Bdeshpatriot Posted August 5, 2011 Posted August 5, 2011 :icflove:thnkx numb.....guys like you make this icf really a fun-loving site..yep, u got me right....but its something like, when u see it everyone around u pouncing on u, it gets difficult to restrain and simply ignore..but yes.....i am not simply turning away from facts, and accepts our shortcomings.....and most of us are honest we aren't that good, but it hurts to see sometimes the reactions....something like grown up men ridiculing young boys still not matured....anyways, we'll continue cheering my team whoever says what :band:
pinkfreud Posted August 5, 2011 Posted August 5, 2011 They can only win in Cricket if its played with fish :woot: instead of a ball. Do unto others as you'd have them do unto you. Pinkfreud!
kabira Posted August 5, 2011 Posted August 5, 2011 If this bangladeshi team played in 60s and 70s they would won some games for sure. Those days flair was enough to win some games. These days you need flair and method to win games. No wonder Pakistan is struggling as well. India can go that route if we are not careful in our planning. So far we have planned it well in terms of support staff, academies etc.
Tiger80 Posted August 5, 2011 Author Posted August 5, 2011 To produce a decent quality cricket team, you need a good domestic structure with proper coaching from sub junior level. Because the game is more expensive to play than Soccer and also tougher to learn the basics and details. That's why India, SL and Pak took a while to produce a quality team and its harder for new countries to produce a good team. Same with Bangladesh. The important thing is there is a lot of interest and passion for cricket in Bangladesh which will always produce talent. I think its just a matter of time before we see a decent quality Bangladesh test side provided they are groomed and managed well. Agree with it that's why I am comparing BD with Zimbabwe .Just google the political conditions of Zim in 2000s and you will know that what kind of horrible situation Zimbabwe has been.If the Zimbabwe have been prosperous like South Africa they could easily have been one of the top team of world
Tiger80 Posted August 5, 2011 Author Posted August 5, 2011 Thats it guys......thats it....i accept we've sucked.....but its really unfortunate that more than often' date=' we dont get the credit we deserve.....just a single bad innings or bad day, and critics focus on our lowlights, and tend to forget the improvements we've made....just one single bad day....and all this!.....but yea, i am accepting overall, we've sucked....and its abt time, we defeat teams ranked above us.....no longer any stupid excuses even from us....this test, followed by home series against wi and pak.....we gotta win atleast a test against each...and am hopeful, coz everyone tends to neglect how we've pushed the teams in test matches for the past couple of yrs on a consistent basis...God willing, if what I told were to happen that we win a test against both pak and wi, and even then if people criticize abt our test status, then surely, we'll be able to figure out the black sheep, coz they exist in every community....peace[/quote'] This thread is is not about to insult Bangladesh .It is about to find genuine reasons why your game is not improving.At present level of test cricket has declined everywhere including India It is a good opportunity for you to raise level and become a good quality team. Also this is not about a single day.Please tell me what kind of players you have produced which have created fear in opposition .Barring Shakib al hasan no other player look good to me. No fast bowlers,swingers,spinners ,batsmen
Jayaram_IND Posted August 5, 2011 Posted August 5, 2011 Feeel that bangladesh could improve if they play more overseas tours to good quality teams.Playing tournaments with zimbabwe wont help you learn much.(im not saying dont play them but also play other teams).More players should play in english counties so that the can improve thier technique.Also playing away tours against A teams of strong countries more fequently also helps.Just my opinion.
Mariyam Posted August 5, 2011 Posted August 5, 2011 I think BD fans are over reacting. You guys haven't made any notable strides in Test Cricket, but in ODIs and 20-20 you are pretty much up there with the rest. Your side has the capability to beat any other ODI and 20-20 side on a given day. I saw a few of your games this WC. Speaking from an ODI perspective, Tamim is kind of taken for granted. Thugh he didn't do much in this WC. If he was made to feel insecure about his position, maybe he would start producing the required results.
Tiger80 Posted August 5, 2011 Author Posted August 5, 2011 I think BD fans are over reacting. You guys haven't made any notable strides in Test Cricket, but in ODIs and 20-20 you are pretty much up there with the rest. Your side has the capability to beat any other ODI and 20-20 side on a given day. I saw a few of your games this WC. Speaking from an ODI perspective, Tamim is kind of taken for granted. Thugh he didn't do much in this WC. If he was made to feel insecure about his position, maybe he would start producing the required results. Oh come On BD was unable to qualify for quarter finals of world cup despite all their matches played on home ground
Jayaram_IND Posted August 5, 2011 Posted August 5, 2011 Oh come On BD was unable to qualify for quarter finals of world cup despite all their matches played on home ground I think this world cup was the best chance for bangladesh to show the world that they are a top team especially in home conditions.It was their inconsistency that cost them the wc.
Tiger80 Posted August 5, 2011 Author Posted August 5, 2011 I think this world cup was the best chance for bangladesh to show the world that they are a top team especially in home conditions.It was their inconsistency that cost them the wc. Both India and windies mauled them which killed their run rate and windies with same points qualified.No other good team would have allowed it
Jayaram_IND Posted August 5, 2011 Posted August 5, 2011 Both India and windies mauled them which killed their run rate and windies with same points qualified.No other good team would have allowed it They lost to india but i thought they came back well against ireland and england.But just when they looked good they got mauled by WI.I think Bangladesh need a better pace bowling attack.They emphasise too much on spin.They sometimes bowl 40 of the 50 ovrs with spinners.This might be an attacking option in Bangladesh but you need to have a more multi dimentional attack to do well oversees and on a consistent basis.They need better fast bowlers and for me except Masrafee no one else seems to be potent in all conditions.
Jayaram_IND Posted August 5, 2011 Posted August 5, 2011 Does Bangladesh have any upcoming young fast bowler?thats what they need not another left arm spinner.
Tiger80 Posted August 5, 2011 Author Posted August 5, 2011 They lost to india but i thought they came back well against ireland and england.But just when they looked good they got mauled by WI.I think Bangladesh need a better pace bowling attack.They emphasise too much on spin.They sometimes bowl 40 of the 50 ovrs with spinners.This might be an attacking option in Bangladesh but you need to have a more multi dimentional attack to do well oversees and on a consistent basis.They need better fast bowlers and for me except Masrafee no one else seems to be potent in all conditions. They were about to loose against Ireland as Ireland only required 55 runs in 80 balls with 5 wickets in hand.Their only acheivement was against England but that win too came by narrow margin.In tournaments where run rate matter you cannot afford to loose by big margin and win by narrow margin
Jayaram_IND Posted August 5, 2011 Posted August 5, 2011 They were about to loose against Ireland as Ireland only required 55 runs in 80 balls with 5 wickets in hand.Their only acheivement was against England but that win too came by narrow margin.In tournaments where run rate matter you cannot afford to loose by big margin and win by narrow margin I dont know why you are too critical.Give them more time and exposure.You have a world class alrounder an attacking opener and a quality spinner.Only thing missing is an attacking fast bowler and maybe another good middle order bat.How good is mahmudullah as a batsman?he performed well against india.
Bdeshpatriot Posted August 5, 2011 Posted August 5, 2011 Mahmudullah is the kind of test batsman we need, had a test century in kiwiland...and with a bradmanesque average in home series against ind in 2010......got an avergae of 37....and its likely he'll better his avergae than the present one...he's been one of the more consistent performers in our doemstic first class competition...
Jayaram_IND Posted August 5, 2011 Posted August 5, 2011 Mahmudullah is the kind of test batsman we need' date=' had a test century in kiwiland...and with a bradmanesque average in home series against ind in 2010......got an avergae of 37....and its likely he'll better his avergae than the present one...he's been one of the more consistent performers in our doemstic first class competition...[/quote'] He looks a good batsman but i wasnt impressed with his bowling against india.Hope he becomes a quality bat for bangladesh.Also any upcoming fast bowlers in bangladesh?would like to know and i dont know why you guys play so many left arm spinners?
DomainK Posted August 5, 2011 Posted August 5, 2011 This is some seriously disappointing performance from Bangladesh. How can they play like this against a team that hasn't played test cricket for six years?
DomainK Posted August 5, 2011 Posted August 5, 2011 The problem is that if Bangladesh pulls back even for a draw from here, the fans and the players will be satisfied. They have been happy with small achievements among big disasters, so they will never get past the small achievements among big disasters.
Bdeshpatriot Posted August 5, 2011 Posted August 5, 2011 The problem is that if Bangladesh pulls back even for a draw from here' date=' the fans and the players will be satisfied. They have been happy with small achievements among big disasters, so they will never get past the small achievements among big disasters.[/quote'] bro...that was the case maybe a couple of years back....things are no longer the same.....our cricketers are nowadays no dofferent than the stardom indian cricketers enjoy in thier country....sponsors, ad shoots....money....they've got it all.....after some good encouraging peroformances beginning from 2010, they've all had a meteoric rise in terms of celebrity status....the same way...fans have also raised their expectations cause they expect them to perform like world class stars...but the fact is we havent reached there yet...trust me, thats the only reason why we collapsed like 58 ao and 78 ao...i mean i cant explain u guys what was the burden like.....indian cricket team is blessed to have cricketers like tendulkar, yuvraj....they've seen it all, and have learnt...for us, it was a first kind of experience....hopefully, they'll learn, just like how india learnt after coming so close yet so far, like in 1996, and 2003.....
Cricket Tragic Posted August 5, 2011 Posted August 5, 2011 Yeah, there was an article about Shakib on Cricinfo about whether he is capable of handling the attention. There has been talk about Tamim taking things for granted after becoming a "star".
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