CG Posted September 12, 2011 Posted September 12, 2011 No I disagree..compare and see them at same speeds with Malinga and Edwards and you will find the difference. Short bowlers look quicker to eyes because of low trajectory and less distance to cover for the ball. A ball has to cover less distance when a short bowler at 5'10" delivers a fuller length ball while ball will have to travel more distance when a bowl at 6'6" delivers it at fuller length. Ball will cover short distance in quick time and bowl will look quicker while a tall bowler will loose less pace of the pitch when pitched short of length and will be quicker when facing the ball as it will lose less pace after pitching in comparison to a short bowler who will have to pitch it too short. when they bowl yorkers it may seem so but i have seen many comparison of bowlers where taller bowlers loose less pace off the pitch ,so they will be quicker and i said i trust cricinfo speeds more than crappy star cricket speed guns.But yaar you jump the gun too quickly wait till he bowls 2-3 matches consistently at 145 + then we can talk.
rkt.india Posted September 12, 2011 Author Posted September 12, 2011 when they bowl yorkers it may seem so but i have seen many comparison of bowlers where taller bowlers loose less pace off the pitch ' date='so they will be quicker and i said i trust cricinfo speeds more than crappy star cricket speed guns.But yaar you jump the gun too quickly wait till he bowls 2-3 matches consistently at 145 + then we can talk.[/quote'] yes taller bowlers loose less pace that is why they are tough to face, but to naked eyes short bowlers look quick at the same pace to a taller bowler. Example of Malinga and Edwards to Ishant and Morkel are there to see.
Crookbond Posted September 12, 2011 Posted September 12, 2011 yes taller bowlers loose less pace that is why they are tough to face' date='[b'] but to naked eyes short bowlers look quick at the same pace to a taller bowler. Example of Malinga and Edwards to Ishant and Morkel are there to see. Is it because of the skid of the surface rather than them hitting the deck?
TheYuvi02 Posted September 12, 2011 Posted September 12, 2011 yes taller bowlers loose less pace that is why they are tough to face' date=' but [b']to naked eyes short bowlers look quick at the same pace to a taller bowler. Example of Malinga and Edwards to Ishant and Morkel are there to see. true for me, even though edwards is a lot quicker than ishant lol
Serani Posted September 12, 2011 Posted September 12, 2011 Michael Holding on commentary said he went to watch the game from side on in the grandstand and couldnt see the ball when Finn bowled.
CG Posted September 12, 2011 Posted September 12, 2011 Michael Holding on commentary said he went to watch the game from side on in the grandstand and couldnt see the ball when Finn bowled. Finally age is catching up with mikey.any ways side on angle is best to watch fast bowling.
achilles Posted September 12, 2011 Posted September 12, 2011 He bowled quite well. But can be a crackpot like Mitchell Johnson if not controlled.
CG Posted September 12, 2011 Posted September 12, 2011 He bowled quite well. But can be a crackpot like Mitchell Johnson if not controlled. johnson has stamina and is really quick,finn is not that quick ,finn is accurate than johnson because of his action.
CG Posted September 12, 2011 Posted September 12, 2011 malinga looks quicker because batsmen struggle to pick his action hence are late on the ball which makes him look quicker , i dont think short bowlers on a whole looks quicker than taller bowlers of similar pace what pace is fast medium accordng to u ? as far as that u19 wc there was only 1 match which was shown maybe he didnt bowl well in that match so didnt impress but he certainly could touch 140k even at u19 level. though finn yesterday was quick but if he bowls day in day out his pace will be like broads ie 130-145 range In county he is 130 km/h .
Serani Posted September 12, 2011 Posted September 12, 2011 How do you know how quick he is in county? I saw one 40 over game and he was bowling 90 MPH there aswell.
CG Posted September 12, 2011 Posted September 12, 2011 How do you know how quick he is in county? I saw one 40 over game and he was bowling 90 MPH there aswell. i meant he was 130km/h when he started answering to the above poster who did not believe he was 130 in u19 days
CG Posted September 12, 2011 Posted September 12, 2011 i donno which match u been watching ' date='finn coulds clock130 when he was 14yrs old[/quote'] Rubbish.I have followed finn from his u19 days and even in first class he was 130 - 137 ,in ashes he was 130-138.he bowled 145 +in one odi in aus and yesterday he bowled 140 and touched 150.but that's just a match he has to bowl 140+ in all conditions first .
saneindian Posted September 12, 2011 Posted September 12, 2011 Hope they pick him and play him in all 5 ODIs in India. Viru, Gauti, Yuvi and Raina will love spanking him into the stands.
CG Posted September 12, 2011 Posted September 12, 2011 Hope they pick him and play him in all 5 ODIs in India. Viru' date=' Gauti, Yuvi and Raina will love spanking him into the stands.[/quote'] He will not play in india as english management knows he will get hammered and loose his confidence.
express bowling Posted September 12, 2011 Posted September 12, 2011 Rubbish.I have followed finn from his u19 days and even in first class he was 130 - 137 ' date='[b']in ashes he was 130-138. he bowled 145 +in one odi in aus and yesterday he bowled 140 and touched 150.but that's just a match he has to bowl 140+ in all conditions first . That is correct bro. Finn bowled 130 - 138k in the ashes and looked like a medium fast swing bowler who floated he ball, but was bowling 138-142 the next time I saw him some time later. Yesterday he bowled between 142 to 152 k. Whether he has actually increased his average speed or he is doing an Ashish Nehra remains to be seen, the next series will tell. But I liked him as a bowler. The guy has potential.
Serani Posted September 12, 2011 Posted September 12, 2011 In the ashes Finn had to bowl all day in the heat after Broad got injured, of course he will not be steaming in.
express bowling Posted September 12, 2011 Posted September 12, 2011 I hope the same logic is applied to Ishant Sharma who was bowling 5kph slower than the previous Windies test series ( where he was touching 145 k often ) because he had an ankle injury and in 2 matches zaheer and harbhjan were injured. Sadly that logic is missing then.
CG Posted September 12, 2011 Posted September 12, 2011 I hope the same logic is applied to Ishant Sharma who was bowling 5kph slower than the previous Windies test series ( where he was touching 145 k often ) because he had an ankle injury and in 2 matches zaheer and harbhjan were injured. Sadly that logic is missing then. As I mentioned in previos posts hats off to ishant the guy ran in the whole series even after playing so tests in wi,look at bresnan and broad after playing 3 and 4 tests there speed has dropped to 130 even in odis where broad was quicker now he is injured.
express bowling Posted September 12, 2011 Posted September 12, 2011 As I mentioned in previos posts hats off to ishant the guy ran in the whole series even after playing so tests in wi' date='look at bresnan and broad after playing 3 and 4 tests there speed has dropped to 130 even in odis where broad was quicker now he is injured.[/quote'] Very true. Only you and a few others notice this fact. Pacers from other teams are often bowling 128- 132k average range in many spells. But the distinguished commentators, and some fans also, compare the fastest ball of a foreigner with the slowest ball by an Indian. Broad becomes a 146k bowler and Sreesanth becomes a 127 k bowler. This is a very unscientific approach.
CricketGirl Posted September 12, 2011 Posted September 12, 2011 That is true. Here is a picture I look at Lord's this summer. lol i have loads of pics of our under 9's to under 11's at our home ground with Finny!! he's a top lad looking forward to seeing more good cricket from him!!
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