zen Posted December 30, 2011 Share Posted December 30, 2011 In the absense of any response, we take the following: * Based on facing and doing well against better bowling attacks: Lara is the best test batsman of his generation vs Aus: McGrath+Warne vs Pak: Waqar+Wasim vs SA: Donald+Pollock vs SL: Murali+Vaas vs WI: Ambrose+Walsh M I No R Avg BCLara 36 68 3 3370 51.85 sWaugh 42 66 7 2745 46.53 Inzama 33 56 3 2365 44.62 Anwar 20 33 0 1402 42.48 Sachin 29 49 1 2020 42.08 mWaugh 39 63 2 2408 39.48 Flower 24 44 7 1396 37.73 Dravid 33 58 4 2034 37.67 * Based on the theory of evolution and how the greats have gone about: Bradman is the greatest For ref, see below: Bradman - 1928-1948 Hutton: 1937 - 1955 Sobers: 1954-1974 Richards: 1974-1991 Tendulkar: 1989-present case closed Link to comment
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bulbul Posted December 30, 2011 Share Posted December 30, 2011 I have never made personal attacks on Bradman. I perfectly understand his contributions to the game and the perspective in which to judge him. But don't expect me to simply follow the herd and bend down and acknowledge that he was the best ever batsman for all times and that he would have owned all bowlers had he played today. not only Bradman...our own legends like Dravid...just becuse someone else make some comments against Sach doesnt mean that we have to make a counterattack.. I have colleagues in office who are die hard Sach fans..one guy is even looks like he will be faint when Sach missed his 100 against WI.. But when we make some fun of Sach infront of them thy dont retort to counter attack by ridiculing Dravid or any other legends...this is becuase they also like others even if they feell Sachin is greatest. Thats what i understood..True fans dont do chepshots in order to prove the points...thats not Bending as you assume... .. Link to comment
zen Posted December 30, 2011 Share Posted December 30, 2011 Make sure that you post the ownage you got using your own stats ... Heres one for you today : Lara Avg vs these bowlers Away = 38 ( this is without having to face Amby,Walsh,Shoaib) SRT Avg vs these bowlers Away = 42 Enjoy your todays pwnage thru your own stat .. Theory of evolution applied to cricket ... thats a new one ... damn And I guess because you managed to post the above^, even if irrelevant, you are still in the debate ..... the debate proceeds not based on how much sense an argument makes but who responds last even if it is totally irrelevant stuff .... you think ppl don't understand your childsih games ..... As I had said, time for you to pay a visit to a shrink :hysterical: In real world, you would be laughed out of the room for posting such things :winky: It laughable that you started this thread to show something else .... This thread should be made sticky so whenever folks like you get the ugre to bring down a past great, you can refer to it quickly :P Link to comment
Gambit Posted December 30, 2011 Share Posted December 30, 2011 LOL, what a thread. Since everyone's a statistician, here's one from my side - The following batsmen against the best fast bowlers of their generation Ambrose Walsh Donald Pollock Steyn Wasim Waqar McGrath but AWAY from home - :winky: Tendulkar - 46 innings, 6 100s @46 Ponting - 19 innings,3 100s@42 Lara - 53 innings, 5 100s@38 Dravid - 37 innings, 1 100@32 Sehwag - 17 innings,1 100@27 Link to comment
zen Posted December 30, 2011 Share Posted December 30, 2011 EPILOGUE There was a famous quote by Shivaji "Ghad aya per Sher gaya" .... for the Sachin Fanatics wrt this thread, they can say "Ghad toh gaya per Sher bhi gaya" :hysterical: Link to comment
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bulbul Posted December 30, 2011 Share Posted December 30, 2011 And I guess because you managed to post the above^' date=' even if irrelevant, you are still in the debate ..... the debate proceeds not based on how much sense an argument makes but who responds last even if it is totally irrelevant stuff .... [u']you think ppl don't understand your childsih games ..... As I had said, time for you to pay a visit to a shrink :hysterical: In real world, you would be laughed out of the room for posting such things :winky: It laughable that you started this thread to show something else .... This thread should be made sticky so whenever folks like you get the ugre to bring down a past great, you can refer to it quickly :P rett bhai why cant you put more details about your stat and done with it.. That will help you in proving your point and avoiding accusation.. I dont think away or home really matters...great batsmen against great bowlers any where.. Even these stats may be skewed becuase of ground condition.. Link to comment
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bulbul Posted December 30, 2011 Share Posted December 30, 2011 LOL, what a thread. Since everyone's a statistician, here's one from my side - The following batsmen against the best fast bowlers of their generation Ambrose Walsh Donald Pollock Steyn Wasim Waqar McGrath but AWAY from home - :winky: Tendulkar - 46 innings, 6 100s @46 Ponting - 19 innings,3 100s@42 Lara - 53 innings, 5 100s@38 Dravid - 37 innings, 1 100@32 Sehwag - 17 innings,1 100@27 same question again...without Each batsman to each bowler what does this Averages prove ? Link to comment
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Gambit Posted December 30, 2011 Share Posted December 30, 2011 B->same question again...without Each batsman to each bowler what does this Averages prove ? Learn to find answers for your own questions, son. Link to comment
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bulbul Posted December 30, 2011 Share Posted December 30, 2011 B-> Learn to find answers for your own questions, son. why you dont know ?... :you know which smiley: Link to comment
zen Posted December 30, 2011 Share Posted December 30, 2011 rett bhai why cant you put more details about your stat and done with it.. That will help you in proving your point and avoiding accusation.. I dont think away or home really matters...great batsmen against great bowlers any where.. Even these stats may be skewed becuase of ground condition.. vs Aus start working from the above link and see if you don't get similar numbers as in the table below ...." vs Aus: McGrath+Warne vs Pak: Waqar+Wasim vs SA: Donald+Pollock vs SL: Murali+Vaas vs WI: Ambrose+Walsh M I No R Avg BCLara 36 68 3 3370 51.85 sWaugh 42 66 7 2745 46.53 Inzama 33 56 3 2365 44.62 Anwar 20 33 0 1402 42.48 Sachin 29 49 1 2020 42.08 mWaugh 39 63 2 2408 39.48 Flower 24 44 7 1396 37.73 Dravid 33 58 4 2034 37.67 The point was that SRT>DBG because SRT faced better bowling attack and there is no proof that DBG can adjust to modern standards Now when we take Sachin's peers and the bowling attacks most of them faced, we get the above table. (Showing avg against respective teams when two of their best bowlers are playing. If this doesn't count for a strong bowling attack then nothing does) In short: vs Aus: with both McGrath and Warne playing vs Pak: with both Wasim and waqar playing Vs SA: with both Donald and Pollock playing vs SA: with both Murali and Vaas playing vs WI: with both Ambrose and Walsh playing Appears as if no one wants to do the hard work to get those avgs. You can't just get those by selecting bowlers randomly. You have to do it for each combination and work it out on an excel file Ppl are expected to know what that means .... :winky: The case is closed .... No point in discussing further unless you want to get into their mumble jumble Link to comment
bulbul Posted December 30, 2011 Share Posted December 30, 2011 oh noes Moar pwnage for rett why only away records count when Greats face each other ? Link to comment
Lurker Posted December 30, 2011 Share Posted December 30, 2011 Learn to find answers for your own questions' date=' son.[/quote'] Woooah! Gambo shows up? Whats up dude? Aur yeh kya son-won? Shaadi bhi kar liya bacche bhi ho gaye?? :cantstop: Link to comment
Gambit Posted December 30, 2011 Share Posted December 30, 2011 Woooah! Gambo shows up? Whats up dude? Aur yeh kya son-won? Shaadi bhi kar liya bacche bhi ho gaye?? :cantstop: :hysterical: Abhi ek do saal hai aapki kripa se prabhu Aap kaise hain? Link to comment
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