asterix Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 ^ That's why I said there needs to be greater 'backlash' against these BCCI goons..Some sort of heckling, gherao etc.. Unless that happens, the goons will be busy counting bags of money in the basement of BCCI HQ.. Link to comment
msb1991 Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 Fast bowlers: Vinay Kumar Sudeep Tyagi Jaydev Unadkat Pankaj Singh Umesh Yadav Deepak Chahar Varun Aaron Dhawal Kulkarni Bhuvnesh Kumar Unadkat and Aaron need at least one good Ranji Trophy season before they can be considered on the fringes of selection. Of course, Unadkat was gifted a Test cap, but I'd think most of us would agree that was a mistake. Chahar is also yet to prove he is not a one season wonder - I'd suspect someone who swings the ball as much as he does well always get wickets though, but I'd doubt he will ever have much pace if his main weapon is massive amounts of swing. If he could get up to bowling consistently at 130kph (which, as far as I'm aware, he is 5-10kph short of, most of the time) then he could be a good prospect. Yadav is still also a little short of fully proving himself domestically. I'd be interested to know what your views on Kulkarni are. He has had a quiet last couple years, but has not done too badly, just seems to have played in pacer unfriendly conditions a lot of the time so has not got many overs. Having watched him bowl, he does seem Test quality to me. He has a good controlled action, enough pace and gets a bit of bounce and seam. Link to comment
nsareen Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 Unadkat and Aaron need at least one good Ranji Trophy season before they can be considered on the fringes of selection. Of course, Unadkat was gifted a Test cap, but I'd think most of us would agree that was a mistake. Chahar is also yet to prove he is not a one season wonder - I'd suspect someone who swings the ball as much as he does well always get wickets though, but I'd doubt he will ever have much pace if his main weapon is massive amounts of swing. If he could get up to bowling consistently at 130kph (which, as far as I'm aware, he is 5-10kph short of, most of the time) then he could be a good prospect. Yadav is still also a little short of fully proving himself domestically. I'd be interested to know what your views on Kulkarni are. He has had a quiet last couple years, but has not done too badly, just seems to have played in pacer unfriendly conditions a lot of the time so has not got many overs. Having watched him bowl, he does seem Test quality to me. He has a good controlled action, enough pace and gets a bit of bounce and seam. He is one for domestic cricket, he does not have international standard pace, and one who does not have pace should have swing, he does not have both. Link to comment
msb1991 Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 He is one for domestic cricket' date=' he does not have international standard pace, and one who does not have pace should have swing, he does not have both.[/quote'] He seems to be over 130kph more often than not... [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Coued0eNaw]Dhawal Kulkarni to Michael Lumb - YouTube[/ame] [ame= Kulkarni to Faiz Fazal - YouTube[/ame] [ame= Kulkarni to Aditya Dole - YouTube[/ame] [ame= Kulkarni to Abhishek Jhunjhunwala - YouTube[/ame] [ame= Kulkarni to Faiz Fazal - YouTube[/ame] But then it is possible, as for most bowlers, that he is quickest in T20. Link to comment
rkt.india Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 Unadkat and Aaron need at least one good Ranji Trophy season before they can be considered on the fringes of selection. Of course, Unadkat was gifted a Test cap, but I'd think most of us would agree that was a mistake. Chahar is also yet to prove he is not a one season wonder - I'd suspect someone who swings the ball as much as he does well always get wickets though, but I'd doubt he will ever have much pace if his main weapon is massive amounts of swing. If he could get up to bowling consistently at 130kph (which, as far as I'm aware, he is 5-10kph short of, most of the time) then he could be a good prospect. Yadav is still also a little short of fully proving himself domestically. I'd be interested to know what your views on Kulkarni are. He has had a quiet last couple years, but has not done too badly, just seems to have played in pacer unfriendly conditions a lot of the time so has not got many overs. Having watched him bowl, he does seem Test quality to me. He has a good controlled action, enough pace and gets a bit of bounce and seam. he looks good. best thing is, he has a good uncomplicated action and can move the ball. Instead of Vinay, he should have been in emerging tournament. He did bowl at a good pace in IPL, but if he needs to show it in domestic cricket. He can still improve on his action which will help him improve his action. he does not have much forward jump while delivering the ball like Styen has. his action looks similar to Steyn. Link to comment
nsareen Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 he looks good. best thing is, he has a good uncomplicated action and can move the ball. Instead of Vinay, he should have been in emerging tournament. He did bowl at a good pace in IPL, but if he needs to show it in domestic cricket. He can still improve on his action which will help him improve his action. he does not have much forward jump while delivering the ball like Styen has. his action looks similar to Steyn. Absolutely not, he looks more like a slower version of Dwane Bravo to me. Link to comment
rkt.india Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 Absolutely not' date=' he looks more like a slower version of Dwane Bravo to me.[/quote'] bravo is slower than him. Link to comment
CG Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 He seams the ball which is a good skill to have and has bowled in the 130,s in domestic cricket of what I have seen on neo Link to comment
saneindian Posted August 12, 2011 Author Share Posted August 12, 2011 Kulkarni got injured during the IPL and has recovered only recently. Link to comment
rkt.india Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 He seams the ball which is a good skill to have and has bowled in the 130' date='s in domestic cricket of what I have seen on neo[/quote'] yes he brings it in and out, both ways Link to comment
nsareen Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 WTF is happening to you folks , can't you find any other bowler to discuss except Kulkarni. Damn!! , we can't get over some things. He is a nobody and would stay a domestic bully. Bringing bowl in and out, that's all crap for a bowler like him. Munaf is a better seamer than him. Munaf is faster than him, Munaf is taller than him. If Munaf has not set the Stage on fire, what makes you think he can?? Link to comment
Blue Panther Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 Yeah kulkarni is 2nd version of vinay kumar who hardly touches 130s Link to comment
msb1991 Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 We won't know that Dhawal and Vinay are poor or good until we play them in a Test. It is not as if Sreesanth and Munaf give them much competition with their performances. Link to comment
Malcolm Merlyn Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 Yadav should have played that test in place of Unadkat....... Havent seen Suyal bowl....but has heard good things about him. We need to give these players chance in AUS SA ENG and not on flat tracks of india. Link to comment
kabira Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 Kulkarni was top wicket taker couple of seasons ago. Lets see what he does this season. I actually like him..he can do both ways. :) Link to comment
nsareen Posted August 13, 2011 Share Posted August 13, 2011 http://stats.espncricinfo.com/emerging-players-tournament-2011/engine/records/batting/most_runs_career.html?class=14;id=6593;type=tournament Average of 500+ , this hendricks looks something.... what say ? Only 21 yrs of age Link to comment
nsareen Posted August 13, 2011 Share Posted August 13, 2011 Manoj Tiwary right in the top run getters list. :aha: I like this guy, i think he is a very good player, needs to be given more chances. Link to comment
CG Posted August 13, 2011 Share Posted August 13, 2011 Manoj Tiwary right in the top run getters list. :aha: I like this guy, i think he is a very good player, needs to be given more chances. Another can,t play the short ball player, he is bounced by domestic bowlers ! Link to comment
nsareen Posted August 13, 2011 Share Posted August 13, 2011 Another can' date='t play the short ball player, he is bounced by domestic bowlers ![/quote'] :WTF: You must be kidding, dude he is one of the best players in domestic circuit to play the short balls well. Link to comment
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