goose Posted June 25, 2009 Share Posted June 25, 2009 %2$s West Indies v India at Gros Islet Jul 3 (09:30 local, 13:30 GMT) West Indies v India at Gros Islet Jul 5 (09:30 local, 13:30 GMT) %2$s 29-Jun Ok folks normal service has been resumed. The site is fully loaded ! Last edition's winner SHANE and the usually solid DON SHARMA are suffering ! Meanwhile LORD is, well, lording it. Note with a few days still to go, the player performance markets are suspended until we have further news on probable XI's. Bigshot markets are available although I may decide to review named players. Note performance point rules have changed. 1wkt=20pts now not 10pts. As always, please verify your details in the Player Bet History. 26-Jun 1st One-Day Bet Extravaganza is available for betting ! All markets to be suspended at the toss. (RIP MJ.) 25-Jun Welcome to the West Indies v. India 2009 Spread Betting League ! Series Markets are now open for betting. Hurry before someone else spots betting value before you do. Remember there's every chance markets will move significantly before a single ball is bowled once players place their bets ! 1st One-Day Bet Extravaganza to be released very soon ! %2$s [TABLE=head]BET|MARKET|SETTLE IND/WI SUPREMACY|0-10| TOTAL WIDES|11-13| TOTAL FOURS|34-37| TOTAL SIXES|7.5-9| TOTAL NO-BALLS|2-3.5| TOTAL RUN-OUTS|1.25-2| TOTAL 50-UPS|73-77| TOTAL 100-UPS|3-5| MULTI-WIDES|29-34| MULTI-FOURS|280-310| MULTI-SIXES|14-19| HIGHEST SCORE|82-87| TOTAL RUNS|490-510| IND BIGSHOTS|61-71| WI BIGSHOTS|58-68| ZERO TOLERANCE|21-25| GAMBHIR PERF|35-40| YUVRAJ PERF|58-62| DHONI PERF|53-58| GAYLE PERF|58-62| SARWAN PERF|37-42| BRAVO PERF|70-74| [/TABLE] Max single bet size 100k per pt. Multiple bets on same market allowed once Chief has acknowledged first bet. Multi-wides is the number of wides bowled by India multiplied by number of wides bowled by West Indies. Boundaries scored off the bat only count towards fours and sixes. 50-ups counts the number of runs scored in excess of 50 in a 50 plus innings by a batsman e.g. a score of 67 would contribute 17 to this market. 100-ups operate on same principle. Zero-tolerance rules are 10pts per duck and 25pts per golden duck. 10pts for run-outs without facing a ball. Performance rules - run=1pt, wicket=20pts, catch=10pts, stumping=25pts. Bigshots is a prediction on the number of sixes hit by three named players with 25pts per six awarded. All three players must be named in starting XI for bet to stand. Named players are Gayle, Bravo, Morton and Gambhir, Yuvraj, Dhoni. %2$s [TABLE=head]BET|MARKET|CURRENT|ALLOCATION TOTAL RUNS|2030-2060|1038 (2)|475 TOTAL WIDES|70-75|45 (2)|11 TOTAL FOURS|121-127|69 (2)|36 TOTAL SIXES|52-57|30 (2)|3.5 TOTAL NO-BALLS|11-14|6 (2)|3 TOTAL RUN-OUTS|5-6.5|2 (2)|1.5 TOTAL 50-UPS|345-360|205 (2)|70 TOTAL 100-UPS|39-45|31 (2)|3 TOTAL 300-UPS|45-50|39 (2)|2 TOTAL ZERO-TOLERANCE|95-103|55 (2)|20 WEST INDIES/INDIA NET SUPREMACY|35-50|60 (2)|- HIGHEST TEAM INNINGS|340-344|339 (2)|- LOWEST TEAM INNINGS|185-187|188 (2)|- HIGHEST INDIVIDUAL SCORE|132-135|131 (2)|- [/TABLE] Max single bet size 100k per pt. Multiple bets on same market allowed once Chief has acknowledged first bet. Allocations refers to points awarded in case a match is abandoned or no official result is recorded for an individual match. Lowest team innings refers to all-out scores or failed chases only. Boundaries scored off the bat only count towards fours and sixes. 50-ups counts the number of runs scored in excess of 50 in a 50 plus innings by a batsman e.g. a score of 67 would contribute 17 to this market. 100-ups operate on same principle. 300-ups refer to team totals. Zero-tolerance rules are 10pts per duck and 25pts per golden duck. 10pts for run-outs without facing a ball. %2$s [TABLE=head]RANK|PLAYER|$ ICF 1|GOOSE|43,965,000 2|LORD|6,010,000 3|MAX CADY|5,000 4|DINAKKAR|-250,000 5|THE OUTSIDER|-2,540,000 6|H4TE|-4,200,000 7|SUNNYJI_2K|-7,760,000 8|DON SHARMA|-8,430,000 9|SHANE|-26,800,000 [/TABLE] %2$s GOOSE - CHIEF TAKES OTHER SIDES OF ALL BETS PLACED BY OTHER PLAYERS. SUNNYJI_2K BUY SERIES LOWEST TEAM SCORE @179 (25K) - FREE BET BUY SERIES SUPREMACY IND/WI @35 (100K) BUY 1ST MATCH IND/WI SUPREMACY @12 (100K) (SETTLED @20 / $800,000 PROFIT) BUY 1ST MATCH DHONI PERF @55 (25K) (SETTLED @51 / $100,000 LOSS) SELL 1ST MATCH SARWAN PERF @40 (10K) (SETTLED @45 / $50,000 LOSS) BUY 1ST MATCH BRAVO PERF @51 (20K) (SETTLED @48 / $60,000 LOSS) BUY 1ST MATCH RUN-OUTS @2 (100K) (SETTLED @2 / $0 PROFIT) THE OUTSIDER BUY 1ST MATCH IND/WI SUPREMACY @12 (10K) (SETTLED @20 / $80,000 PROFIT ) BUY 1ST MATCH WIDES @12 (25K) (SETTLED @29 / $425,000 PROFIT) BUY 1ST MATCH RUN-OUTS @2 (100K) (SETTLED @2 / $0 PROFIT) SELL 1ST MATCH MULTI-WIDES @33 (25K) - FREE BET (SETTLED @190 - VOID) SELL 1ST MATCH MULTI-SIXES @11 (10K) (SETTLED @126 / $1,150,000 LOSS) BUY 1ST MATCH ZERO-TOLERANCE @25 (10K) (SETTLED @25 / $0 PROFIT) SELL 1ST MATCH GAMBHIR PERF @42 (10K) (SETTLED @13 / $290,000 PROFIT) SELL 1ST MATCH GAYLE PERF @56 (10K) (SETTLED @37 / $190,000 PROFIT) SELL SERIES TOTAL RUNS @1950 (10K) SELL SERIES SIXES @20 (25K) SELL SERIES IND/WI SUPREMACY @5 (25K) SELL SERIES HIGH TEAM TOTAL @318 (25K) SELL SERIES LOW TEAM TOTAL @172 (50K) H4TE BUY SERIES SIXES @18 (100K) SELL SERIES SUPREMACY IND/WI @10 (100K) SELL SERIES HIGHEST BATSMAN SCORE @115 (100K) SELL SERIES LOWEST TEAM SCORE @173 (100K) SELL SERIES TOTAL RUNS @1975 (100K) MAX_CADY BUY SERIES TOTAL RUNS @2025 (1K) DON SHARMA SELL 1ST MATCH MULTI-SIXES @31 (70K) (SETTLED @126 / $6,650,000 LOSS) BUY 1ST MATCH YUVRAJ PERF @51 (25K) (SETTLED @131 / $2,000,000 PROFIT) BUY 1ST MATCH DHONI PERF @53 (20K) (SETTLED @51 / $40,000 LOSS) BUY 1ST MATCH BRAVO PERF @49 (35K) (SETTLED @48 / $35,000 LOSS) BUY 1ST MATCH GAYLE PERF @59 (10K) (SETTLED @37 / $220,000 LOSS) SELL SERIES TOTAL RUNS @1950 (50K) SELL SERIES NO-BALLS @23 (35K) SELL 2ND MATCH NO-BALLS @5 (100K) (SETTLED @1 / $400,000 PROFIT) BUY 2ND MATCH IND BIGSHOTS @74 (5K) (SETTLED @75 / $5,000 PROFIT) BUY 2ND MATCH WI BIGSHOTS @66 (5K) (SETTLED @50 / $80,000 LOSS) BUY 2ND MATCH DHONI PERF @53 (20K) (SETTLED @120 / $1,340,000 PROFIT) BUY 2ND MATCH GAYLE PERF @58 (15K) (SETTLED @84 / $390,000 PROFIT) BUY 2ND MATCH BRAVO PERF @62 (10K) (SETTLED @30 / $320,000 LOSS) SHANE SELL SERIES TOTAL RUNS @1950 (100K) SELL 1ST MATCH TOTAL RUNS @500 (100K) (SETTLED @658 / $15,800,000 LOSS) FREE 100K BET PENDING LORD BUY 1ST MATCH INDIA BIGSHOTS @60 (60K) (SETTLED @200 / $8,400,000 PROFIT) SELL SERIES HIGH TEAM SCORE @318 (80K) SELL SERIES NO-BALLS @23 (100K) BUY 2ND MATCH DHONI PERF @53 (80K) (SETTLED @120 / $5,360,000 PROFIT) BUY 2ND MATCH IND BIGSHOTS @74 (80K) (SETTLED @75 / $80,000 PROFIT) BUY 2ND MATCH MULTI-SIXES @32 (90K) (SETTLED @12 / $1,800,000 LOSS) BUY 2ND MATCH IND/WI SUPREMACY @15 (50K) (SETTLED @-80 / $4,750,000 LOSS) DINAKKAR BUY 1ST MATCH HIGH SCORE @83 (10K) (SETTLED @131 / $480,000 PROFIT) SELL 1ST MATCH GAYLE PERF @56 (10K) (SETTLED @37 / $190,000 PROFIT) BUY 1ST MATCH YUVRAJ PERF @53 (10K) (SETTLED @131 / $780,000 PROFIT) BUY 1ST MATCH BRAVO PERF @51 (10K) (SETTLED @48 / $30,000 LOSS) SELL 1ST MATCH WI BIGSHOTS @55 (10K) (SETTLED @50 / $50,000 PROFIT) BUY 1ST MATCH SARWAN PERF @45 (10K) (SETTLED @45 / $0 PROFIT) SELL 1ST MATCH ZERO-TOLERANCE @21 (10K) (SETTLED @25 / $40,000 LOSS) SELL 1ST MATCH SIXES @6 (50K) (SETTLED @23 / $850,000 LOSS) SELL SERIES HIGH SCORE @318 (10K) SELL 2ND MATCH ZERO-TOLERANCE @21 (10K) (SETTLED @30 / $90,000 LOSS) BUY 2ND MATCH WI BIGSHOTS @66 (10K) (SETTLED @50 / $160,000 LOSS) BUY 2ND MATCH IND BIGSHOTS @74 (10K) (SETTLED @75 / $10,000 PROFIT) SELL 2ND MATCH BRAVO PERF @57 (10K) (SETTLED @30 / $270,000 PROFIT) BUY 2ND MATCH SARWAN PERF @45 (10K) (SETTLED @15 / $300,000 LOSS) BUY 2ND MATCH GAYLE PERF @58 (10K) (SETTLED @84 / $260,000 PROFIT) BUY 2ND MATCH YUVRAJ PEFF @ 55 (10K) (SETTLED @35 / $200,000 LOSS) BUY 2ND MATCH GAMBHIR PERF @45 (10K) (SETTLED @10 / $350,000 LOSS) SELL 2ND MATCH WIDES @17 (10K) (SETTLED @16 / $10,000 PROFIT) BUY 2ND MATCH RUN-OUTS @2 (10K) (SETTLED@0 / $20,000 LOSS) GRAPHIC23 FREE 25K BET PENDING %2$s 1) The BLUE markets are my current two-way prices I am prepared to trade with you. Think my markets are too low then you BUY or if you think they are too high then you SELL. The RED numbers tell you how points are awarded for certain bets such as the Win Index. Example - on the Win Index you think India will finish as runner-up or higher then go ahead and buy India from me at 31 and if they make the finals you've won 9 pts (40 minus 31) or even better 29 pts if they win the whole thing (60 minus 31 pts). However, if they only make the Super 8 phase you lose 21 pts (10 minus 31) etc. 2) Here's the bit that makes this betting format exciting. Assume you bought at 31 and after that India go on a bit of a winning run and make the finals and I move their price to 51-54. You are able to lock in your profits by selling at 51 (thus making 20pts) or you could just run the bet to the end of WC of course risking that they lose and end up with just the 40 points. Make sense? You can buy and sell at any time, close out old bets, initiate new ones - the choices are endless. 3) When you trade specify how many $ you want to bet per point - maximum bet size is $100k and minimum bet size is $1k but check each market for exceptions e.g Win Index this time has max bet size of $150k per point. 4) All bets will be valued at the end of each day based on the prevailing prices - just like a share trading account. This way you always know exactly how much p/l you'd be left with if you closed out all your trades by buying and selling at the current prices. 5) The player that makes the most $ wins this league and all profit and loss to be added to your ICF account at end of the WC. 6) As market-maker I take other side of every bet placed. 7) Markets will be suspended during games and updated for fresh betting end of each day and remain open until before the start of next game the following day. 8) Betting to be suspended 30 minutes before toss of next match. Leave your bets here and trades will be accepted/rejected basis your time-stamp. All make sense? Don't fret, pick a side, have a think about whether I have undervalued it, or overvalued it and place your bets specifying your stake. EXAMPLE 'GOOSE - I WOULD LIKE TO BUY INDIA AT 30 PLS IN $5k PER PT'. OR 'GOOSE - I WOULD LIKE TO SELL PAKISTAN AT 20 PLS IN $3k PER PT'. %2$s Why are there two numbers next to each betting market? The two numbers represent my two way price. You buy at the higher price and you can sell at the lower price. Sounds unfair? That's my perogative as tournament chief. I have to make money somehow whilst I'm taking the other side of your trades/bets. Think about buying and selling anything in life - e.g you tend to have to buy a car a bit higher then where you could sell to a dealer. In theory I have made the perfect price in India at 28-31 and I attract punters willing to sell at 28 and punters willing to buy at 31 leaving me with a handsome 3pt profit in the middle without taking any risk...that's the idea. Of course my prices are only my opinions and it's your job to identify opportunities to buy and sell. How can I sell if I have not bought it yet? You can buy or sell at any time - not a problem. If you felt Pakistan was a sure fire bet to not make it out of their group you could sell at 20 and collect 20pts (20 minus 0). That's the beauty of this format. Want to back a team and think I've UNDERPRICED them? Then you BUY. Want to bet against a team and think I've OVERPRICED them? Then you SELL. How does the Supremacy bet work? The Supremacy bet is quoted to cover both a result that's measured in terms of wkts and in terms of runs. The rules to remember are 1 RUN=1PT and 1 WKT=10PTS. So take Match 41 where I quoted 11-16. Along comes the toss and BRC field first, you know at that stage they will either win by wkts or lose by runs. If they win by 5 wickets the market settles at +50. If they lose by 35 runs the market settles at -35. Remember these markets are suspended before the toss occurs. Can we bet with fellow posters - or do we have to deal with just you? That is not currently allowed. If and when we get a critical mass of players with a good grasp of the spreadbet concept, peer-to-peer betting is something I might well explore. In the meantime, my spreads will be attractive e.g Win Index spreads will narrow as we progress through the games and also as we get more players on board. What's the point in selling Holland @ 1 - just to make 1 point? ? Some would say it's easy money. The fact that's there's still 1 point to be made indicates Holland have a very slim chance of making it to the Super 8. If they do qualify and get knocked out in the Super 8 they 'settle' at 10 precisely and the bet profit & loss gets marked off 10. Until a market settles, all bets are marked on the opposing side of the market i.e. sales are marked at the higher price and vice versa. What's the Bet Extravaganza - how do I play? This is a bunch of betting markets I offer on each and every game. Example - how many wides you think there will be in this match? My market is 9-11. Think there's going to be more than 11? Just go ahead and buy 11 and state your size in $k per wide. If total wides comes in at 15 you make (15 minus 11) times your stake per wide. Of course you can sell at 9, and same principles apply. You would lose (9 minus 15 ) times your stake per wide. Same concept as Win Index. So go ahead and bet on wides, run-outs, fours, sixes, etc for the next game. Example - GOOSE I WANT TO BUY WIDES AT 11 IN $25K PER WIDE. I sold Bangalore at 37 so why I have I lost money? Based on latest markets you are down -$185,000. Here's why. You sold RCB at 37 in $25k per point. To close that trade you'd have to buy at current price 46 so your profit and loss is (37 minus 46) times 25k = -$225k. You sold KPXI at 49 in $40k per point. To close that trade you'd have to buy at current price of 48 so your profit and loss is (49 minus 48) times 40k = +$40k. Add these two together and you have -$185k. -185k is just a measure of where you are valued right now given current markets - you haven't necessarily lost that money yet. Example - if you sold Satyam shares because you thought they were going bust but the next day the share price actually went up your stockbroker would send you a statement saying you were down right? But your trades are still open and Satyam might still go bust and you could still clean up. Or you could lose your bottle and buy them back higher and guarantee a small loss. If RCB and KPXI don't make the semis they will settle at 25 each and you'll make money. In the meantime the markets have moved against you but they are only MY markets and I might have them wrong. So if you are convinced RCB are not making the semis then go ahead and sell some more at 42! Do I have to place a new bet every day - are previous bets void? What if I want to change a bet? Your bets are not void, they stand forever, but of course you can place new bets in the opposite direction to close the bet and naturally that may well have to be at a different price. Try this - imagine you're trading shares - 8 different shares. You don't like the Mumbai share price so you sell Mumbai shares at 47. Then Mumbai loses to Deccan, Mumbai shares fall to 44, so you make money. You can buy back at 44 to realize that money, or you can hope they keep falling, or you can even add and sell some more at 44! Hope that makes sense - remember you're trading shares. I set the rules and the markets. The cricket matches provide the economic data ! Look at Lord's bet history. He sold DC in 15k per pt, then watched them win and decided to buy them at $30k per pt albeit at higher price. He is now net long $15k DC shares after cutting his losses and turning his bet strategy right round. The $/pt is confusing ! Ok first forget all concept of $. I have assigned points to each final ranking in the WC. e.g losing semi-finalist gets 20pts. Call it points, call it widgets, call it elephants or anything you like. I then set two-way markets in those points (or widgets). You can decide to buy or sell any team at any time based on the market I am quoting at that time. You can even have multiple bets open. Now, to make it more interesting, you can specify a stake i.e. how may $ per point (or widget). You trade on a two-way points market in a $ stake per point of your choice. Your running score will be stated in $. Where do you get your odds/markets from? I make them up. Just like you, I read the game, follow the points table, monitor injuries, and set my prices accordingly. One needs a firm grasp of cricket and probabilities. I can get it wrong though. Of course I'll skew my prices if I start to accumulate large positions on one team e.g. I almost certainly underpriced Bangalore at 33-37 and Shane was quick to exploit that by trading $75k per point at 37. I've moved Bangalore a lot higher now :-| The tournament started a few days ago - is it too late to play? You can join in at any time ! In theory you could place one single bet on the last day and win the league. %2$s 2ND ONE-DAY BET EXTRAVAGANZA ! [TABLE=head]BET|MARKET|SETTLE IND/WI SUPREMACY|5-15|-80 TOTAL WIDES|17-18.5|16 TOTAL FOURS|37-40|27 TOTAL SIXES|8.75-9.25|7 TOTAL NO-BALLS|5-8|1 TOTAL RUN-OUTS|1.25-2|0 TOTAL 50-UPS|73-80|94 TOTAL 100-UPS|8-11|0 MULTI-WIDES|77-84|48 MULTI-FOURS|345-390|182 MULTI-SIXES|23-32|12 HIGHEST SCORE|83-95|95 TOTAL RUNS|510-540|380 IND BIGSHOTS|66-74|75 WI BIGSHOTS|58-66|50 ZERO TOLERANCE|21-25|30 GAMBHIR PERF|40-45|10 YUVRAJ PERF|50-55|35 DHONI PERF|48-53|120 GAYLE PERF|53-58|84 SARWAN PERF|40-45|15 BRAVO PERF|57-62|30 [/TABLE] Named players are Gayle, Bravo, Sarwan and Dhoni, Yuvraj, Pathan. 1ST ONE-DAY BET EXTRAVAGANZA ! [TABLE=head]BET|MARKET|SETTLE IND/WI SUPREMACY|2-12|20 TOTAL WIDES|10-12|29 TOTAL FOURS|36-39|42 TOTAL SIXES|6-8|23 TOTAL NO-BALLS|3-5|5 TOTAL RUN-OUTS|1.25-2|2 TOTAL 50-UPS|65-73|111 TOTAL 100-UPS|3-6|31 MULTI-WIDES|33-41|190 MULTI-FOURS|300-330|440 MULTI-SIXES|11-16|126 HIGHEST SCORE|78-83|131 TOTAL RUNS|490-510|658 IND BIGSHOTS|50-60|200 WI BIGSHOTS|55-65|50 ZERO TOLERANCE|21-25|25 GAMBHIR PERF|42-47|13 YUVRAJ PERF|48-53|131 DHONI PERF|50-55|51 GAYLE PERF|56-61|37 SARWAN PERF|40-45|45 BRAVO PERF|46-51|48 [/TABLE] Named players are Gayle, Bravo, Morton and Gambhir, Yuvraj, R. Sharma. Link to comment
Malcolm Merlyn Posted June 25, 2009 Share Posted June 25, 2009 buy india at 10@100k sell westindies@40@100k cn you explain to me the highest total and the highest run score thing....what if i sell the lowest score at 179...and the lowest score by team is 250? Link to comment
goose Posted June 25, 2009 Author Share Posted June 25, 2009 Hi Sunnyji_2k ! Thanks for kicking things off around here - you have won a free 25k bet. I have to walk away for a little while - I'm sure someone here will explain thoroughly. That someone will win a free 25k bet. Link to comment
The Outsider Posted June 25, 2009 Share Posted June 25, 2009 buy india at 10@100k sell westindies@40@100k cn you explain to me the highest total and the highest run score thing....what if i sell the lowest score at 179...and the lowest score by team is 250? Sunny, INDIA/WEST INDIES NET SUPREMACY 10-40 means over the course of the 4 ODIs the net difference between India's points and WI points, where 1 run = 1 point and 1 wicket = 10 points. So for example, India wins first ODI by 25 runs India loses 2nd ODI by 3 wickets India wins 3rd ODI by 8 wickets India loses 4th ODI by 40 runs The supremacy count will be 25 -(3*10) + (8*10) - 40 = 35. The market currently is 10-40, so you sell at 10 or buy at 40. If you had sold at 10 and the above result happens you will lose (35-10)*your bid amount per point If you had bought at 10 and the above result happens you would win (40-35)*your bid amount per point. Highest/lowest score is the highest lowest score over an innings by an individual team. Lowest market is at 171-179 right now so you can sell @171 or buy @179. If over the course of 8 innings the lowest score is 250, a) You had sold at 171, your loss would be (250-171)*your bid amount per point b) You had bought at 179, your profit would be (250-179*your bid amount per point. Link to comment
Malcolm Merlyn Posted June 25, 2009 Share Posted June 25, 2009 Sunny, INDIA/WEST INDIES NET SUPREMACY 10-40 means over the course of the 4 ODIs the net difference between India's points and WI points, where 1 run = 1 point and 1 wicket = 10 points. So for example, India wins first ODI by 25 runs India loses 2nd ODI by 3 wickets India wins 3rd ODI by 8 wickets India loses 4th ODI by 40 runs The supremacy count will be 25 -(3*10) + (8*10) - 40 = 35. The market currently is 10-40, so you sell at 10 or buy at 40. If you had sold at 10 and the above result happens you will lose (35-10)*your bid amount per point If you had bought at 10 and the above result happens you would win (40-35)*your bid amount per point. Highest/lowest score is the highest lowest score over an innings by an individual team. Lowest market is at 171-179 right now so you can sell @171 or buy @179. If over the course of 8 innings the lowest score is 250, a) You had sold at 171, your loss would be (250-171)*your bid amount per point b) You had bought at 179, your profit would be (250-179*your bid amount per point. thnx outsider...you have been very helpful since i joined icf goosey my 25k free bet on buy lowest score at 179...... Link to comment
goose Posted June 25, 2009 Author Share Posted June 25, 2009 Your bet has been recorded. Pls check Player Bet History scrollbox for your details. Note that particular market you bet on has moved up to 173-181. Naturally I want to attract sellers at 173 now that I have sold at 179 leaving me with 6pts risk-free profit. That's the idea anyway. Outsider, apologies for messing your example up ! You have a free 25k bet pending. Link to comment
Malcolm Merlyn Posted June 25, 2009 Share Posted June 25, 2009 buy india at 10@100k sell westindies@40@100k does my this bet stand goose? i mean i understand yo want us to sell at 10 and buy at 40...but does that prevents us from doing the opposite? Link to comment
goose Posted June 25, 2009 Author Share Posted June 25, 2009 buy india at 10@100k sell westindies@40@100k does my this bet stand goose? i mean i understand yo want us to sell at 10 and buy at 40...but does that prevents us from doing the opposite? It absolutely prevents you ! Read Outsider's example again. Failing that read the FAQ scrollbox - it's all there. For every betting market you will see two numbers, the higher one on the right, and the lower one on the left. You the player, must buy on the right, and sell on the left. Nothing done yet... Link to comment
Malcolm Merlyn Posted June 25, 2009 Share Posted June 25, 2009 one last question goose befroe i place the bet....can i buy or sell at any number between 10 and 40 or is that they are the absolute nos to bet so it is like if i hv to buy india it has to be at 40 and if i have sell west indies it has to be at 10....am i geting it rite now Link to comment
goose Posted June 25, 2009 Author Share Posted June 25, 2009 one last question goose befroe i place the bet....can i buy or sell at any number between 10 and 40 or is that they are the absolute nos to bet so it is like if i hv to buy india it has to be at 40 and if i have sell west indies it has to be at 10....am i geting it rite now Ask as many as you wish. Nothing in between - that's my firm 2-way market. You want to buy you have to trade on the right. You want to sell, you have to trade on the left. Yes i think you have it now... Link to comment
h4te Posted June 25, 2009 Share Posted June 25, 2009 :hello: i can still play if i am in the negative? :hehe: Buy TOTAL SIXES @ 18 for 100k per point SELL IND over WI Supermacy @ 10 for 100k per point SELL Highest Individual Score @ 115 for 100k per point SELL Lowest Team Innings @ 173 for 100k per point SELL TOTAL RUNS @ 1975 @ 100k per point :nervous::nervous: in b4 -infinity & ban Link to comment
Malcolm Merlyn Posted June 25, 2009 Share Posted June 25, 2009 so if i sell west indies at 10 and they loose the series and end up being at 0 or minus then i pocket the differenc if i buy india at 40 they win the series but as in outsiders eg their points is 35 i still lose at 5 points....even if have bet on the winning team Link to comment
goose Posted June 25, 2009 Author Share Posted June 25, 2009 :hello: i can still play if i am in the negative? :hehe: Buy TOTAL SIXES @ 18 for 100k per point SELL IND over WI Supermacy @ 10 for 100k per point SELL Highest Individual Score @ 115 for 100k per point SELL Lowest Team Innings @ 173 for 100k per point SELL TOTAL RUNS @ 1975 @ 100k per point :nervous::nervous: in b4 -infinity & ban Done ! Link to comment
goose Posted June 25, 2009 Author Share Posted June 25, 2009 so if i sell west indies at 10 and they loose the series and end up being at 0 or minus then i pocket the differenc if i buy india at 40 they win the series but as in outsiders eg their points is 35 i still lose at 5 points....even if have bet on the winning team Yes that is correct. You could buy India at 40 but if the one game India lose is by a massive margin, things could get interesting as you point out. Link to comment
Max_Cady Posted June 25, 2009 Share Posted June 25, 2009 buy total runs @ 1975 for 1k per point Link to comment
goose Posted June 25, 2009 Author Share Posted June 25, 2009 buy total runs @ 1975 for 1k per point You have to BUY at the HIGHER price - that is currently 2025 Nothng done yet... Link to comment
Malcolm Merlyn Posted June 25, 2009 Share Posted June 25, 2009 sell west indies @5 @25000 buy india @35@100000 Link to comment
Max_Cady Posted June 25, 2009 Share Posted June 25, 2009 ok, i buy the total runs @ 2025 for 1k per point Link to comment
Malcolm Merlyn Posted June 25, 2009 Share Posted June 25, 2009 when is the bet extravaganza coming up goose? Link to comment
The Outsider Posted June 25, 2009 Share Posted June 25, 2009 sell west indies @5 @25000 buy india @35@100000 That's a strange bet. Normally you should either buy or sell for a given market. What you are doing here is essentially buying a bar of soap for 35 and selling it for 5. Link to comment
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