Scrap all bilatelal ties to play T20 league cricket and multinational tounaments

[yoda]

I say scrap all these 5 day and full day games and start more T-20 leagues around the world. Work on making T-20 the de-facto format. make it such that there are good pitches helpful to the bowlers and make it a good competition between the bat and the ball. Every sport takes at most 3 hours to finish, barring Golf which is almost like watching paint dry so doesn't count. It is time cricket evolved and not expect people to sit on the couch and stare at their TV for 5 days. Enough of this 5 day and full day BS just to see one game complete.

[IKnowU]

I say scrap all these 5 day and full day games and start more T-20 leagues around the world. Work on making T-20 the de-facto format. make it such that there are good pitches helpful to the bowlers and make it a good competition between the bat and the ball. Every sport takes at most 3 hours to finish, barring Golf which is almost like watching paint dry so doesn't count. It is time cricket evolved and not expect people to sit on the couch and stare at their TV for 5 days. Enough of this 5 day and full day BS just to see one game complete.

I agree. I know people will the sword to our necks but. It is time for a change. I would like ODI's to abandoned. And test matches to be played in regular frequency partnered with t20/20. At one time we want cricket to expand and the same time we object say the cricket is being killed. How about we make up our minds and stick to it.

[thevortex]

Yoda and IknowU - if such a thing as what you are saying happens, then we can forget about cricket still having the wealth of literature that it possesses today. I guess that may not rank too high on your list of things to have. Just mentioning. T20 is just a rough fling compared to Tests. Believe me, it is very easy to get fed up of T20 cricket. Both as a player and as a spectator.

[yoda]

Yoda and IknowU - if such a thing as what you are saying happens, then we can forget about cricket still having the wealth of literature that it possesses today. I guess that may not rank too high on your list of things to have. Just mentioning. T20 is just a rough fling compared to Tests. Believe me, it is very easy to get fed up of T20 cricket. Both as a player and as a spectator.

No one is talking about erasing the past. We are talking about going forward. There once was a concept of timeless tests, then a rest day making it a 6 day affair, then down to 5, we now have ODIs and T20s. I wonder how many of you are still for timeless tests. :giggle: I agree T20 as it stands today is pretty raw and one-sided with good fast bowlers having very little say, that said some of them like Zak, Malinga, Bollinger have adjusted well, others like Steyn and Bond have not. I disagree about people getting fed up of T20. If you are a so called purist who will watch nothing but tests (remember for some of you even a ODI was/is pyjama cricket) you are not going to like anything else, that has nothing to do with the format you dislike, more to do with your narrow view of things. I love tests and the 4th innings drama that come on a lively pitch, except that there is one little problem. I rarely get to see them cause I don't have 5 days to watch one game and I suspect not many people do, except ofc you guessed it, the "purists".

[thevortex]

Yoda - I am no purist of the kind that you describe. I get my fill of T20 cricket as well. I love cricket too much to let go of the opportunity to see class players in action. Nevertheless the action that I see pains me. It is a gladiatorial contest really - the batsman is the bull and the bowlers are the matadors. Only that the matadors have no training, no strength and they dont have that fine, colourful cloth with them. Yet they are expected to evade the bull and eventually tire it. After a while it has to become boring - especially when the bull has trampled x number of matadors to death. I am sure you get my point.

[yoda]

Yoda - I am no purist of the kind that you describe. I get my fill of T20 cricket as well. I love cricket too much to let go of the opportunity to see class players in action. Nevertheless the action that I see pains me. It is a gladiatorial contest really - the batsman is the bull and the bowlers are the matadors. Only that the matadors have no training, no strength and they dont have that fine, colourful cloth with them. Yet they are expected to evade the bull and eventually tire it. After a while it has to become boring - especially when the bull has trampled x number of matadors to death. I am sure you get my point.

Yes, I see your point regarding good test bowlers being shown no respect here. It is a new format and they have to evolve. Same with bats too. A slow grinding technically sound player will not be successful in the IPL unless he adapts himself like Kallis has so far. You haven't addressed the big problem with tests - 5 full days to see a game to completion, which has a good chance of ending with no result. How do you expect busy people, people with lives as in college, work, family to spend 5 days watching a game other than to just manage to catch bits and pieces of it as you can manage time?

[thevortex]

The day that cricket is played the way the spectators want it to be played is the day the game becomes entirely Americanized. If you are of the school of thought that we the spectators are who pay for the game and for the players ultimately and so they must entertain me, then I am sorry I dont belong to that group. Games - any kind of games - are played first and foremost to challenge and stimulate the players. The excitement, emotions and raw visceral mix that the players experience are what make for great viewing for the spectators. A remix version consisting just the bravura moments is nowhere near satisfying as a full length match where there are both disappointments intermingled with the crowning glory moments. The same reason why there is serious cinema and then there is slapstick comedy. Dont get me wrong. I can enjoy slapstick just as well as any other. But how many awards do you know that have been given to slapstick comedy - when it comes films? Entertainment is about emotions - some forms hide them, some forms openly show them or encourage showing them. The latter often end up being more enduring. The former tend to merge into the background over time. Take your pick. Long story short - cricket without Tests is not cricket. It is glorified baseball.

[yoda]

Normal attention span = ability to stare at the TV for 5 days :giggle:

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[yoda]

the ability to read and make a post that is longer than a line would be a good start in the right direction.

you mean ability to spend hours together on a message board arguing the same topic over and over again. :winky:

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[yoda]

You mean having posts that shorter than the signatures sprinkled with a bunch of smilies is a sign of maturity and high levels of attention span ?

You mean like these in this very same thread? :winky:

Yes, I see your point regarding good test bowlers being shown no respect here. It is a new format and they have to evolve. Same with bats too. A slow grinding technically sound player will not be successful in the IPL unless he adapts himself like Kallis has so far. You haven't addressed the big problem with tests - 5 full days to see a game to completion, which has a good chance of ending with no result. How do you expect busy people, people with lives as in college, work, family to spend 5 days watching a game other than to just manage to catch bits and pieces of it as you can manage time?

No one is talking about erasing the past. We are talking about going forward. There once was a concept of timeless tests, then a rest day making it a 6 day affair, then down to 5, we now have ODIs and T20s. I wonder how many of you are still for timeless tests. :giggle: I agree T20 as it stands today is pretty raw and one-sided with good fast bowlers having very little say, that said some of them like Zak, Malinga, Bollinger have adjusted well, others like Steyn and Bond have not. I disagree about people getting fed up of T20. If you are a so called purist who will watch nothing but tests (remember for some of you even a ODI was/is pyjama cricket) you are not going to like anything else, that has nothing to do with the format you dislike, more to do with your narrow view of things. I love tests and the 4th innings drama that come on a lively pitch, except that there is one little problem. I rarely get to see them cause I don't have 5 days to watch one game and I suspect not many people do, except ofc you guessed it, the "purists".

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[ravishingravi]

Is IPL a bane for Indian Cricket? Simple question

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[Sooda]

Arent there 3 other threads on the same topic. None a poal maybe. Every poal is a goal as they say.

[straight.drive]

More like an unwanted distraction. For a change, BCCI has been effective, by putting in some rules that protect the primacy of test and international cricket. Of course, the main point is that sloggers will easily out earn the classical batsmen. But this phenomena is in all the fields. Cheap and dumb commercial cinema easily trumps art movies, but no one has stopped making these alternate independent films.

[vaibhav_delhi]

For odi cricket - no For test cricket - yes It should prolly not last beyond 25-30 days to be less boring.

[Zap_Brannigan]

Is brain drain and high quality of life in US a bane for Indian engineering industry? Should the US be blamed for that or should Indian quality of life be blamed for that?

[Roshanrocks]

good entertainment.. more peeps can take cricket as a proffesion... talent can be found at the IPL ... of course we have disadvantages too.... player burn out...etc