The Outsider Posted January 17, 2011 Author Posted January 17, 2011 Mediocre bowling attack????? The myth of how bad or bowling is just gets bigger and bigger. half the indian bowling attack - zaheer and harbhajan - is in the top 10 of the ICC rankings but dont expect the chxthiya fair weather indians on this forum to understand that :hysterical: Yeah dudes, you know what? The attacks we played in SL and against NZ had so much fire in them - I mean how dare anyone call Ishant bowling short and wide mediocre. Oh, BTW, he was the attack leader.
Manny_Pacquiao Posted January 17, 2011 Posted January 17, 2011 Yeah dudes' date=' you know what? The attacks we played in SL and against NZ had so much fire in them - I mean how dare anyone call Ishant bowling short and wide mediocre. Oh, BTW, he was the attack leader.[/quote'] mentioning one or two tests doesnt change the fact that dhoni almost always has the services of two top 10 ranked bowlers at his disposal... if u think dhoni's captaincy record would be just as good if he didnt have those two guys, then i dont know what to tell you...
The Outsider Posted January 17, 2011 Author Posted January 17, 2011 mentioning one or two tests doesnt change the fact that dhoni almost always has the services of two top 10 ranked bowlers at his disposal... if u think dhoni's captaincy record would be just as good if he didnt have those two guys, then i dont know what to tell you... India played 14 tests in 2010 - in 8 of them either one of Zaheer or Harbhajan was missing. In 6 when both were there, Zaheer broke down mid way in 2 of them. I suggest you seek admission in kindergarten to learn counting before making statements.
Manny_Pacquiao Posted January 17, 2011 Posted January 17, 2011 India played 14 tests in 2010 - in 8 of them either one of Zaheer or Harbhajan was missing. In 6 when both were there' date=' Zaheer broke down mid way in 2 of them. I suggest you seek admission in kindergarten to learn counting before making statements.[/quote'] i have no idea what u are trying to prove there. but facts are facts: zaheer and harbhajan played together in 11 of the 14 matches dhoni has won as indian captain. i have proven my point. in the meantime you can carry on denying the simple logic of dhoni's record being the result of having two quality bowlers...good luck with that
The Outsider Posted January 17, 2011 Author Posted January 17, 2011 ^ Yeah what you have proven is that by saying, 'mentioning one or two tests doesnt change the fact that dhoni almost always has the services of two top 10 ranked bowlers at his disposal' you had no idea that during the last year Dhoni had the services of both during an entire test 4/14 times! :hysterical:
Manny_Pacquiao Posted January 17, 2011 Posted January 17, 2011 ^ Yeah what you have proven is that by saying' date=' 'mentioning one or two tests doesnt change the fact that dhoni almost always has the services of two top 10 ranked bowlers at his disposal' you had no idea that during the last year Dhoni had the services of both during an entire test 4/14 times! :hysterical:[/quote'] my point was that dhoni's record wouldnt be anywhere near as good if he didnt have two top 10 ranked bowlers in his team. a fact that is lost on you poor souls that continue to think he has a mediocre bowling attack. you had no idea that during the last year Dhoni had the services of both during an entire test 4/14 times! :hysterical: nothing like a bit of selective amnesia to prolong a bullshit argument... since u are an expert at counting, u should also be able to count the number of matches captained by dhoni as being 24, and count that harbhajan and zaheer have played in 18 of them. so amazingly enough!!!!!!!!! :omg::omg::omg: he HAS had the services of two top 10 bowlers for most of his captaincy career...
The Outsider Posted January 17, 2011 Author Posted January 17, 2011 ^ No, that was not your point. If it was justify the factually incorrect statement ie. lie 'mentioning one or two tests doesnt change the fact that dhoni almost always has the services of two top 10 ranked bowlers at his disposal'
Manny_Pacquiao Posted January 17, 2011 Posted January 17, 2011 ^ No' date=' that was not your point. If it was justify the factually incorrect statement ie. lie 'mentioning one or two tests doesnt change the fact that dhoni almost always has the services of two top 10 ranked bowlers at his disposal'[/quote'] are u ***ing serious? zaheer and harbhajan playing together in 18 out of the 24 tests captained by dhoni = almost always has the services of two top 10 ranked bowlers at his disposal. anyway, i'm done wasting my time on you. have fun backslapping the other moronic keyboard warriors on this forum...
The Outsider Posted January 17, 2011 Author Posted January 17, 2011 ^ Yeah have fun believing our Number One position is solely because Harbhajan and Zaheer featured start to end in 4/14 of our 2010 tests!
vaibhav_delhi Posted January 17, 2011 Posted January 17, 2011 South africa has the best bowling lineup in the world, With the top 2 ranked bowlers in the world (steyn n morkel) always playing for them in the last 2 years. Still, i think, they have won only 1 of their last 5-6 test series. SA and english bowling is better than ours and our best 2 bowlers havent played many matches together in the last year. So you cant take away the fact that dhoni is a marvellous captain and one of the greatest ever in the history of cricket, irrespective of the bowling lineup, he can work and win with whatever bowlers he is given. Depth of indian fast bowling is not great as we know it.
vaibhav_delhi Posted January 17, 2011 Posted January 17, 2011 Having stated the lack of depth of indian fast bowling, india probably still have the 3rd best bowling lineup in the world after sa and england
saneindian Posted January 17, 2011 Posted January 17, 2011 my point was that dhoni's record wouldnt be anywhere near as good if he didnt have two top 10 ranked bowlers in his team. a fact that is lost on you poor souls that continue to think he has a mediocre bowling attack. nothing like a bit of selective amnesia to prolong a bullshit argument... since u are an expert at counting, u should also be able to count the number of matches captained by dhoni as being 24, and count that harbhajan and zaheer have played in 18 of them. so amazingly enough!!!!!!!!! :omg::omg::omg: he HAS had the services of two top 10 bowlers for most of his captaincy career... Just to add a perspective Throughout the 2000s we have had Bhajji and Kumble in the top 10 bowler rankings almost all the times. And there have been periods when we had Srinath, Zaheer, Irfan etc in top 10 or at no. 11-12 etc. So wonder what exactly the point is.
King Tendulkar Posted January 17, 2011 Posted January 17, 2011 India played 14 tests in 2010 - in 8 of them either one of Zaheer or Harbhajan was missing. In 6 when both were there' date=' Zaheer broke down mid way in 2 of them. I suggest you seek admission in kindergarten to learn counting before making statements.[/quote'] You seem to be shifting the goal posts. Are you saying that without ZK or Bhaji in the side we are mediocre bowling attack? Or are you going by your OP which has no such caveat and is saying that even with everyone fit including bhaji and zk that we still have a medicre bowling attack?
The Outsider Posted January 17, 2011 Author Posted January 17, 2011 You seem to be shifting the goal posts. Are you saying that without ZK or Bhaji in the side we are mediocre bowling attack? Or are you going by your OP which has no such caveat and is saying that even with everyone fit including bhaji and zk that we still have a medicre bowling attack? The OP did not have any caveats because it was my understanding that people who have followed Indian cricket would know that on a lot of occasions we have fielded mediocre attacks due to injuries. It was meant for people with a bit of common sense, not for people who start jumping up and down, 'Look, look Zaheer.....look, look Harbhajan, top 10 bowlers' without even knowing that only in 4/14 tests in 2010 did Dhoni have both start to finish.
King Tendulkar Posted January 18, 2011 Posted January 18, 2011 The OP did not have any caveats because it was my understanding that people who have followed Indian cricket would know that on a lot of occasions we have fielded mediocre attacks due to injuries. It was meant for people with a bit of common sense' date=' not for people who start jumping up and down, 'Look, look Zaheer.....look, look Harbhajan, top 10 bowlers' without even knowing that only in 4/14 tests in 2010 did Dhoni have both start to finish.[/quote'] So in the OP you say we have a mediocre bowling attack with no caveats. Then you talk about history and stats on how many times bowlers played etc Please clarify! Are you saying that with ZK and Bhaji in the attack that we have a mediocre bowing attack as your OP says? A simple yes or no will suffice!
Shehezaada Posted January 18, 2011 Posted January 18, 2011 Dhoni - wake up. We're bleeding singles here. Bring the fielders into the circle and force them to hit over the top. These singles are going to kill us.
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