CSK Fan Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 well..did i say the rapist is justfiied...its just that you are making yourself a target and attracting attention towards urself.. rapist is depraved and probably would attack anyone. why make yourself his vicitm? in the end a rapist is a person unable to control his sexual urges. why fan them unnecessarily? its like putting oil on fire. the fire is already bad..its just making it worse. Can you give me any proof that rape, molestation, etc happen more to girls who are not covered completely than to those who are dressed from head to toe? In fact statistics show the opposite, i.e, there is no link in the way in which a woman dresses and the likelihood of her being attacked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
straighttalk Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 Can you give me any proof that rape' date=' molestation, etc happen more to girls who are not covered completely than to those who are dressed from head to toe? In fact statistics show the opposite, i.e, there is no link in the way in which a woman dresses and the likelihood of her being attacked.[/quote'] unfortunately i dont have the statistics and neither do you have any..because I am sure there was no study done to prove it otherwise. however you have a point that for a depraved individual, looks or dress doesn't matter and he is just waiting for an opportunity. in general, educated modern well to do girls are perhaps more secured and hence they might be safer. but if an opportunity arises, a rapist is bound to choose the one he finds more attractive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
straighttalk Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 Very valid point indeed, I must say :hatsoff: In the same breadth, why do people ever become rich? Its just that they’re making themselves a target of thieves and robbers. A thief is simply looking for someone to rob, why make yourself a victim? :dontknow: Just like how all women must walk around in astronaut suits to ward off rapists, I suggest that we all stay poor and scrounge around for food. That way, there's no way anyone can be robbed, EVER! :yay: very valid point indeed..by becoming rich you are attracting attention and u might get robbed..u are not to be blamed and the thief deserved to be punished. but due to ur opulence and the brazen show off..you might get hurt. you can tone that display a little and be safer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
achilles Posted August 3, 2011 Share Posted August 3, 2011 straighttalk, Ram, MTC... Clash of the generations, if you can call it that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
straighttalk Posted August 3, 2011 Share Posted August 3, 2011 straighttalk' date=' Ram, MTC... Clash of the generations, if you can call it that way.[/quote'] haha..it does come out that way but I am 26..belong to the 90s era though...tbqh..i appreciate the dressing sense of women..however in a country like India..it is better to be prudent. is it ideal..probably no but better safe than sorry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram Posted August 3, 2011 Share Posted August 3, 2011 straighttalk' date=' Ram, MTC... Clash of the generations, if you can call it that way.[/quote'] Dude, there’s nothing generational about saying that Rapists are provoked into their dastardly actions by skimpily clad women. If you don’t believe that, go look at the Per Capita Rape instances all over the world. The countries with some of the highest occurrences of rapes and sexual assault of women are those that are generally conservative. Do you agree that the women’s attire in place like US and Europe are pretty liberal? And yet, they have some of the lowest Per Capita Rape occurrences. So there goes the ‘Oh well, the ladies should dress prudently and stop provoking the predators..’ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganeshran Posted August 3, 2011 Share Posted August 3, 2011 haha..it does come out that way but I am 26..belong to the 90s era though...tbqh..i appreciate the dressing sense of women..however in a country like India..it is better to be prudent. is it ideal..probably no but better safe than sorry Like Ram said, there is no correlation between the style of a woman's clothing to the chances of her getting raped. Women avoiding going alone late at night would be a precaution (which itself is not fair), but dressing "prudently" has got absolutely nothing to do with the issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
straighttalk Posted August 3, 2011 Share Posted August 3, 2011 Dude, there’s nothing generational about saying that Rapists are provoked into their dastardly actions by skimpily clad women. If you don’t believe that, go look at the Per Capita Rape instances all over the world. The countries with some of the highest occurrences of rapes and sexual assault of women are those that are generally conservative. Do you agree that the women’s attire in place like US and Europe are pretty liberal? And yet, they have some of the lowest Per Capita Rape occurrences. So there goes the ‘Oh well, the ladies should dress prudently and stop provoking the predators..’ i agree completely but they are also used to it right from their childhood..its not a big deal. again you are mistaking my opinion as skimpily clad women are responsible for rape. I am just saying between a skimpily clad woman and a conservative woman, the former attracts more attention and hence has higher probability of facing rape. its same as taking some precautions. if you are travelling alone, working late hours, stay alone... be a little careful. i am not saying that u shdnt wear this or that..rather who doesnt appreciate a little skin show. it's just that you gotta be careful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prakat Posted August 3, 2011 Share Posted August 3, 2011 @straighttalk I understand that you are coming from a pragmatic point of view. Which every individual can choose to accept as they see fit. But as a society, are we beholden to be pulled back by the actions and values of the lowest common denominator or do we owe it to ourselves to push forward and evolve to a better and brighter state? From your comments, I see that you too agree that women being free to wear what they want in public without being molested is the way forward. And that is exactly what acts and movements like these aim to do. The intent is to let women know that it is ok, that the public space is a public trust and they should demand that they be able to use it without endangering their safety and personal rights. It is to show these offenders that they are in fact, wrong, and that a well-shaped butt in a tight pair of jeans, while worth a look, is not there to be pinched. To not put up this fight would be to give in to barbarianism. A steady decline to a state where it will be impossible for women to walk outside tomorrow, without a galaband, and the day after without a male relative as escort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSK Fan Posted August 3, 2011 Share Posted August 3, 2011 @straighttalk I understand that you are coming from a pragmatic point of view. Which every individual can choose to accept as they see fit. But as a society, are we beholden to be pulled back by the actions and values of the lowest common denominator or do we owe it to ourselves to push forward and evolve to a better and brighter state? From your comments, I see that you too agree that women being free to wear what they want in public without being molested is the way forward. And that is exactly what acts and movements like these aim to do. The intent is to let women know that it is ok, that the public space is a public trust and they should demand that they be able to use it without endangering their safety and personal rights. It is to show these offenders that they are in fact, wrong, and that a well-shaped butt in a tight pair of jeans, while worth a look, is not there to be pinched. To not put up this fight would be to give in to barbarianism. A steady decline to a state where it will be impossible for women to walk outside tomorrow, without a galaband, and the day after without a male relative as escort. I think this post should end the thread. Very nicely put. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f.b.m Posted August 3, 2011 Share Posted August 3, 2011 I'm not going to enter into the 'I'm not saying that the women are asking for it .... but they're just asking for it' argument but I dont get the idea of this ****walk thing. What kind of tangible change will a bunch of women or activists walking around with messages make a rapist reconsider? Where is the link between this walk and reducing the prevalence of rape? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
straighttalk Posted August 4, 2011 Share Posted August 4, 2011 @straighttalk I understand that you are coming from a pragmatic point of view. Which every individual can choose to accept as they see fit. But as a society, are we beholden to be pulled back by the actions and values of the lowest common denominator or do we owe it to ourselves to push forward and evolve to a better and brighter state? From your comments, I see that you too agree that women being free to wear what they want in public without being molested is the way forward. And that is exactly what acts and movements like these aim to do. The intent is to let women know that it is ok, that the public space is a public trust and they should demand that they be able to use it without endangering their safety and personal rights. It is to show these offenders that they are in fact, wrong, and that a well-shaped butt in a tight pair of jeans, while worth a look, is not there to be pinched. To not put up this fight would be to give in to barbarianism. A steady decline to a state where it will be impossible for women to walk outside tomorrow, without a galaband, and the day after without a male relative as escort. i agree with what you are saying...but I don't think its going to happen in the near future..rape is a primal thing which has been there since the birth of human society..since we are sexual beings and deviants are everywhere. as a society I believe a stringent punishment could act as a better deterrent rather than the more holistic approach that you are espousing. once the consequences are worse than the five minutes of pleasure and its widely publicized, i guess it would lower the incidence rate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSK Fan Posted August 4, 2011 Share Posted August 4, 2011 I'm not going to enter into the 'I'm not saying that the women are asking for it .... but they're just asking for it' argument but I dont get the idea of this ****walk thing. What kind of tangible change will a bunch of women or activists walking around with messages make a rapist reconsider? Where is the link between this walk and reducing the prevalence of rape? The walk is not aimed at the people who actually molest, etc, but the society who tries to take the guy's side by stating that 'she was asking for it', etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crookbond Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 Rising **** walk among non-muslim girls http://indianmuslimpost.blogspot.in/2013/06/rising-indecent-****-walk-among-hindu.html Some typical misogynistic and racial comments on **** Walk in this blog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger80 Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 Rising **** walk among non-muslim girls http://indianmuslimpost.blogspot.in/2013/06/rising-indecent-****-walk-among-hindu.html Some typical misogynistic and racial comments on **** Walk in this blog. The intention of blogger looks to insult hinduism and their women Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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