Zelch Posted January 22, 2012 Posted January 22, 2012 Yikes...doesnt look good before the final test. Looks like they have given up and are looking at a 3 day test again.
bulbul Posted January 22, 2012 Author Posted January 22, 2012 Add to this when is the last time lost a series in India ? ...we are always strong in our own country so why you need rank turners ?
VRV Singh Posted January 22, 2012 Posted January 22, 2012 No one should want rank turners. It's ridiculous to suggest it. You don't go from one extreme of patta to another of dustbowls. What should be happening are pitches which offer turn from day 1. Make Tests in India interesting and competitve. Gambhir is going to be laughed at here and rightly so...
Bradman99 Posted January 22, 2012 Posted January 22, 2012 No **** Gambhir. He is just making excuses, it's pretty pathetic. He should be concentrated on how they are performing now, rather than trying to downplay it.
saneindian Posted January 22, 2012 Posted January 22, 2012 The series is out of grasp but Indian opener Gautam Gambhir said the debacle has not affected his team's motivation and it is focussed on winning the fourth and final Test to avoid a whitewash against Australia. "Every Test is special. You have to be motivated. There is no lack of motivation. You shouldn't be playing cricket if you are not motivated," said Gambhir after the team's practice session ahead of the match starting here on Tuesday. "The thing is, you don't get bad in one or two series. Just two series back, we were the world's best. That's when your character comes out—you try to back each other and support each other. Back your own team when the entire squad is down," he added. Gambhir said he puts a lot of premium on his side doing well here -- more than even the elusive 100th international hundred of Sachin Tendulkar. "It's more satisfying for me if India wins the Test than if Tendulkar scores his 100th century. When you play for the country, you want the team to win and not individuals to get records. "The 0-3 scoreline hurts far more than Tendulkar not getting his 100. If India can make it 1-3, it would be far satisfying than if Tendulkar gets his hundred (and India ends up still losing). Gambhir conceded that the Australian attack has been a cut above the rest but yearned for that one session which could turn thing around in the final Test. "In England, there was a lot of lateral movement. Here, they had an inexperienced attack. But they have been tremendous and never let us off the hook. They always kept us under pressure, even with three seamers and a spinner," said Gambhir. "They have kept coming at us. There were no easy runs even in the middle session. In the first session, it always does a bit but then it gets flatter. Still, credit to them, they were hitting those areas even in the middle session and not allowing us to score freely," Gambhir said. "Indians are known to bat freely. We have a middle order who are boundary-hitters. But they never let us hit those boundaries. The left-handed opener still believed things change in international cricket quickly and his team has the wherewithal to turn around the corner. "It's a new Test and we have to be positive. There's a month and a half of cricket still left in the series and we have to look to do well here and carry the momentum in one-dayers. "I haven't seen the wicket but they have given us sporting wickets in this series...one good session could turn things around. We have seen it in India where we were made to follow on and went on to win the Test." Gambhir admitted his form has been disappointing in the series and he was nervous to start with. But things have picked up lately for him. "The conditions are very different. There's a lot of bounce. To start with, you are far more nervous and in anxiety poke at the ball. "Gradually, you get the feel of bowlers and what's their game plan. I hadn't known it at the start of the series. Then you start preparing differently and work out the areas where you could score runs. "It was disappointing initially but then after Sydney, I felt far more comfortable in first innings in Perth. The Delhi opener though has no plans to change his batting style for the series. "Whatever your game plans are, you need to stick to it. You can't change it in the middle of Tests or you get confused. In international cricket, you need to have a game plan where you score runs, what's your strength, what you need to be careful about," Gambhir said. "Test cricket is about percentage cricket. You need to cut down on a lot of areas where the bowlers can get you out," he added. Ben Hilfenhaus has the been the chief tormentor for Gambhir in this series but the latter didn't want to rush into a judgment if the right-arm swing bowler is already a top-notch performer. "He made his debut in Mohali and played well. But it's his own backyard and the difference is in conditions. You can judge him after how he performs in the sub-continent. "But he's bowled very well and he's their main bowler who has always taken wickets." Gambhir reiterated that the failure has been collective and it isn't proper to lay it at the door of the openers or middle-order. "It's not one or two players. Sometimes openers don't give the start and middle order does well. On other occasions, openers start well and middle order disappoints. But things can turn around quickly." The regular opener didn't think lack of practice matches in proper conditions was the issue, which hurt his unit in this series. "Practice games are a personal thing. Some take it lightly. I always take every game very seriously. We had just two games before the Tests and I wanted to get the feel of the wicket, feel of bounce and stuff. "But then bowlers in practice matches are not what you get in Tests. In Tests, its' a different ball game." http://www.rediff.com/cricket/slide-show/slide-show-1-australia-tour-india-there-is-no-lack-of-motivation-gambhir/20120122.htm Additional excerpts from the same interview. Now put everything together and tell me where is he making excuses?
Old guy Posted January 22, 2012 Posted January 22, 2012 http://www.rediff.com/cricket/slide-show/slide-show-1-australia-tour-india-there-is-no-lack-of-motivation-gambhir/20120122.htm Additional excerpts from the same interview. Now put everything together and tell me where is he making excuses? thank you, this clears everything up another case of emotional indians :P
Bradman99 Posted January 22, 2012 Posted January 22, 2012 http://www.rediff.com/cricket/slide-show/slide-show-1-australia-tour-india-there-is-no-lack-of-motivation-gambhir/20120122.htm Additional excerpts from the same interview. Now put everything together and tell me where is he making excuses? Fair enough
Magneto Posted January 22, 2012 Posted January 22, 2012 http://www.rediff.com/cricket/slide-show/slide-show-1-australia-tour-india-there-is-no-lack-of-motivation-gambhir/20120122.htm Additional excerpts from the same interview. Now put everything together and tell me where is he making excuses? Thanks for remaining sane when others were going all over-the-top over a simple statement that is not way off.
bulbul Posted January 22, 2012 Author Posted January 22, 2012 http://www.rediff.com/cricket/slide-show/slide-show-1-australia-tour-india-there-is-no-lack-of-motivation-gambhir/20120122.htm Additional excerpts from the same interview. Now put everything together and tell me where is he making excuses? looks like the article you mentioned and i posted in OP are different...There is No talk of Rank turners in the article you mentioned :hmmm: No its same article...Still it wont make him right The rank turner question came because he was asked about the Chit chat between Ishanth/Kohli and OZ batsmen regarding we will see you when you come to India http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news-sport/gambhir-puts-heat-on-aussie-batsmen-20120122-1qbxq.html
panther Posted January 22, 2012 Posted January 22, 2012 can someone give an example of a match played on a rank turner can you post the scorecard too please
khanjee Posted January 22, 2012 Posted January 22, 2012 poor stuff from GG...some of his excuse are just plain stupid...i'm really? for Intl cricketet, all you could do is come up with this crap?
akshayxyz Posted January 22, 2012 Posted January 22, 2012 ye baatein kehney kee nahi hoti.. gives an impression that you are giving excuses.. they should let the performances speak - such talks better left with Kapil, Shashtri, Gavaskar etal.
Needforspeed Posted January 22, 2012 Posted January 22, 2012 ye baatein kehney kee nahi hoti.. gives an impression that you are giving excuses.. they should let the performances speak - such talks better left with Kapil' date=' Shashtri, Gavaskar etal.[/quote'] +1. Should have kept his mouth shut. India could've anyway prepared Rank Turners.
Pagalpanti Posted January 22, 2012 Posted January 22, 2012 No one should want rank turners. It's ridiculous to suggest it. You don't go from one extreme of patta to another of dustbowls. What should be happening are pitches which offer turn from day 1. Make Tests in India interesting and competitve. Gambhir is going to be laughed at here and rightly so... :blink:
Needforspeed Posted January 22, 2012 Posted January 22, 2012 No one should want rank turners. It's ridiculous to suggest it. You don't go from one extreme of patta to another of dustbowls. What should be happening are pitches which offer turn from day 1. Make Tests in India interesting and competitve. Gambhir is going to be laughed at here and rightly so... What's the difference between rank turners and pitches offering turn from Day1?
ganeshran Posted January 22, 2012 Posted January 22, 2012 Timing is wrong here. Right now making a comment just seems like making excuses for poor performances abroad.
VRV Singh Posted January 22, 2012 Posted January 22, 2012 What's the difference between rank turners and pitches offering turn from Day1? There is a difference surely? Ok maybe not day 1, but offering assistance earlier on to ensure batsmen are not just making hay on the first three days. I interpret rank turners as the Indian equivalent of very green tracks. Don't think anyone wants that.
Old guy Posted January 22, 2012 Posted January 22, 2012 There is a difference surely? Ok maybe not day 1' date=' but offering assistance earlier on to ensure batsmen are not just making hay on the first three days. I interpret rank turners as the Indian equivalent of very green tracks.[/quote'] rank turners= perth track we saw or south african tracks...
Dravid_TheWall Posted January 22, 2012 Posted January 22, 2012 I agree with him but it is embarassing we flopped so hard abroad. At least the big 3 have succeeded abroad before and Sehwag to an extent at times, but Gauti hasn't.
chainsmoker1985 Posted January 23, 2012 Posted January 23, 2012 People who r calling these rank green tops, have no idea what an actual rank green top and fast pitch is. The Perth pitch where Indian team got out for 161 and 171 was a perfect Test match pitch. There was something for everyone, bowlers and the batsmen but our batsmen don't want to confess their mistakes, thats why they are SORE LOOSERS.
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