Gunner_Mania Posted September 9, 2010 Posted September 9, 2010 US President Barack Obama says plans by a small church to burn copies of the Koran on the anniversary of 9/11 are a "recruitment bonanza" for al-Qaeda Mr Obama said if the burning went ahead in Gainesville, Florida, it could endanger US military personnel serving in Pakistan and Afghanistan. The plan has drawn widespread international condemnation. Interpol has issued a global alert, warning the burning could provoke "violent attacks on innocent people". The US State Department has advised American citizens abroad to be on the alert for possible attacks and to avoid areas where demonstrations might take place. Terry Jones, the pastor behind the threat, leads a congregation of 50 followers in the city of Gainesville. He has said the burning would be a way to stand up to terrorism. In an interview with ABC television, Mr Obama said he hoped Mr Jones "understands that what he's proposing to do is completely contrary to our values as Americans, that this country has been built on the notion of freedom and religious tolerance". "And as a very practical matter, I just want him to understand that this stunt that he is talking about pulling could greatly endanger our young men and women who are in uniform," the president said. "Look, this is a recruitment bonanza for al-Qaeda. You could have serious violence in places like Pakistan and Afghanistan. This could increase the recruitment of individuals who'd be willing to blow themselves up in American cities, or European cities," he said. "I hope he listens to those better angels and understands that this is a destructive act that he's engaging in," the president said. Later on Thursday, US officials said they was considering contacting Mr Jones directly to urge him to reconsider his plans. Mr Jones had told USA Today he could potentially cancel his plans if officials spoke to him directly. Defence Secretary Robert Gates was considering "taking this unusual measure of calling this pastor and trying to convince him that it is not the right thing to proceed with," said Pentagon press secretary Geoff Morrell. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-11243711 This is just fanning the flames.
punjabi_khota Posted September 9, 2010 Posted September 9, 2010 avval *******s from that church enjoying their 15 minutes of 'fame'
yoda Posted September 9, 2010 Posted September 9, 2010 what's wrong? he is just burning his personal copy of some stupid bookof science mode on>
The Outsider Posted September 9, 2010 Posted September 9, 2010 what's wrong? he is just burning his personal copy of some stupid bookof science mode on> Would be true in an ideal world not crawling with brainwashed religious tools, but we have to be careful about hurting your precious sentiments. Of course, brainwashed religious tools can burn any science book they feel like because hey its just some misunderstanding. :hysterical:
kumble_rocks Posted September 9, 2010 Posted September 9, 2010 Much ado about nothing , I say ! So what's the big deal if somebody wants to burn a book ! I could care less if somebody burnt geeta. Certain rights enjoyed in a democracy is non negotiable and in-alienable , and freedom of speech and expression is one such right. If nuts in Islamic country want to riot for this , so be it. They deserve to die ! And quite frankly , Obama should refrain from commenting. He will be fanning more flames to the notion by some right wingers that he is a muslim.
Gunner_Mania Posted September 9, 2010 Author Posted September 9, 2010 avval *******s from that church enjoying their 15 minutes of 'fame' If it just turns out to be hot air, they would have enjoyed their 15 minutes of fame, but if it goes beyond hot air, it will go beyond their 15 minutes of fame ruining people lives - those people who haven't even heard of this town or its church.
yoda Posted September 9, 2010 Posted September 9, 2010 Would be true in an ideal world not crawling with brainwashed religious tools, but we have to be careful about hurting your precious sentiments. Of course, brainwashed religious tools can burn any science book they feel like because hey its just some misunderstanding. :hysterical: good news for you. we aren't as intolerant as the defenders of science. :bow:
The Outsider Posted September 9, 2010 Posted September 9, 2010 good news for you. we aren't as intolerant as the defenders of science. :bow: Yeah, the past and present world is such a glaring prototype of tolerance shown by religious tools! :winky:
yoda Posted September 9, 2010 Posted September 9, 2010 Yeah' date=' the past and present world is such a glaring prototype of tolerance shown by religious tools! :winky:[/quote'] yea right, religious (tools by your definition) like the Sankaracharya and Ramanuja went about burning scientific litreature and destroying buildings. :giggle:
The Outsider Posted September 9, 2010 Posted September 9, 2010 yea right' date=' religious (tools by your definition) like the Sankaracharya and Ramanuja went about burning scientific litreature and destroying buildings. :giggle:[/quote'] I don't remember Shankaracharya ever saying that there is scientific proof and consensus about the existence of Ram, so everyone should take his existence as the truth. Hopefully, that differentiates to you the tools from the non tools.
yoda Posted September 9, 2010 Posted September 9, 2010 I don't remember Shankaracharya ever saying that there is scientific proof and consensus about the existence of Ram, so everyone should take his existence as the truth. Hopefully, that differentiates to you the tools from the non tools. imagining things are we? :winky:
The Outsider Posted September 9, 2010 Posted September 9, 2010 imagining things are we? :winky: So you guys build a consensus without scientific proof now? Looking forward to more brainwashed garbage soon! :two_thumbs_up:
yoda Posted September 9, 2010 Posted September 9, 2010 So you guys build a consensus without scientific proof now? Looking forward to more brainwashed garbage soon! :two_thumbs_up: it is called belief. you didn't ask for scientific proof that oxygen is indeed good for you before you decided to inhale did you? :winky:
Manny_Pacquiao Posted September 9, 2010 Posted September 9, 2010 it is called belief. you didn't ask for scientific proof that oxygen is indeed good for you before you decided to inhale did you? :winky: what a ridiculous analogy. i hope this isnt a serious comment. you sound like a pretty educated guy, i'm sure u have a cozy living in cali or wherever u are...which makes me wonder how u can be so silly at times. educated people shouldnt be believing in magical fairy tale BS
The Outsider Posted September 9, 2010 Posted September 9, 2010 it is called belief. you didn't ask for scientific proof that oxygen is indeed good for you before you decided to inhale did you? :winky: Didn't expect more brainwashed garbage to come so very soon!
yoda Posted September 9, 2010 Posted September 9, 2010 what a ridiculous analogy. i hope this isnt a serious comment. you sound like a pretty educated guy, i'm sure u have a cozy living in cali or wherever u are...which makes me wonder how u can be so silly at times. educated people shouldnt be believing in magical fairy tale BS As of 2005 (most recent data), approximately 88 percent of the world's population were said to "believe in God" (Cambridge University). This is down from 96 percent in 2000. In the United States, 95 percent of the population "believe in God." http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_many_people_believe_in_God_worldwide How silly of 88% of the population or 95% of those in the US. :winky: Didn't expect more brainwashed garbage to come so very soon! Glad I helped lighten up your day :hysterical:
Manny_Pacquiao Posted September 9, 2010 Posted September 9, 2010 As of 2005 (most recent data), approximately 88 percent of the world's population were said to "believe in God" (Cambridge University). This is down from 96 percent in 2000. In the United States, 95 percent of the population "believe in God." http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_many_people_believe_in_God_worldwide How silly of 88% of the population or 95% of those in the US. :winky: Glad I helped lighten up your day :hysterical: i was talking about your comment: "you didn't ask for scientific proof that oxygen is indeed good for you before you decided to inhale" thats pretty ****ing stupid. first of all, knowing that you need oxygen to live is a scientifically proven fact. you dont need to believe in it blindly because the reasoning and evidence exists for it, plus if u choose to believe otherwise u will probably kill yourself (bringing u closer to your 'god' ?). anyway, just because lots of ppl claim to believe in god doesnt mean they are all religious nutjobs. ppl are agnostic, ppl believe without having a certain religion, some have casual belief without practicing anything and there are those that believe in the god that u hear about in the religions. you cant blanket all these ppl together because they are fundamentally different. plus there are lot of dumb as **** ppl in the world as well, i dont know if u want to be a part of that group or not. i dont really care if ppl want to believe in fairytales, its a free world. i just dont like it when religious ***s infringe upon my right to mock their BS religion and ask me not to remain indifferent to the burning of their stupid books. keep your beliefs to yourself
The Outsider Posted September 9, 2010 Posted September 9, 2010 Do you also have poll numbers from a couple of thousand years back about the percentage of population who believed the earth is flat and the sun revolves around it?
yoda Posted September 9, 2010 Posted September 9, 2010 i dont really care if ppl want to believe in fairytales, its a free world. i just dont like it when religious ***s infringe upon my right to mock their BS religion and ask me not to remain indifferent to the burning of their stupid books. keep your beliefs to yourself Ah, if only the agnostics or the non-believers kept their "beliefs" to themselves and didn't infringe upon the right of others to practice their religion freely. The US constitution gives one freedom of religion. It also gives a person freedom of speech. When they both clash, we'll let the courts decide who is right and wrong.
yoda Posted September 9, 2010 Posted September 9, 2010 Do you also have poll numbers from a couple of thousand years back about the percentage of population who believed the earth is flat and the sun revolves around it? Didn't think the numbers would be that high, did ya? :giggle:
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