bharat297 Posted January 16, 2012 Posted January 16, 2012 I know many here are blaming Duncan Fletcher for India's struggles, and while I'm not defending him, I thought I'd just highlight the difference in coaching structures between India and Australia. Lets start with Australia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australia_national_cricket_team#Coaching_staff They've got a head coach, specialist coaches for batting, bowling and fielding, a team manager and a strength and conditioning coach. Their strength and conditioning coach is Stuart Karpinnen (photo attached). Australia also have a high-performance centre, headed by Pat Howard. And now India http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/India_national_cricket_team#Coaching_staff They've don't have a specialist batting or fielding coach. Their mental conditioning coach slot is vacant. They've got a masseur (wtf??? ... lol) and their fitness trainer is Ramji Srinivasan. He's the guy in the photo attached, next to Sachin. Hardly a picture of physical fitness IMO. No high-performance centre either. Pretty much sums up the difference between the 2 sides.
NeutralCat Posted January 16, 2012 Posted January 16, 2012 Says it all really, we are in the 21century and the richest most corrupt board in the world the BCCI does not give a **** about India or the Indian fans, no wonder the world laughs at us when we make grand claims.
India-KXIP fan Posted January 16, 2012 Posted January 16, 2012 Well then I guess we deserved to lose 4-0. Batting techniques of some players need to be worked on and we don't even have a specialist batting coach. Hopefully these massive defeats will open their eyes.
hari504504 Posted January 16, 2012 Posted January 16, 2012 did we have extra coaching personnel during our last tour when we were so close to making it 2-2 ?
vamos_rafa Posted January 16, 2012 Posted January 16, 2012 ^ @CT, I think this line Team spirit is an illusion only glimpsed in victory applies to our fans as well :winky:
Dhonuts Dhoni Posted January 16, 2012 Posted January 16, 2012 The main difference is psychological. A top 6 of... Sehwag Gambhir Dravid Tendulkar Laxman Koli ..should not be reduced to 161 and 171 consecutively. Yes, Australia bowled brilliantly, but at least one of said batsmen should have stood up when it mattered. Especially given the weight of runs that has been made by that lineup. Siddle and co bowled well enough to skittle India, but they shouldn't have embarrassed them to the level they have this series. Compare this to Australia. Warner Cowan Marsh Ponting Clarke Hussey Arguably a weaker side, but in every match, someone has stood up and made runs. Even when the others have failed. Therein lies the difference.
deathmonger Posted January 16, 2012 Posted January 16, 2012 The main difference is psychological. A top 6 of... Sehwag Gambhir Dravid Tendulkar Laxman Koli ..should not be reduced to 161 and 171 consecutively. Yes, Australia bowled brilliantly, but at least one of said batsmen should have stood up when it mattered. Especially given the weight of runs that has been made by that lineup. Siddle and co bowled well enough to skittle India, but they shouldn't have embarrassed them to the level they have this series. Compare this to Australia. Warner Cowan Marsh Ponting Clarke Hussey Arguably a weaker side, but in every match, someone has stood up and made runs. Even when the others have failed. Therein lies the difference. The main difference is our batsmen have become old.
Dhonuts Dhoni Posted January 16, 2012 Posted January 16, 2012 The main difference is our batsmen have become old. Dravid 39 (just last week) Laxman 37 Ponting 37 Hussey 36 Not a huge difference, yet Ponting and Hussey have contributed fairly well. Age isn't everything, and is often used as an excuse. Tendulkar is still going along fine, and he's 38.
Old guy Posted January 16, 2012 Posted January 16, 2012 Dravid 39 (just last week) Laxman 37 Ponting 37 Hussey 36 Not a huge difference, yet Ponting and Hussey have contributed fairly well. Age isn't everything, and is often used as an excuse. Tendulkar is still going along fine, and he's 38. its diff for diff person bud dravid is clearly struggling with reflexes laxman has bad back no way near test fit! ponting is so fit...but even he is no way near best hussey is 36 big diff between 39 and 36 imo... tendulkar is showing signs of aging he is fluent but concentration isnt there
Cricket Tragic Posted January 16, 2012 Posted January 16, 2012 The main difference is psychological. A top 6 of... Sehwag Gambhir Dravid Tendulkar Laxman Koli ..should not be reduced to 161 and 171 consecutively. Yes, Australia bowled brilliantly, but at least one of said batsmen should have stood up when it mattered. Especially given the weight of runs that has been made by that lineup. Siddle and co bowled well enough to skittle India, but they shouldn't have embarrassed them to the level they have this series. Compare this to Australia. Warner Cowan Marsh Ponting Clarke Hussey Arguably a weaker side, but in every match, someone has stood up and made runs. Even when the others have failed. Therein lies the difference. Yeah, but the Aussie bowling is so much better than the Indian bowling. And they're playing at home. The same Indian batting line up will destroy the Indian bowling 'attack'.
prinzo Posted January 16, 2012 Posted January 16, 2012 The difference this time is that Australia got a south African coach , and are winning , when India had a South African coach they were winning aswelll.:omg:
Dhonuts Dhoni Posted January 16, 2012 Posted January 16, 2012 its diff for diff person bud dravid is clearly struggling with reflexes laxman has bad back no way near test fit! ponting is so fit...but even he is no way near best hussey is 36 big diff between 39 and 36 imo... tendulkar is showing signs of aging he is fluent but concentration isnt there All excuses for a fragile middle order which has been divided and conquered by superior Australian bowlers as far as I'm concerned. Age is overrated. Yes it affects different people in varying ways, but I find it hard to believe that all of a sudden the age factor isn't hitting Australian batsmen as much as it's hitting Indian batsmen. India's batsmen were worked over, and didn't have the fortitude to at least try and fight it out.
Old guy Posted January 16, 2012 Posted January 16, 2012 Yeah, but the Aussie bowling is so much better than the Indian bowling. And they're playing at home. The same Indian batting line up will destroy the Indian bowling 'attack'. i dont think so..
Old guy Posted January 16, 2012 Posted January 16, 2012 All excuses for a fragile middle order which has been divided and conquered by superior Australian bowlers as far as I'm concerned. Age is overrated. Yes it affects different people in varying ways, but I find it hard to believe that all of a sudden the age factor isn't hitting Australian batsmen as much as it's hitting Indian batsmen. India's batsmen were worked over, and didn't have the fortitude to at least try and fight it out. all of sudden? bud in last 2-3 years how many times have they even scored 300 outside subcontinent?
singhprakash72 Posted January 16, 2012 Posted January 16, 2012 Like I mentioned in my other post psychologically this Team is done ! If you put a imposter Australian team (may be Zimbabwe) for next text I guarantee they will still lose by an innings.
Number Posted January 16, 2012 Posted January 16, 2012 http://www.haibye.com/gallery/post_pics/Why%20is%20Australia%20better%20than%20India%20in%20sports.jpg
Cricket Tragic Posted January 16, 2012 Posted January 16, 2012 i dont think so.. You don't think that the Australian bowling is better than ours?
1983-2011 Posted January 16, 2012 Posted January 16, 2012 who were in Australia's support staffs when they got thrashed 3-1 in the ashes and who were in India's support staffs when we won the world cup
Old guy Posted January 16, 2012 Posted January 16, 2012 You don't think that the Australian bowling is better than ours? it is.. but not 161- 171 better our batsmen have lost it.. in this match our bowling was bad cos of kumar but was our bowling bad in mcg? no i think our batsmen lost it there they are not even getting 200 are u saying this bowling attack of australia is better then south african attack? where our batsmen faired so much better?
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