panther Posted May 3, 2012 Posted May 3, 2012 what a crap logic. draws are more important than losses. like i said draws win series. and what's with the sudden change in heart. didn't you pakis make the rule - anything outside asia = non ftb and anything inside = flat tracks and use the same to slag sehwag who hit 309 in 'flat' multan where inzy,moyo,younis were bowled two times over by pathan/balaji. :hysterical: we came to your backyard and humiliated you with two innings defeats. i replied to you calling all our batsman ftbs, your point about pak not having any batsman averaging 50+ outside the sc. now onto the next point lets keep the discussion to outside the sc. ok lets remove losses and leave just won matches http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?class=1;filter=advanced;host=1;host=2;host=3;host=4;host=5;orderby=batting_average;qualmin1=500;qualval1=runs;result=1;team=6;team=7;template=results;type=batting
Sehwag1830 Posted May 3, 2012 Posted May 3, 2012 And btw to non-stats obessed Pakiz , can you explain me why Pakistan has won only 2 knock out matches against AU, SA in their entire cricket history http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?class=2;filter=advanced;final_type=1;final_type=2;final_type=3;final_type=4;opposition=2;opposition=3;orderby=won;template=results;type=team What haPPENS TO match winning ability ?
Sehwag1830 Posted May 3, 2012 Posted May 3, 2012 Yes leave draw and losses . We will find that Harbhajan is a better bowler than Akram.
deathmonger Posted May 3, 2012 Posted May 3, 2012 i replied to you calling all our batsman ftbs, your point about pak not having any batsman averaging 50+ outside the sc. now onto the next point lets keep the discussion to outside the sc. ok lets remove losses and leave just won matches http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?class=1;filter=advanced;host=1;host=2;host=3;host=4;host=5;orderby=batting_average;qualmin1=500;qualval1=runs;result=1;team=6;team=7;template=results;type=batting :hysterical::hysterical::hysterical::hysterical: of course people will have better avgs in won matches that's why they won. according to your logic umesh yadav > wasim avgs shouldb be counted in lost and drawn matches as well. else you exclude innings like dravid in eng 2011 , srt perth 90, sunny's innings in indies 71 and eng 71.
panther Posted May 3, 2012 Posted May 3, 2012 Yes leave draw and losses . We will find that Harbhajan is a better bowler than Akram. http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?class=1;filter=advanced;orderby=bowling_average;qualmin1=100;qualval1=wickets;result=1;team=6;team=7;template=results;type=bowling
deathmonger Posted May 3, 2012 Posted May 3, 2012 And btw to non-stats obessed Pakiz , can you explain me why Pakistan has won only 2 knock out matches against AU, SA in their entire cricket history http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?class=2;filter=advanced;final_type=1;final_type=2;final_type=3;final_type=4;opposition=2;opposition=3;orderby=won;template=results;type=team What haPPENS TO match winning ability ? minnow bashers and gone windies way. they are like windies circa 2006. **** but some good players.
panther Posted May 3, 2012 Posted May 3, 2012 :hysterical::hysterical::hysterical::hysterical: of course people will have better avgs in won matches that's why they won. according to your logic umesh yadav > wasim avgs shouldb be counted in lost and drawn matches as well. else you exclude innings like dravid in eng 2011 , srt perth 90, sunny's innings in indies 71 and eng 71. no the point is indian batsman are bigger ftbs than pak batsman as i showed you.
deathmonger Posted May 3, 2012 Posted May 3, 2012 http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?class=1;filter=advanced;orderby=bowling_average;qualmin1=100;qualval1=wickets;result=1;team=6;team=7;template=results;type=bowling http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?class=1;filter=advanced;orderby=bowling_average;result=1;team=6;team=7;template=results;type=bowling here. pk>imran
deathmonger Posted May 3, 2012 Posted May 3, 2012 no the point is indian batsman are bigger ftbs than pak batsman as i showed you. no. they aren't. pakis dont even avg 50+ outside asia. that's why they are ftbs as they can only bat in sc.
panther Posted May 3, 2012 Posted May 3, 2012 http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?class=1;filter=advanced;orderby=bowling_average;result=1;team=6;team=7;template=results;type=bowling here. pk>imran look at my minimum criteria has to be over 100 wickets, your's is any next 1 series wonder
panther Posted May 3, 2012 Posted May 3, 2012 no. they aren't. pakis dont even avg 50+ outside asia. that's why they are ftbs as they can only bat in sc. if you remove drawn matches most matches are drawn due to flat pitches also weather problems. you can see who's the bigger ftbs
Sehwag1830 Posted May 3, 2012 Posted May 3, 2012 no the point is indian batsman are bigger ftbs than pak batsman as i showed you. No the point is Pakistan can't win against AU, SA as i have shown you. And this is why they will never be ranked no.1 which India has done 4 times
Sehwag1830 Posted May 3, 2012 Posted May 3, 2012 look at my minimum criteria has to be over 100 wickets' date=' your is any next 1 series wonder[/quote'] Please remove Bangladesh and Zimbawe and see the result.:hysterical::hysterical:
Sehwag1830 Posted May 3, 2012 Posted May 3, 2012 if you removed drawn matches most matches are drawn due to flat pitches also weather problems. you can see who's the bigger ftbs Weather problems. :hysterical::hysterical:
panther Posted May 3, 2012 Posted May 3, 2012 No the point is Pakistan can't win against AU' date=' SA as i have shown you. And this is why they will never be ranked no.1 which India has done 4 times[/quote'] he made a point about pak batsman being ftbs it turns out indian batsman are even bigger ftbs.
Sehwag1830 Posted May 3, 2012 Posted May 3, 2012 he made a point about pak batsman being ftbs it turns out indian batsman are even bigger ftbs. Yes Indian batsman are ftbs that is why they have drawn series in OZ, SA something Pak has not been able to do in last 14 years. Won a series in WI which Pak have never done.
panther Posted May 3, 2012 Posted May 3, 2012 Please remove Bangladesh and Zimbawe and see the result.:hysterical::hysterical: http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?class=1;filter=advanced;opposition=1;opposition=2;opposition=3;opposition=4;opposition=5;opposition=6;opposition=7;opposition=8;orderby=bowling_average;qualmin1=100;qualval1=wickets;result=1;team=6;team=7;template=results;type=bowling
panther Posted May 3, 2012 Posted May 3, 2012 Yes Indian batsman are ftbs that is why they have drawn series in OZ, SA something Pak has not been able to do in last 14 years. Won a series in WI which Pak have never done. yes that austraila series where the tracks were considerably flat. and the 4 match series finished 1-1 congrats to india that is a excellent achivment. but my point is that indian batsman cash in on flat tracks like no other batsman, you saw what happened when the tracks have something in it for the bowlers.
Sehwag1830 Posted May 3, 2012 Posted May 3, 2012 yes that austraila series where the tracks were considerably flat. and the 4 match series finished 1-1 Similar to Pakiz hyped Imran khan team that drew 1-1 against WI. So much for Imran being the greatest cricketer ever :hysterical::hysterical:
Sehwag1830 Posted May 3, 2012 Posted May 3, 2012 but my point is that indian batsman cash in on flat tracks like no other team batsman, you saw what happened when the tracks have something in it for the bowlers. Yes we saw what happened . India managed to win 4 games on Australia tour while Pak lost every game 9-0. Worst performance by a touring side ever.:haha::haha:
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