maniac Posted November 29, 2010 Posted November 29, 2010 Also Shane Warne would have been an awesome captain.He impressed with his leadership skills in the 1st IPL
ZodiaC Posted November 30, 2010 Posted November 30, 2010 Looks like border is way too underrated here :dontknow:
Andy Posted November 30, 2010 Posted November 30, 2010 Looks like border is way too underrated here :dontknow: Border is nothing compared to the Magician with Midas touch MSD.
vamos_rafa Posted November 30, 2010 Posted November 30, 2010 Also Shane Warne would have been an awesome captain.He impressed with his leadership skills in the 1st IPL That's the only platforms where he impressed with his captaincy. Since then he has been pretty mediocre. There's no best captains per se rather there are various categories of captains. You have the tacticians. Captains like Nasser Hussain( Surprised that people here have not considered someone whom Sachin rated as the best captain that he played against), Stephen Fleming,Hansie Cronje fall under this category. Then we have the aggressors. The one's who beat their chest on the field and get the best out of their team. They don't mind showing their emotions on the field. Dada, Wasim bhai, Imran Khan are the prime examples of this. The Icy cool types-> MSD, Mark Taylor,Arjuna Ranatunga(Another name which surprisingly has been missed out here) fall under this. These skippers never blink their eye and never do they show their emotions. But somehow they get the best out of their team howsoever it may seem. Tugga's team in the 90's was not particularly strong on paper but he got some fantastic results with it. MSD has also been doing well with his team thought it ain't that weak. Ranatunga was the one who made SL cricket what it is today. Steve Waugh also requires a mention here. His team was not particularly weak, but he was the pivot around which the team was built. PS->I have given the names of only those whom I have seen playing. There are many other great captians like Lloyd, Border,Brearly but unfortunately I have not seen them in action.
vaibhav_delhi Posted November 30, 2010 Posted November 30, 2010 Border is nothing compared to the Magician with Midas touch MSD. I havent seen Border play , so no comments on him...
maniac Posted November 30, 2010 Posted November 30, 2010 That's the only platforms where he impressed with his captaincy. Since then he has been pretty mediocre. There's no best captains per se rather there are various categories of captains. You have the tacticians. Captains like Nasser Hussain( Surprised that people here have not considered someone whom Sachin rated as the best captain that he played against), Stephen Fleming,Hansie Cronje fall under this category. Then we have the aggressors. The one's who beat their chest on the field and get the best out of their team. They don't mind showing their emotions on the field. Dada, Wasim bhai, Imran Khan are the prime examples of this. The Icy cool types-> MSD, Mark Taylor,Arjuna Ranatunga(Another name which surprisingly has been missed out here) fall under this. These skippers never blink their eye and never do they show their emotions. But somehow they get the best out of their team howsoever it may seem. Tugga's team in the 90's was not particularly strong on paper but he got some fantastic results with it. MSD has also been doing well with his team thought it ain't that weak. Ranatunga was the one who made SL cricket what it is today. Steve Waugh also requires a mention here. His team was not particularly weak, but he was the pivot around which the team was built. PS->I have given the names of only those whom I have seen playing. There are many other great captians like Lloyd, Border,Brearly but unfortunately I have not seen them in action. Wonderful Post
maniac Posted November 30, 2010 Posted November 30, 2010 I admire Dhoni as a captain because he gets the respect and acceptance from his senior team mates,some of them who are considered among the best ever to play the game. In case of Dada,Imran Khan and even Mark Taylor to some extent had the benefit of being one of the senior players in the team who automatically commanded respect when they led a squad comprising majorly of Youngsters. ofcourse,they also had the cooperation from other senior players of the squad..eg;Minadad for Imran,Sachin,Anil for Dada,Healy,Boon,Mcdermott for Taylor. This is where I like Dhoni because he seems to be in control when majority of the squads he led are either his seniors or contemporaries.eg;Sachin,VVS,RD,Sehwag,Yuvi,Harbhajan,Zaheer who debuted way before him or his contemporaries like Karthick,Gambhir,Sreeshanth. We can make a case for Greame Smith being in a similar position when he took over captaincy but defintely MSD seems to be more in control as a captain than Smith ever was.
vaibhav_delhi Posted December 1, 2010 Posted December 1, 2010 Plus the Calmness that Dhoni exudes is unprecedented. Very rarely seen him perturbed. Soaks up all the pressure. Comes up with captaincy masterstrokes every game like for example, sending Pujara at No. 3 recently.
ZodiaC Posted December 1, 2010 Posted December 1, 2010 Plus the Calmness that Dhoni exudes is unprecedented. Very rarely seen him perturbed. Soaks up all the pressure. Comes up with captaincy masterstrokes every game like for example' date=' sending Pujara at No. 3 recently.[/quote'] Pujara at No. 3 is hardly a 'masterstroke'. It was a very logical decision to send him early, but not a masterstroke. Agree about him keeping a cool head though. That's probably his best quality.
Pak_Forever Posted December 1, 2010 Posted December 1, 2010 No one comes close to Imran Khan. The guy is regarded as the best cricket captain by many cricket pundits....but ofcourse accepting that will be against the norm of this place.
Sir john Posted December 1, 2010 Author Posted December 1, 2010 No one comes close to Imran Khan. The guy is regarded as the best cricket captain by many cricket pundits....but ofcourse accepting that will be against the norm of this place. :finger: your imran takes 10 years to win world cup but our kapil take only 7 years.
vaibhav_delhi Posted December 1, 2010 Posted December 1, 2010 Pujara at No. 3 is hardly a 'masterstroke'. It was a very logical decision to send him early' date=' but not a masterstroke. Agree about him keeping a cool head though. That's probably his best quality.[/quote'] mate..it is easy to fear failure and go the conventional way. That was certainly a captaincy masterstroke.
Pak_Forever Posted December 1, 2010 Posted December 1, 2010 :finger: your imran takes 21 year to win world cup but our kapil take only 7 years. Afridi is better than Sachin, as Sachin has never hit the fastest century....now go make some sense out of my post and just relate it to yours. :winky:
Sir john Posted December 1, 2010 Author Posted December 1, 2010 Afridi is better than Sachin' date=' as Sachin has never hit the fastest century....now go make some sense out of my post and just relate it to yours. :winky:[/quote'] :hysterical::hysterical::hysterical::hysterical::hysterical::hysterical::hysterical: our jogi is far better than ur afridi :yay:
ZodiaC Posted December 1, 2010 Posted December 1, 2010 mate..it is easy to fear failure and go the conventional way. That was certainly a captaincy masterstroke. It was just logical, and a good move too, because seniors can handle the pressure in case Pujara fails. And if failed the loss was only Pujara's so kudos to him for performing under pressure. But that's hardly a masterstroke. And I hope he'll be persisted with at no. 3 in SA too.
Sachin=GOD Posted December 1, 2010 Posted December 1, 2010 It was just logical' date=' and a good move too, because seniors can handle the pressure in case Pujara fails. And if failed the loss was only Pujara's so kudos to him for performing under pressure. But that's hardly a masterstroke. And I hope he'll be persisted with at no. 3 in SA too.[/quote'] I hope to see Dravid at no3 in SA because in conditions like SA you want an experienced batsman who has consistently performed at no3 over the years. Also, I'd hope Raina is given a chance for at least the 1st test.
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