cricketman Posted January 10, 2010 Posted January 10, 2010 Showing good form off late. Played good finishing roles in the middle order @ home and now plays a blazing innings opening. Any chances of a comeback? Pretty good fielder too, and can offer that WK option if Dhoni wants a rest.
Show_stopper Posted January 10, 2010 Posted January 10, 2010 Nope no chance at all. Really unfortunate. No disrespect to karthick but I think people already have a headache with Kohli situation to bother about trying to fit in karthick on the basis of couple of 40's.
Guest Hiten. Posted January 10, 2010 Posted January 10, 2010 MSD should take a rest for tomorrow's dead rubber and let KKD take up the glovework.
cricketman Posted January 10, 2010 Author Posted January 10, 2010 Nope no chance at all. Really unfortunate. No disrespect to karthick but I think people already have a headache with Kohli situation to bother about trying to fit in karthick on the basis of couple of 40's. TBh i haven't seen Raina really do much more than a couple of 40s :p
jusarrived Posted January 10, 2010 Posted January 10, 2010 TBh i haven't seen Raina really do much more than a couple of 40s :p raina >>>> DK
Indus_Army Posted January 10, 2010 Posted January 10, 2010 It was a good effort again by DK and gives the team depth/cover in case of injuries or loss of form. At this rate, you can switch back to your "Karthik is God" punchline soon :winky: j/k @B_B The idea of MSD resting tomorrow is a good one. It would also be nice to see Viru or GG's captaincy.
Show_stopper Posted January 10, 2010 Posted January 10, 2010 TBh i haven't seen Raina really do much more than a couple of 40s :p Nope strictly speaking you aren't being honest.:winky: Here is the list of Raina's scores from CT onwards: 41 v/s Pak(I'm sure everybody remembers what a good innings that was!! Pressure doesn't get much higher than that match situation) DNB v/s Aus DNB v/s WI 9 v/s Aus 62 v/s Aus(Mohali game which we won) 9* v/s Aus 17 v/s Aus 59 v/s Aus( HYD game..again high pressure innings) 0 v/s Aus 16 v/s SL 68 v/s SL DNB v/s SL DNB v/s SL 35 v/s SL 51* v/s Ban DNB v/s SL (today) So thats, 2 50's out of 5(effectively 4 because of the 9 n.o inning) games against Aussie attack with one, and superb 41 against a PAk attack, a 68 and a 35 against out of 3 games v/s SL. I'm sorry I would take somebody like that over a guy who has scored: 34 v/s WI (CT) 32* v/s SL (game was decided long before he came in) 19* v/s SL (same as above) 48 v/s SL (today..nott he most convincing innings you'll ever see though..was chancing his arm way too much). Not to belittle his efforts or anything but compared to Raina he has been getting 'cheap' (for want of a better term) runs against essentially mediocre attacks. Yeah hes not done nearly enough to get back in..afterall this is the Indian batting line-up we're talking about,not Pakistani. We got certain standards to maintain. There is also the fact that Kohli has done better than him in all the innings that hes played in.
S.Bond Posted January 10, 2010 Posted January 10, 2010 Nope no chance at all. Really unfortunate. No disrespect to karthick but I think people already have a headache with Kohli situation to bother about trying to fit in karthick on the basis of couple of 40's. No headache with kholi... Raina will become a spicialist fielder when tendulkar will be back... Khloi>>>>>>Raina...
vvvslaxman Posted January 10, 2010 Posted January 10, 2010 Nohit should be tried tomorrow. If they can rest Dhoni they can get Rohit in.
Macj Posted January 11, 2010 Posted January 11, 2010 Not a fan of Karthik, this guy is the reason we didnt beat Pak 2-0 .
Anakin Posted January 11, 2010 Posted January 11, 2010 Not good enough. Besides his keeping is not all that great either.
kooljatt Posted January 11, 2010 Posted January 11, 2010 dnt diss a talent like Raina by comaring him to karthick
Desi Cartman Posted January 11, 2010 Posted January 11, 2010 dnt diss a talent like Raina by comaring him to karthick may KKD can replace UV :dontknow: Just a suggestion :cantstop:
kooljatt Posted January 11, 2010 Posted January 11, 2010 may KKD can replace UV :dontknow: Just a suggestion :cantstop: :haha: definitely , after all Karthick is another god and Yuvi is jst a mere Sixer Kinng :((
satishg Posted January 11, 2010 Posted January 11, 2010 he is not an exciting talent, he is a plucky guy but i dont think he can come and replace anyone in our squad right now. Not the first choice in our squad but good back up.
champ Posted January 11, 2010 Posted January 11, 2010 Nope strictly speaking you aren't being honest.:winky: Here is the list of Raina's scores from CT onwards: 41 v/s Pak(I'm sure everybody remembers what a good innings that was!! Pressure doesn't get much higher than that match situation) DNB v/s Aus DNB v/s WI 9 v/s Aus 62 v/s Aus(Mohali game which we won) 9* v/s Aus 17 v/s Aus 59 v/s Aus( HYD game..again high pressure innings) 0 v/s Aus 16 v/s SL 68 v/s SL DNB v/s SL DNB v/s SL 35 v/s SL 51* v/s Ban DNB v/s SL (today) So thats, 2 50's out of 5(effectively 4 because of the 9 n.o inning) games against Aussie attack with one, and superb 41 against a PAk attack, a 68 and a 35 against out of 3 games v/s SL. I'm sorry I would take somebody like that over a guy who has scored: 34 v/s WI (CT) 32* v/s SL (game was decided long before he came in) 19* v/s SL (same as above) 48 v/s SL (today..nott he most convincing innings you'll ever see though..was chancing his arm way too much). Not to belittle his efforts or anything but compared to Raina he has been getting 'cheap' (for want of a better term) runs against essentially mediocre attacks. Yeah hes not done nearly enough to get back in..afterall this is the Indian batting line-up we're talking about,not Pakistani. We got certain standards to maintain. There is also the fact that Kohli has done better than him in all the innings that hes played in. raina has still not matured to play big iinnings or atleast when the top order has failed .. one example was match against AUS in guhawati .. DK can relied upon to build a innings .. only thing raina is ahead in hitting dept .. fielding wise both are equal again ..
PotterManiac Posted January 11, 2010 Posted January 11, 2010 I think DK is a good player, but the competition is too high in the batting department, especially the top order, where there is absolutely no place unless somebody gets injured. The middle order strength cant be well determined because recent matches, the top order has mostly finished the job for India. Again no complaints there, :winky:
saneindian Posted January 11, 2010 Posted January 11, 2010 MSD will always prefer to have DK in his 15 because : 1. DK can bat anywhere, top order, middle order, lower order and produce good scores 2. Minus the gloves , he is a good fielder 3. Gives an option for MSD to take rest in incosequential matches during a series
Zap_Brannigan Posted January 11, 2010 Posted January 11, 2010 MSD will always prefer to have DK in his 15 because : 1. DK can bat anywhere, top order, middle order, lower order and produce good scores 2. Minus the gloves , he is a good fielder 3. Gives an option for MSD to take rest in incosequential matches during a series 1. DK can bat no where. So far he has been crap in all positions. Either his average is low or his SR is. 2. He is an ok fielder at best. All the other non-bowling younger guys are better fielders. 3. Sure, as a wicket-keeper batsman, DK should be Dhoni's understudy, but never should he replace a batsman in the side.
Zap_Brannigan Posted January 11, 2010 Posted January 11, 2010 raina has still not matured to play big iinnings or atleast when the top order has failed .. one example was match against AUS in guhawati .. DK can relied upon to build a innings .. only thing raina is ahead in hitting dept .. fielding wise both are equal again .. Dk cannot do anything. 1 out of the ordinary game is not an example. Its an exception. Raina is averaging 40 with a SR of 90 in the last 2 years. For someone coming in at 5 or 6, Raina has been very good. DK meanwhile, nudges a 30 or 40 now and then. He generally fails in all situations.
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