CC1981 Posted May 24, 2007 Share Posted May 24, 2007 Interesting, KR. I remember hearing that a male lion can take down a bengal or amur tiger because a male lion specializes in fighting for territorry while tigers arnt specialist fighters but specialist hunters (both sexes). In the lions, only the female is the specialist hunter. As per Grizzly or Polar bears, they can take down a tiger very easily. I don't think the tiger can bite the neck of a grizzly/polar bear fast enough or effectively enough and it doesn't have a hope in hell in winning the fist fight since the Grizzly has far superior fist power and sharper/stronger claws. Tiger would be ripped open in half 9 outta 10 times. The reason i say Grizzly, even though Polar bears can own tigers is because Grizzlys own polar bears. Polar bears are bigger than Grizzlies but not by much and they have far more fat plus are significantly slower. A grizzly vs an elephant would be an interesting contest. An elephant could probably pick up logs and hurl it at the bear or head-butt it to death but if a grizzly gets a free swipe at an elephant's belly, thats a dead elephant right there. As per African bull elephants, yes they are in general bigger and more aggressive than Asiatic elephants but when an elephant is under the effects of musth, it wouldn't matter if its an African or Asian elephant, it'd be a super-angry, super aggressive and super horny elephant anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kumble_rocks Posted May 24, 2007 Share Posted May 24, 2007 Interesting, KR. I remember hearing that a male lion can take down a bengal or amur tiger because a male lion specializes in fighting for territorry while tigers arnt specialist fighters but specialist hunters (both sexes). In the lions, only the female is the specialist hunter. As per Grizzly or Polar bears, they can take down a tiger very easily. I don't think the tiger can bite the neck of a grizzly/polar bear fast enough or effectively enough and it doesn't have a hope in hell in winning the fist fight since the Grizzly has far superior fist power and sharper/stronger claws. Tiger would be ripped open in half 9 outta 10 times. The reason i say Grizzly, even though Polar bears can own tigers is because Grizzlys own polar bears. Polar bears are bigger than Grizzlies but not by much and they have far more fat plus are significantly slower. A grizzly vs an elephant would be an interesting contest. An elephant could probably pick up logs and hurl it at the bear or head-butt it to death but if a grizzly gets a free swipe at an elephant's belly, thats a dead elephant right there. As per African bull elephants, yes they are in general bigger and more aggressive than Asiatic elephants but when an elephant is under the effects of musth, it wouldn't matter if its an African or Asian elephant, it'd be a super-angry, super aggressive and super horny elephant anyways. Even Discovery had a program about interspecies conflicts , wherein african lion was pitted against bengal tiger. This fight was simulated through computer and they judged the lion to be the winner for the same reasons you cite. That is the mane and bigger neck strength. But , their are videos in youtube where tiger has won most of the time. Even historical anecdotes suggest tiger to be the winner. Personally , bengal tiger has immense strength and can actually bring down a 1 tonne water buffalo on it's own. It is more muscular than african lion and if you watch those videos, they will fight off the lion with their claws and fist power. Plus Lion is poor hunter although they defend their territories well. African bull elephant can weigh upto 9 tonnes and is known to be very aggressive animal. I don't think a grizzly bear has a chance against it one on one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CC1981 Posted May 24, 2007 Share Posted May 24, 2007 I don't think a grizzly bear has a chance against it one on one. I think a Grizzly will lose more often than not but a Grizzly has a chance against anybody. Its a hard animal to kill, even for an elephant and it can kill anything if it can get a clean swipe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holysmoke Posted May 24, 2007 Share Posted May 24, 2007 You guys should check this out. 1 word. Brilliant. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YewzzJtXlgA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Posted May 24, 2007 Share Posted May 24, 2007 Holysmoke, why don't you post that as a video? Don't you see the insert video option in the quick reply? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gambit Posted May 24, 2007 Author Share Posted May 24, 2007 A Rhino will obliterate anyone in a one on one fight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CC1981 Posted May 25, 2007 Share Posted May 25, 2007 naw..Rhino will get owned by an elephant. Everything Rhino's got ( weight, tusk, thick skin), Elephant's got it bigger and badder. Plus an elephant is pretty smart for an animal while a Rhino is one of the dumbest animals walking around. Elephant wins. it'll kick and trample the hell out of the Rhino and even if a rhino runs into an elephant, an elephant running into a rhino is far worse for the rhino. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anakin Posted May 25, 2007 Share Posted May 25, 2007 Really hate seeing kills, yet can't turn the telly off. There's a morbid fascination about seing a creature die. Remember my worst ever such on National Geographic Wild, when I watched a leopard kill a baboon mum, nursing an infant. It was terrible. However, the leopard then took the little baboon and played with it. When it had had enough, it went to sleep in the tree besides the baby, where it eventually died of cold. I didn't know the outcome until I read it in the magazine a few days later. I suppose it depends on your interpretation. Baboons kill young cubs leopard included as well. And that leopard didn't play with the baboon baby, rather took care of it (eg licked it to keep it warm) instead of her natural instinct to kill that as well, she stayed with it for 4/5 hours till it died of cold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anakin Posted May 25, 2007 Share Posted May 25, 2007 Elephants amaze me, that is the only biggest living animal on the face of the earth. I quite like the Tiger, they have fantastic claws, very aggressive, great jaws and are solitary hunters. There's something about tiger that isn't in Lions. And more amazing is how sensitive and intelligent they are. Like the patron of the elephant orphanage said, they have all the good qualities of humans, but not the bad ones. It's quite true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gambit Posted May 25, 2007 Author Share Posted May 25, 2007 naw..Rhino will get owned by an elephant. Everything Rhino's got ( weight, tusk, thick skin), Elephant's got it bigger and badder. Plus an elephant is pretty smart for an animal while a Rhino is one of the dumbest animals walking around. Elephant wins. it'll kick and trample the hell out of the Rhino and even if a rhino runs into an elephant, an elephant running into a rhino is far worse for the rhino. Nah. Elephants are big but slow and clumsy. Rhinos have speed and awesome battering ram power. The Rhino will charge and ram the Elephant to the next galaxy. :bike: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Predator_05 Posted May 25, 2007 Share Posted May 25, 2007 My buddy here will own any other animal in Africa; Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holysmoke Posted May 25, 2007 Share Posted May 25, 2007 YewzzJtXlgAHolysmoke' date=' why don't you post that as a video? Don't you see the insert video option in the quick reply? there you go. :regular_smile: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anakin Posted May 25, 2007 Share Posted May 25, 2007 My buddy here will own any other animal in Africa; Snakes run away when any heavy animals walk, although the black mamba is one bad ass snake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CC1981 Posted May 25, 2007 Share Posted May 25, 2007 black mamba-elephant would be a 50-50 deal to me. Whichever strikes first wins. Common sense says that a snake with its dart-like bite style is going to be the first to strike but if you've ever seen an elephant angry enough and serious enough to think about doing a good job stomping (and trust me, i have), its literally like a 5-ton hammer-head poised over your head on a hair-trigger. Gambo- elephants can run pretty fast too- they can outrun human beings easily and not that much slower than a galloping rhino. Point is, Rhino runs into an elephant, elephant is seriously hurt, gets up, puts its head down and head-buts rhino until rhino is pinned between trees or rocks and stomps it to death. If elephant runs in with head down at Rhino, rhino goes airborne, lands on its arse and breaks half the bones on its body. Before it can get half its legs up, elephant is on it, stomps the hell out of it. Ofcourse, this is under assumption that the elephant really wants to kill the Rhino- it must be a male under musth or something. Elephants despite their strength and intelligent are mostly peaceful creatures- they will mostly avoid a fight if they think its not worth it (ie, mostly to do with protecting young ones). most of the time an elephant will just go 'sod it, i am outta here, not worth winning this fight' if it spots an angry rhino. But if its in musth, it will fight, it will fight to win and it will win.Nothing stands in the way of an elephant under musth in the wild. They are pure engines of destruction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kumble_rocks Posted May 25, 2007 Share Posted May 25, 2007 Nah. Elephants are big but slow and clumsy. Rhinos have speed and awesome battering ram power. The Rhino will charge and ram the Elephant to the next galaxy. :bike: Not true. Male Bull Elephants have been known to attack Rhinos. Rhinos stand no chance against male bulls. I even saw a national geographic video wherein the male bull elephant attack and injure a rhino. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gambit Posted August 17, 2007 Author Share Posted August 17, 2007 This is among the top videos of all time on youtube now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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