vvvslaxman Posted January 6, 2011 Posted January 6, 2011 http://www.foxsports.com.au/cricket/the-ashes/former-test-batsman-mark-waugh-is-disillusioned-by-australias-inability-to-swing-the-cricket-ball/story-e6frf3gl-1225983237262 Former Test batsman Mark Waugh is disillusioned by Australia's inability to swing the cricket ball By Christopher Boyd FOX SPORTS January 06, 2011 9:09PM Former Test batsman Mark Waugh is disillusioned by Australia's inability to swing the ball both ways, saying he could go into the nets and do it - so why can't his country's best pacemen? The gulf between class bowling and Australia bowling in this summer's Ashes series was again highlighted on day four of the fifth Test as England's pace trio embarrassed the hosts at the SCG. After compiling 644 - the largest innings by an England team in this country - James Anderson, Tim Bresnan and Chris Tremlett went to work on Michael Clarke's men with a master class of swing bowling. When asked by Martin Smith on The Last Word why England had twice made Australia look foolish on what appeared a good Sydney batting wicket, Waugh replied: "It's really simple - they get the seam straight, our bowlers don't. "It's a simple method of bowling, but for some reason our bowlers cannot stand the seam up. "I just don't understand it. I could go in the nets now and bowl and get the seam straight." Australia have lost their past two away Ashes series by a scoreline of 2-1, with reverse swing being touted as England's major weapon on each occasion. However, this summer England have made the hosts look feeble on their home wickets, and yet Australia look no closer to matching the Old Enemy with their most potent weapon - fast, reverse swing. Do you agree with Mark Waugh's observations of the Australia bowlers? Have your say at the bottom of the page. Waugh suggested Australia's best exponent of reverse swing wasn't even in the frontline attack, singling out all-rounder Shane Watson as the best of a bad bunch. "Shane Watson is our best bowler. He's the only one that can swing the ball reverse consistently," he said. "Mitchell Johnson obviously can't do that with the way that he bowls. "Hilfenhaus bowls with the ball on a very sharp angle. "Siddle is not too bad. But Shane Watson is about the only one who gets it to stand up straight." If England and Waugh can get the seam straight, yet Australia's bowlers continue to hurl the ball down the pitch in such scrambled, thoughtless fashion, one wonders how much longer the national team need to learn from the brutal lessons handed out by the visitors throughout this series. "You've got to learn to do that," said Waugh, delivering a blunt message to Australia's current and future pacemen. "It's basic bowling, to get the seam straight ... and at the moment we just can't do it."
vvvslaxman Posted January 6, 2011 Author Posted January 6, 2011 Australia lacks skills. We lack pace. But we get things done more effectively than Aussies at the moment.
Sid Posted January 6, 2011 Posted January 6, 2011 I still think Aussies fast bowling resources are very good
vvvslaxman Posted January 6, 2011 Author Posted January 6, 2011 I still think Aussies fast bowling resources are very good In certain conditions yes. But if you are going to bowl gun barrell straight without any swing it is going to be hard work.
achilles Posted January 6, 2011 Posted January 6, 2011 Where is Nathan Bracken? That dude would bend his back and probably bowl even with a broken leg.
Sid Posted January 6, 2011 Posted January 6, 2011 In certain conditions yes. But if you are going to bowl gun barrell straight without any swing it is going to be hard work. Ya they lack skill factor but have pace so there is some potential there
Sir john Posted January 6, 2011 Posted January 6, 2011 mark waugh was a spinner i think how the hell he can swing the ball :wall: :hmmmm:
achilles Posted January 6, 2011 Posted January 6, 2011 mark waugh was a spinner i think how the hell he can swing the ball :wall: :hmmmm: SJ has pwned Mark, fair and square.
The Outsider Posted January 6, 2011 Posted January 6, 2011 ^ He used to bowl useful medium pace early on in his career. He took a five wicket haul bowling it once : http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/63666.html
Sir john Posted January 6, 2011 Posted January 6, 2011 ^ He used to bowl useful medium pace early on in his career. He took a five wicket haul bowling it once : http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/63666.html i know that, but he making people fool by saying that he can swing the ball in both ways
vvvslaxman Posted January 6, 2011 Author Posted January 6, 2011 The way mitch tries to brings the ball back is one of the ugliest sight in world cricket. He would literally try to bend his hand to do that.
vvvslaxman Posted January 6, 2011 Author Posted January 6, 2011 i know that, but he making people fool by saying that he can swing the ball in both ways Not hard sir. Sachin can do. It is the release, seam position that counts. But for some it just doesn't come natural.
Sir john Posted January 6, 2011 Posted January 6, 2011 Not hard sir. Sachin can do. It is the release' date=' seam position that counts. But for some it just doesn't come natural.[/quote'] i did't see him bowling medium pace i may be wrong
The Outsider Posted January 6, 2011 Posted January 6, 2011 i know that, but he making people fool by saying that he can swing the ball in both ways Sirji, woh itna hi keh raha hai ki woh seam seedhi rakh sakta hai. "I just don't understand it. I could go in the nets now and bowl and get the seam straight." He is not saying that he is some great bowler or can swing it 5 different ways.
kabira Posted January 6, 2011 Posted January 6, 2011 Mark Waugh bowled seam ups early part of his career
vvvslaxman Posted January 6, 2011 Author Posted January 6, 2011 i did't see him bowling medium pace i may be wrong At the international level i have seen him only bowl offies. But it is not that uncommon that some players know how to bowl certain deliveries.
vvvslaxman Posted January 6, 2011 Author Posted January 6, 2011 Peter of Brisbane says… January 06, 2011 at 10:29 PM Our bowling pitch map looks as if someone tipped a bucket of balls out of a helicopter from 30 feet. Here is a comment :hysterical:
Bradman99 Posted January 7, 2011 Posted January 7, 2011 Where is Nathan Bracken? That dude would bend his back and probably bowl even with a broken leg. I think his injured because he hasn't been playing for NSW and not for a while either. Having said that, NSW do have Lee, Bollinger, Hauritz and Clark. As well as youngsters like Starc and Hazlewood. But still Bracken was the best ODI bowler in the world not too long ago and couldn't get into the test side because our bowling line up then was fantastic. However now it is not the best and I think it really lacks variety. We need to blood a youngster like a Hazlewood/Starc/Copeland. I realise they are all from NSW but they seem to be the best prospects. Kind of strange how all the young players seem to be NSW. Need a mix. 6 of the top 7 batting line up is NSW and Katich is injured who is also NSW. The only one who isn't is Hussey.
Jersey #10 Posted January 7, 2011 Posted January 7, 2011 Why can't Australia play Dirk Nannes? It's all known that Dirk has represented two different country teams in the past but he is legally allowed to represent Australia in any case anyways. I think Dirk Nannes would be an ideal choice for the Australians as he has a great seam action and I am sure he can reverse it.
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