Gambhir wants 'rank turners' in India

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What he says fine and well...Home teams should use their advantage... But as a player isnt it shame to him admit indirectly he is not good enough to play any kind of surfaces? eventhough our legends failed here they have proven record of performing overseas... but players like Gambhir,Sehwag can play well only when surfaces suits them

Gautam Gambhir has called for "rank turners" when teams visit India after India have lost seven consecutive away Tests on pitches that he reckons had lot of grass on them. He said the real test of a team was to win overseas, and that Indian curators shouldn't hesitate to make it as tough as possible for visiting teams. "We need to realise that when we go overseas every country prepares wickets to their own strengths," Gambhir said. "So once the other teams come home we need to prepare tracks to our advantage as well. So there should not be a lot of talk when Australia or South Africa or England come home that we should not be preparing turners. I think we should be playing to our strengths, and if we can prepare rank turners, that's where their technique and their temperament will be tested."

http://www.espncricinfo.com/australia-v-india-2011/content/current/story/550433.html As per Saneindian's Post (From Rediff)

The series is out of grasp but Indian opener Gautam Gambhir said the debacle has not affected his team's motivation and it is focussed on winning the fourth and final Test to avoid a whitewash against Australia. "Every Test is special. You have to be motivated. There is no lack of motivation. You shouldn't be playing cricket if you are not motivated," said Gambhir after the team's practice session ahead of the match starting here on Tuesday. "The thing is, you don't get bad in one or two series. Just two series back, we were the world's best. That's when your character comes out—you try to back each other and support each other. Back your own team when the entire squad is down," he added. Gambhir said he puts a lot of premium on his side doing well here -- more than even the elusive 100th international hundred of Sachin Tendulkar. "It's more satisfying for me if India wins the Test than if Tendulkar scores his 100th century. When you play for the country, you want the team to win and not individuals to get records. "The 0-3 scoreline hurts far more than Tendulkar not getting his 100. If India can make it 1-3, it would be far satisfying than if Tendulkar gets his hundred (and India ends up still losing). Gambhir conceded that the Australian attack has been a cut above the rest but yearned for that one session which could turn thing around in the final Test. "In England, there was a lot of lateral movement. Here, they had an inexperienced attack. But they have been tremendous and never let us off the hook. They always kept us under pressure, even with three seamers and a spinner," said Gambhir. "They have kept coming at us. There were no easy runs even in the middle session. In the first session, it always does a bit but then it gets flatter. Still, credit to them, they were hitting those areas even in the middle session and not allowing us to score freely," Gambhir said. "Indians are known to bat freely. We have a middle order who are boundary-hitters. But they never let us hit those boundaries. The left-handed opener still believed things change in international cricket quickly and his team has the wherewithal to turn around the corner. "It's a new Test and we have to be positive. There's a month and a half of cricket still left in the series and we have to look to do well here and carry the momentum in one-dayers. "I haven't seen the wicket but they have given us sporting wickets in this series...one good session could turn things around. We have seen it in India where we were made to follow on and went on to win the Test." Gambhir admitted his form has been disappointing in the series and he was nervous to start with. But things have picked up lately for him. "The conditions are very different. There's a lot of bounce. To start with, you are far more nervous and in anxiety poke at the ball. "Gradually, you get the feel of bowlers and what's their game plan. I hadn't known it at the start of the series. Then you start preparing differently and work out the areas where you could score runs. "It was disappointing initially but then after Sydney, I felt far more comfortable in first innings in Perth. The Delhi opener though has no plans to change his batting style for the series. "Whatever your game plans are, you need to stick to it. You can't change it in the middle of Tests or you get confused. In international cricket, you need to have a game plan where you score runs, what's your strength, what you need to be careful about," Gambhir said. "Test cricket is about percentage cricket. You need to cut down on a lot of areas where the bowlers can get you out," he added. Ben Hilfenhaus has the been the chief tormentor for Gambhir in this series but the latter didn't want to rush into a judgment if the right-arm swing bowler is already a top-notch performer. "He made his debut in Mohali and played well. But it's his own backyard and the difference is in conditions. You can judge him after how he performs in the sub-continent. "But he's bowled very well and he's their main bowler who has always taken wickets." Gambhir reiterated that the failure has been collective and it isn't proper to lay it at the door of the openers or middle-order. "It's not one or two players. Sometimes openers don't give the start and middle order does well. On other occasions, openers start well and middle order disappoints. But things can turn around quickly." The regular opener didn't think lack of practice matches in proper conditions was the issue, which hurt his unit in this series. "Practice games are a personal thing. Some take it lightly. I always take every game very seriously. We had just two games before the Tests and I wanted to get the feel of the wicket, feel of bounce and stuff. "But then bowlers in practice matches are not what you get in Tests. In Tests, its' a different ball game."

http://www.rediff.com/cricket/slide-...r/20120122.htm

[Old guy]

@op its jsut one glitch in his technique .. he has proved before that he is no ftb.. i think he is right in sense we dont see spinning tracks in australia when we do we? even sydney track changed its nature lol i sitll respect this guy and im sure he will be back in form and he would be very important member of this team while we tour next time over seas cos big 3 would be gone

[Number]

"We need to realise that when we go overseas every country prepares wickets to their own strengths," Gambhir said. "So once the other teams come home we need to prepare tracks to our advantage as well. So there should not be a lot of talk when Australia or South Africa or England come home that we should not be preparing turners. I think we should be playing to our strengths, and if we can prepare rank turners, that's where their technique and their temperament will be tested."

Completely Agree. Nothing wrong with this.

[bulbul]

@op its jsut one glitch in his technique .. he has proved before that he is no ftb.. i think he is right in sense we dont see spinning tracks in australia when we do we? even sydney track changed its nature lol i sitll respect this guy and im sure he will be back in form and he would be very important member of this team while we tour next time over seas cos big 3 would be gone

he didnt done anything in these 7 tests...so just commenting like this make him a sore loser.. its no better than English calling Ajmal chucker after they lost to Pakis

[Old guy]

he didnt done anything in these 7 tests...so just commenting like this make him a sore loser.. its no better than English calling Ajmal chucker after they lost to Pakis

he was injured in england.. im not making excuses for him but he has proved before in south africa.. he was really consistent there and even in nz he saved us a match.. and i agree comments like this make him look bad..we need to think postively abt winning abroad and not to just bully them at home it hsould be there next target btw i think he will get a hundred in adelaide :D

[StatsRock]

LOL! And this guy was talked of as the most reliable Indian opener since Gavaskar :haha: The contrast is ridiculous : Gavaskar had 13 hundreds against the Windies. And he never came close to asking minefields in India. I was all along in sort of a denial state after seeing 4-0 in Eng and 3-0 in Australia. Now I am convinced: this Indian team is useless chicken that lack the will to prepare and conquer the conditions or the opposition. If you manage only 169, 171, 191, you cannot allege the pitch was doctored for pace; it only means you're freaking incompetent.

[The Outsider]

These pathetic losers are trying to hide behind excuses of pitches now, whereas the fact is none of the pitches in England or Australia have been rank green tops. Yeah, they've had a bit of grass and some lateral movement and carry, but overall all 7 tracks have been good cricket pitches and nothing live the lawns that were thrown up in New Zealand in 2002-03 or even nothing like the Hobart wicket in the recent Australia-New Zealand match.

[Androcottus]

And good fast bowlers like Umesh Yadav will struggle on flat tracks with no bounce and movement. Better to leave grass on the pitch and let Yadav, Ishant and Aaron loose on the opposition. Because it's the subcontinent, the ball will turn anyways on day 4 and 5.

[rkt.india]

These pathetic losers are trying to hide behind excuses of pitches now, whereas the fact is none of the pitches in England or Australia have been rank green tops. Yeah, they've had a bit of grass and some lateral movement and carry, but overall all 7 tracks have been good cricket pitches and nothing live the lawns that were thrown up in New Zealand in 2002-03 or even nothing like the Hobart wicket in the recent Australia-New Zealand match.

Agree. IT was just good persistent fast bowling by Australians and some poor batting especially by Gambhir, Sehwag, Dravid, and VVS who are our main front line top order bats.

[CG]

He is right it a way,In india we have too many flat tracks and we are not going to prepare seaming tracks so as prepare pitches which turn but not rank turners.

[Haarkarjeetgaye]

what a loser. he is saying he does not want to be good enough to go and win abroad. From now on I wish he gets out of the team

[bulbul]

He is right it a way' date='In india we have too many flat tracks and we are not going to prepare seaming tracks so as prepare pitches which turn but not rank turners.[/quote'] every one is right in some ways... question is isnt he have confidence in his abilities to score runs in these pitches.. As Outsider and rkt rightly said these are not out and out Green tops...if you cant play inthis pitches what you expect them to prepare a Falt track and reduce chance of results?

[CG]

what a loser. he is saying he does not want to be good enough to go and win abroad. From now on I wish he gets out of the team

When does he say that.:whack:

[saneindian]

Nothing wrong with what he says. The absolute flat roads we have been playing on at home (barring a few decent ones) do not help the team. Regarding the sporting tracks in Eng and Aus, they were clearly designed to help the home team. Cook in an interview last year had said how the ECB had made sure the team got the kind of tracks it wanted to play on during the summer. Same with the Aussie curators in this series. If they get pitches of their choice, why should the Indian team be deprived of it. In the last 4-5 year, the only pitch that can be termed as a rank turner was Kanpur track vs the Saffers and that produced gripping cricket. Need more such racks for our home series. For our domestic set up though, we should look at producing pitches of all varieties to give our younger players a balanced exposure.

[bulbul]

Nothing wrong with what he says. The absolute flat roads we have been playing on at home (barring a few decent ones) do not help the team. Regarding the sporting tracks in Eng and Aus, they were clearly designed to help the home team. Cook in an interview last year had said how the ECB had made sure the team got the kind of tracks it wanted to play on during the summer. Same with the Aussie curators in this series. If they get pitches of their choice, why should the Indian team be deprived of it. In the last 4-5 year, the only pitch that can be termed as a rank turner was Kanpur track vs the Saffers and that produced gripping cricket. Need more such racks for our home series. For our domestic set up though, we should look at producing pitches of all varieties to give our younger players a balanced exposure.

who is Responsible for that? why dont Gambhir questions curators / BCCI when he is playing in India ? or when he is in Great form for couple of years?

[CG]

every one is right in some ways... question is isnt he have confidence in his abilities to score runs in these pitches.. As Outsider and rkt rightly said these are not out and out Green tops...if you cant play inthis pitches what you expect them to prepare a Falt track and reduce chance of results?

These pitches may not be green tops but still had fair amount of grass,More than on previous tours of australia and england .It would be better we do not take everything out of context.

[Stuge]

He may be right ,but his timing is absolutely wrong .When you're losing like minnows you better don't speak . Over the past 7 months or so they've played absolutely pathetic cricket that I've seen for many years from Indian team .It seems winning world cup to them was enough and now no one wants to play cricket anymore .THey are just playing for the sake for playing . Losing is one thing ,but losing like minnows is another . So much has happened after april that I have almost stopped watching them.

[CG]

who is Responsible for that? why dont Gambhir questions curators / BCCI when he is playing in India ? or when he is in Great form for couple of years?

as nobody asks these question when we win,But dhoni has always been advocating turning tracks .

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as nobody asks these question when we win' date='But dhoni has always been advocating turning tracks .[/quote'] question here is of Gambhir , nothing to do with Dhoni... Atleast in his part Dhoni wont whine much when we lose.. :two_thumbs_up:

[Number]

Nowhere he said he can't score on Green tracks and neither he is making excuses. He has done well for us in SA and NZ. All he is asking is we should prepare turners that don't suit our opponent's playing style.