GautiMaan Posted April 16, 2012 Posted April 16, 2012 quality batsmen we do seem to produce in plenty,poor guys will have their work cut-out chasing 400+ totals
CG Posted April 17, 2012 Posted April 17, 2012 quality batsmen we do seem to produce in plenty' date='poor guys will have their work cut-out chasing 400+ totals[/quote'] Are u dreaming? Our battign line up has failed o score 300 overseas and people still have delusions about our batting line up.Make these guys tour eng or aus they will agian fall like nine pins.
GautiMaan Posted April 17, 2012 Posted April 17, 2012 Are u dreaming? Our battign line up has failed o score 300 overseas and people still have delusions about our batting line up.Make these guys tour eng or aus they will agian fall like nine pins. I was talking abt post#19,in which Chand scored heavily in an U19 tour in Australia against an attack which included Pat Cummins,are u saying he is not a quality batsman? Regardless of our recent failures,India has the best young batsmen in the world.Prove me wrong if u can.
CG Posted April 17, 2012 Posted April 17, 2012 I was talking abt post#19,in which Chand scored heavily in an U19 tour in Australia against an attack which included Pat Cummins,are u saying he is not a quality batsman? Regardless of our recent failures,India has the best young batsmen in the world.Prove me wrong if u can. Name a few who have done well in tests? answer nobody.
GautiMaan Posted April 17, 2012 Posted April 17, 2012 Name a few who have done well in tests? answer nobody. Aha,i was talking abt ODI's which is why is said they would have to chase 400+ scores bcoz of our bowling. As for tests,no one(other than virat) has been given a long run,so its too early to say i think:dontknow:
Sidhoni Posted April 17, 2012 Posted April 17, 2012 Great performance in the quadrangular series :two_thumbs_up:
The Outsider Posted April 17, 2012 Posted April 17, 2012 Aha,i was talking abt ODI's which is why is said they would have to chase 400+ scores bcoz of our bowling. As for tests,no one(other than virat) has been given a long run,so its too early to say i think:dontknow: Yuvraj, Raina, Kaif, Mukund - what's a long run for you - keep playing someone ?
GautiMaan Posted April 17, 2012 Posted April 17, 2012 Yuvraj' date=' Raina, Kaif, Mukund - what's a long run for you - keep playing someone ?[/quote'] Yuvi,Raina-both more suited for ODI's,wrongly selected for tests Kaif-Must not be mentioned in the same sentence Mukund-still deserves more chances I was thinking more abt rahane,pujara,virat and rohit-these guys are the future.Better wait till we say all our batsmen will be useless overseas
deathmonger Posted April 17, 2012 Posted April 17, 2012 Yuvraj' date=' Raina, Kaif, Mukund - what's a long run for you - keep playing someone ?[/quote'] giving chance to someone who avgs 50+ in fc for at least 7-8 matches. taht's long run. raina,yuvi,kaif were never very good batsmen in fc too. kohli was one that avgd 50+. given enough chances he's done well.
deathmonger Posted April 17, 2012 Posted April 17, 2012 Name a few who have done well in tests? answer nobody. kohli has got chance. he's done well. raina,yuvi were not good fc batsmen in domestic even.
CG Posted April 17, 2012 Posted April 17, 2012 kohli has got chance. he's done well. raina' date='yuvi were not good fc batsmen in domestic even.[/quote'] Kohli averages 32 and that too after playing 3 tests at home ,It is by no means good performance.
CG Posted April 17, 2012 Posted April 17, 2012 Aha,i was talking abt ODI's which is why is said they would have to chase 400+ scores bcoz of our bowling. As for tests,no one(other than virat) has been given a long run,so its too early to say i think:dontknow: You do nto judge a young batsman in odis you do in tests.
deathmonger Posted April 17, 2012 Posted April 17, 2012 Kohli averages 32 and that too after playing 3 tests at home ' date='It is by no means good performance.[/quote'] he has played one test at home. he hit twin fifties. so he avgs 50+ at home. get your facts right. he debuted on very difficult pitches in which laxman and dravid were struggling. even if he was struggling in the beginning, his knocks in perth and adelaide have shown he can adapt and he did well against a good attack when seniors were failing. a average of 32 after 8 tests out of which 7 were away and on tricky pitches/against good pace attack is not bad. he'll soon bump that average to 45+.
GautiMaan Posted April 17, 2012 Posted April 17, 2012 You do nto judge a young batsman in odis you do in tests. So a good odi batsman has to be a good test batsmen too. In that case yuvi and raina can't be called good odi players,but most would disagree I never claimed chand will be good in tests,only that he's a quality player if he can hit cummins out of the attack
deathmonger Posted April 17, 2012 Posted April 17, 2012 So a good odi batsman has to be a good test batsmen too. In that case yuvi and raina can't be called good odi players,but most would disagree I never claimed chand will be good in tests,only that he's a quality player if he can hit cummins out of the attack chand also did well in the tourney in india which was on dustbowls. this kid aparajith took loads of wickets.
Cricket Tragic Posted April 17, 2012 Author Posted April 17, 2012 People underestimate how tough it is to find world class test batsmen.
deathmonger Posted April 17, 2012 Posted April 17, 2012 People underestimate how tough it is to find world class test batsmen. they want batsmen to be heroes from the beginning.
CG Posted April 17, 2012 Posted April 17, 2012 he has played one test at home. he hit twin fifties. so he avgs 50+ at home. get your facts right. he debuted on very difficult pitches in which laxman and dravid were struggling. even if he was struggling in the beginning, his knocks in perth and adelaide have shown he can adapt and he did well against a good attack when seniors were failing. a average of 32 after 8 tests out of which 7 were away and on tricky pitches/against good pace attack is not bad. he'll soon bump that average to 45+. my respinse was to gm statemant india has best young batting stars ,Yes he played only one test at home,But still his performances away have been poor,At home yuvraj,raina also average more,The problem is what they do away.We have atbest kohli who has shown some signs but has a long way to go,and then nobody else is there so all this talk about we having so many good young batsman is rubbish.
CG Posted April 17, 2012 Posted April 17, 2012 they want batsmen to be heroes from the beginning. Why not ?If you expect bowlers to be heroes form the begining on flat surfaces.
deathmonger Posted April 17, 2012 Posted April 17, 2012 Why not ?If you expect bowlers to be heroes form the begining on flat surfaces. i don't. i have high expectations from umesh but even he has hardly set the world on fire. he has had some good performances and has high potential, same as kohli. ppl like vinny kumar and raina have no potential so I don't support them for tests. I do not understand your statement: Do you have some vendetta against Indian batsmen as ppl here criticize Indian bowlers?
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