Has modern master Tendulkar eclipsed The Don?

[Precambrian]

Bradman test is easy... Which English batsman has averaged more than 50 (leave alone 60) in these days? At best we have a KP who is a SA and avgs 47, best English bats avg 45.... In Braddy times, iirc there were atleast 2-3 guys who avged more than 60...!!!!! And that too considering the playing sample was basically just 2-3 major test nations.... When standard of test cricket grew exponentially over time, the "real" cricketing geniuses of these countries were exposed.... That's why you still have old hogs from Ol' Blighty still clinging on to stories of half a century back and laughably utter inanities like Hutton > Gavaskar.. etc etc... blah blah... The only batsman in the league of Sachin and Don was Sir Jack Hobbs from the pre war era... particularly because majority of his career, cricket was played on excuses of pitch, and the batting avgs during his time bear testimony to this (I don't think anyone during majority of Jack's career avged 40 over a reasonable span)

[Precambrian]

Bradman also feasted on terrible bowling attacks of his time... How many "good" bowlers can one remember from his era?? He feasted on pathetic bowling lineups like that of India, SA and West Indies... even the English bowling attack of his time was largely spineless.... It's equivalent of Tendulkar playing all his cricket against Zimbabwe, Bangaldesh, Ireland and Afganistan...

[Precambrian]

Braddy - how many test grounds he played in his entire career????? IIrc Sachin has played on more test grounds than Braddy's no. of tests... Braddy played in England and Australia, both grounds he would be accustomed to like the back of his palm... Not that Sachin's record is terrible by any standards in these two places.. Same medium pace trundlers... same line same length... same field placements... dire fielders... no diving catches, no marvellous run outs... lol!

[King Tendulkar]

Bradmans average is basically 89 as that is what he averaged against england the only proper team he played. The others he played were the equivalient of playing Afghanistan now.

[Gunner_Mania]

I was at a show today where David Bumble Lloyd was promoting his new book - Start the Car and was asked this question about how the Don would have fared had he played in modern cricket and he quoted from a interview that was done with the Don when the Don was in his 70s and the Don apparently is supposed to have said that had he played in these modern days he would have probably averaged in the 50 to 55 range.

[CSK Fan]

I was at a show today where David Bumble Lloyd was promoting his new book - Start the Car and was asked this question about how the Don would have fared had he played in modern cricket and he quoted from a interview that was done with the Don when the Don was in his 70s and the Don apparently is supposed to have said that had he played in these modern days he would have probably averaged in the 50 to 55 range.

I am not sure about this but I think the Don said, " I will average about 50-55 but only because I am 75 years old"

[TumTum]

I am not sure about this but I think the Don said' date=' " I will average about 50-55 but only because I am 75 years old"[/quote'] I heard Sachin say that story but I think he said that Don said he would average 75 not 50 in that joke. I could be wrong though.

[Deleted_User_1]

Found this video- Interesting thing to note that both Don and Sachin had amazing discipline and humility:hatsoff:QmUw9dDa1ys&feature=related

No offense, but don't the demonstration of strokes look amateurish. I have seen that a lot with players from pre-war. Is it the effect of old footage. Seems pretty smooth though.

[ravishingravi]

Sachin Tendulkar has described being voted into ESPNcricinfo's all-time World XI as "unreal", and the team as "extraordinary company to be in". Tendulkar is the only current player in the XI, the rest of whom are four Australians, three West Indians, two Englishmen and one Pakistani. Tendulkar said he would have loved to play, talk about the game, and pick the brains of his batting partners in the XI - especially Don Bradman, who once said Tendulkar reminded him of himself. "It would have been great to play in this dream team, to walk out with Bradman after lunch, or build a partnership with Viv Richards, and talk to Sobers about cricket," Tendulkar told ESPNcricinfo. "Just playing and having a conversation with them about cricket. I would liked to have asked Hobbs and Hutton what it was like to play on uncovered wickets, who were the best bowlers they had faced, and of course, the mental aspect of the game." Tendulkar, whose international career is now in its 21st year, was particularly pleased with the fact that he had played with or watched live nearly 60% of the side. "I played with Malcolm Marshall in county cricket, I played against Viv Richards in an exhibition game, and Lillee bowled to me at the nets at the MRF Pace Academy, when I was 15," he said. "It was such a thrill. I remember I called my brother and said to him that Dennis Lillee had bowled to me. So to now find myself in this company is unreal. I first met him when I was 12. Wasim Akram, one of three fast bowlers in the XI, described being picked in the team as one of his biggest achievements. "I never thought I would play for Pakistan, let alone be picked for an all-time World XI like this. It is a very special thing, to be picked by these judges and even more of an honour to be in the same team as guys like Sir Don Bradman, Sir Viv Richards, Sir Garry Sobers, Sachin and the others." Akram said he was happy to be named alongside his bowling hero, Malcolm Marshall. "A lot of people ask me who was the best bowler I ever saw. Imran was great, no doubt, very hardworking and shrewd. Dennis Lillee I never really saw, but people tell you obviously about how good he was. But when I rate a bowler, I look at how he did around the world, on different pitches in England, the subcontinent and Australia, and Malcolm Marshall, I feel, was the best of the lot. Adam Gilchrist, who is one of three players to make the XI who retired in the last decade (the others were Shane Warne and Akram) said many other wicketkeepers could have been picked instead of him. "To be one of only four Australian players to be chosen is an absolute honour, although I do think there were several other wicketkeepers, like Rod Marsh, Ian Healy, Mark Boucher or Alan Knott, who could have easily been picked ahead of me in this team," Gilchrist said. Knott came close to being picked: only eight points separated him and Gilchrist in the final reckoning. Lillee, who led the fast-bowling list in the votes, said it was an honour to be picked by a jury that was made up of eight Test captains as well as respected historians and writers. "Looking at the composition of the team, it's hard to question any of those selected. Though some great players have missed out, it would be interesting to pick another world team from those remaining, and I'm sure even that team would push the one that's been selected to the limit," he said. http://www.cricinfo.com/magazine/content/current/story/483276.html Doesn't Sachin know that it was absolutely batting friendly conditions on uncovered tracks. Or is he being sarcastic about Hutton''s selection ? Highly doubt it. If only he could visit the ICB to get his fundas right.

[ZodiaC]

AR: It's time for the question that Geoffrey has picked as the most interesting one for the fortnight. It's from Ishant Bhattacharya, who has written in from India. He wants to know if you think a rating in a recent survey in an Australian newspaper, which says Sachin Tendulkar is the best ever, above Don Bradman, is something you agree with. Geoff Boycott: No, I don't, don't be silly. There were no ODIs when Bradman played. So when we look at all of Tendulkar's fantastic achievements in ODI cricket, we need to remember people like Jack Hobbs, WG Grace, Victor Trumper didn't play the same format. You can't level that at someone like Bradman. He didn't play any, so we can only judge him on Test matches. For me, in the last 25-30 years, Tendulkar and Brian Lara have been the best batsmen since Garry Sobers and Viv Richards. Tendulkar and Lara have been way above the rest and there have been some fine players like VVS Laxman, Rahul Dravid, Jacques Kallis... Sobers played 93 Tests and one ODI and Richards played 187 ODIs and 121 Tests. So do we rate him better than Sobers because he didn't play many ODIs? That's nonsense. You have to judge them in the era they played, how much cricket was around etc. Was Richards better than Sobers? Not for me. Garry's the best batsman I've seen in my career. But there are many West Indians who have seen him who will tell you that Richards and Sobers aren't the two best West Indian batsmen. They'll tell you it was George Headley - "the black Bradman" - from Jamaica, who played only 22 Tests and no ODIs. So what do we do? We're also coloured by what we see, by the present time. It's very easy to forget people who played years ago, whom we never saw. I never saw Bradman bat but I have read loads of books about him. You shouldn't rate players purely on the amount of Tests or ODIs they've played or whether you saw them recently or not. People ought to stop writing such rubbish. Maybe they do it to get people like Ishant to write to me and ask me for my opinion. You wonder that's why they do it in newspapers. http://www.cricinfo.com/ci/content/video_audio/483806.html