CasualVisitor Posted June 23, 2011 Posted June 23, 2011 I am with Nirvanam on this! This is aping West and nothing else. We could be little more creative and find out other avenues of "instilling competitiveness".
ganeshran Posted June 1, 2012 Posted June 1, 2012 Another Indian American kid wins the spelling bee..
Zelig Posted June 1, 2012 Posted June 1, 2012 Another Indian American kid wins the spelling bee.. Yaa, you guyz are good only at remembering thingz :beee:
Laaloo Posted June 1, 2012 Posted June 1, 2012 Yaa, you guyz are good only at remembering thingz :beee: :beer-bottle:
Zelch Posted June 2, 2012 Posted June 2, 2012 Winning spelling bees etc....is all well from the typical Indian perspective/Indian Parenting. But if things remain the same..even after another two decades our Ballywood writers will be churning out cringeworthy lyrics like "You r my Chammak Challo" and we will return with a grand total of 1 medal from the Olympics. On the brighter side the stereotypical image of an Indian will be like the one of "Rajesh Koothrapalli" on TBBT... short, super awkward with girls, submissive to everyone
yoda Posted June 2, 2012 Posted June 2, 2012 Winning spelling bees etc....is all well from the typical Indian perspective/Indian Parenting. But if things remain the same..even after another two decades our Ballywood writers will be churning out cringeworthy lyrics like "You r my Chammak Challo" and we will return with a grand total of 1 medal from the Olympics. On the brighter side the stereotypical image of an Indian will be like the one of "Rajesh Koothrapalli" on TBBT... short, super awkward with girls, submissive to everyone What about the image of his hot sister who sleeps around with white boys? :winky: Listen, everyone isn't cut out to be an Olympian or an Athlete. It doesn't mean that we stop doing anything for fear of being branded as something uncool.
Yoda-esque Posted June 2, 2012 Posted June 2, 2012 Surprise Surprise ..She wants to become a NeuroSurgeon Dads a Computer Engineer..
Zelch Posted June 2, 2012 Posted June 2, 2012 Surprise Surprise ..She wants to become a NeuroSurgeon Dads a Computer Engineer.. You can safely fill the "occupation" columns of the parents of all the participants as Computer Engineer/Daactar and young kids are anyway pre-programmed to aim for whichever is the highest paying specializations in Engineer/daaktar category. When people were in India atleast we had an excuse that engineering/daaktari were the only way out of poverty and possibly a ticket for life in the west. So kids getting crammed into coaching classes 18 hours a day was acceptable. What excuse do American-Indian parents flush with dollars have this time. Its okay if few of them pursued this spelling bee/ geography bee etc stuff but its the same culture the parents are bringing in that they experienced in India. People have to go and see one of those local bee competitions....its the exact re-creation of Indian cram classes and mad rush for their kids to beat neighboring Sharmaji's kid. My point is... there should be healthy representation of Indians in all walks of life especially when they are the richest ethnic group in US. Sports, Music, Art, films and creating writing are no less than money spinners like Medicine/Engineering. If Americans were anything like Indians there wouldnt be this huge US economy with a constant appetite for skilled workers to service it. In a strange way...most Indians hope Americans remain as Americans so that they can keep creating more companies and Indians get to take the high paying service jobs for decades to come.
ganeshran Posted June 2, 2012 Posted June 2, 2012 Yaa, you guyz are good only at remembering thingz :beee:
Zelig Posted June 2, 2012 Posted June 2, 2012 :beer-bottle: We also abuse our biwis :beee: Long live the Irish pride! Aye!! :proud:
Zelch Posted June 2, 2012 Posted June 2, 2012 WSJ: Why Indian Americans are Best at Bees Mr. Singh says Indian American success in bees is probably due to four factors: the positive reinforcement effect; highly educated immigrant parents; the Indian educational systemÃÔ emphasis on rote learning; and the competitive advantage provided by the ÅÇarm leagues for South Asian American children{WTF is South Asian in this? When did Pakis deign upon this lowly "Madrasi" thing...they have other imp stuff like taking our Amreeka one cab at a time}, such as North South Foundation. Mr. Singh believes that it is also the enthusiasm and passion of the children themselves that complements parental pressure to succeed. żB]The first generation immigrant parent brings with her/him a set of memories about how education works and what is to be valued. For Indians that is a memory of endless class tests doled out on a regular basis to evaluate our ability to retrieve information spellings of words, names of world capitals, cash crops of states, length of rivers, height of mountains, and a plethora of minutiae charmingly labeled as General Knowledge, adds Sharmila Sen, who taught English at Harvard University and is currently executive editor at the Harvard University Press. Ūn America, we find out that our children are educated at the secondary level in a radically different way [to in India]. So, when we find out about the great American tradition of the bee, we think we can assimilate as well as anyone, she told IRT. Ms. Sen believes that Indian American parents encourage kids to process information in a way we were once encouraged to do, and we value the rewards that come with that form of information processing. Will this continue? Will third and fourth generation immigrant children be as successful? Ū think the trend of Indian American spelling champs may last a few more years as the current generation of Indian immigrant families from the tech-boom of the 1990s and 2000s matures. Since I think the immigrant status of the parents is a crucial factor in the success of Indian American children in the spelling bee, I suspect that the children of these spellers may not continue the tradition, says Mr. Singh. Wsj: http://blogs.wsj.com/indiarealtime/2012/06/02/why-indian-americans-are-best-at-bees/
Crookbond Posted June 2, 2012 Posted June 2, 2012 Another Indian American kid wins the spelling bee.. I sometimes feel a little offended when someone writes "Indian American". Why should Indians (or Americans) take credit for Americans (or Indians) ? I just feel it a bit wrong. Is Snigdha Indian or American or can she be both?
akshayxyz Posted June 2, 2012 Posted June 2, 2012 Surprise Surprise ..She wants to become a NeuroSurgeon Dads a Computer Engineer.. Can you repeat the pronunciation please? Can I have the etymology please? Can I have another hint please? . . . Can you repeat the pronunciation please? The word is 'N','e','u','r','o','S','u','r','g','e','o','n'. Yes, I that is what I want to become - a "NeuroSurgeon".
ganeshran Posted June 2, 2012 Posted June 2, 2012 I sometimes feel a little offended when someone writes "Indian American". Why should Indians (or Americans) take credit for Americans (or Indians) ? I just feel it a bit wrong. Is Snigdha Indian or American or can she be both? No one is taking credit for her success neither should anyone (except herself if she wants) take offence at being called Indian American. She is an American of Indian descent and her ethnicity is relevant here since the theme of the thread is a disproportionate success that Indian American kids enjoy at the spelling bee and whether it serves a useful purpose.
Crookbond Posted June 2, 2012 Posted June 2, 2012 No one is taking credit for her success neither should anyone (except herself if she wants) take offence at being called Indian American. She is an American of Indian descent and her ethnicity is relevant here since the theme of the thread is a disproportionate success that Indian American kids enjoy at the spelling bee and whether it serves a useful purpose. I wasn't talking about this thread or spelling bee in particular but the way media reports American achievements of Indian descent people as "Indian".
CandyFloss Posted June 3, 2012 Posted June 3, 2012 You had me at your impeccable spelling and correct use of grammar.
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