Chris Gayle vs West Indies Cricket Board

[rajmarie]

Asking Gayle, Chanderpaul & Sarwan to leave is like India asking Sachin, Dravid & Laxman to leave almost together. Its a highly risky proposition. A team without a senior guiding them is like firing a missile without setting the target.

U cant compare them. Sachin, Dravid & Laxman plays in a team. Gayle, Chanders & Sarwan plays with 8 more individuals...all playing for themselevs. What WI needs is the concept of team to develop. Unfortunately...as long as these 3 are there...it will not. So getting them out is the way to go forward. Look at Gayle..he was injured..even though WI selectors said..they want Gayle for Test against Pak...& not in ODI & T20...what Gayle did...sign IPL contract..& will miss all test against Pak...because u is making money in IPL. so what right does he have to come back in WI team when he finish IPL

[Pak_Forever]

Gayle, how about representing your nation and win your fans heart/interest by performing where it matters? He should be kicked out for good now. He can represent tom n jerry in T20s all he wants, over international cricket. Every board has issues, but that doesn't mean you disregard the nation completely. WI cricket is in a downfall also bc of selfish players like him.

[Ultimate_Game]

Well if you look at U19 cricket then WI is always one of the top teams' date=' just now they beat Aus in a series, yet these players that seem to do well at age group cricket turn out to be mediocre first class players and not good enough for tests.[/quote'] That's all the more reason to keep guys like Gayle and Chanderpaul in the team so that youngsters can learn from them. WI doesn't have a good infrastructure anymore so it's all the more important to ensure that up & coming youngsters learn from folks who can at least teach them something. Simply blooding youngsters will not get you anywhere as they will simply fall away with nobody to nurture and look after them. As for U-19 team even Bangladesh supposedly has a good u-19 team and see where it has gotten them so far.

[siddhu]

Gayle, how about representing your nation and win your fans heart/interest by performing where it matters? He should be kicked out for good now. He can represent tom n jerry in T20s all he wants, over international cricket. Every board has issues, but that doesn't mean you disregard the nation completely. WI cricket is in a downfall also bc of selfish players like him.

Hmmm. Interesting. But Afridi resigning in the middle of test series isn't selfish? Moyo moving around like a thali ka baingan is not selfish?

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'Tried exceedingly hard to reach out to Gayle' - WICB chief More... 'Tried exceedingly hard to reach out to Gayle' - Hilaire ESPNcricinfo staff April 26, 2011 WICB chief Ernest Hilaire has said the board worked "exceedingly hard" to reach out to Chris Gayle before leaving him out of the West Indies squad for the first two one-dayers against Pakistan. Hilaire's statements were in response to Gayle, who had earlier said the board hadn't communicated with him before making their decision. Gayle is currently playing in the IPL, where he started off his 2011 campaign with a sparkling ton for Royal Challengers Bangalore, while West Indies are down 0-2 in the five-match series against Pakistan. "We can dispel all that Chris [Gayle] said by releasing the letters and emails," Hilaire told the Line & Length Network. "But we should not do that. You communicate with a player, you ask for his opinions, you ask for him to account on certain statements he made, you ask him what's his position on certain things and you expect to be treated with a certain degree of confidence. "You expect when the coach pulls a player aside and speaks to him there is a certain level of respect for that conversation. And against that background I'm not going to try to prove Chris Gayle wrong. What's more important is to state that we're very disappointed in the way in Chris has decided to respond. I think he is being ill-advised. We've worked exceedingly hard to reach out to Chris - numerous attempts - letters, phone calls, emails. He is being advised and he will act in the way in which he sees best." Hilaire revealed that the WICB had decided to allow Gayle to play in the IPL, since it did not want to deny him the opportunity. "We've stated - it is not that we do not want the players to earn a living," Hilaire said. "We want them to earn a living but we also want them to honour their commitment to West Indies cricket. So we spoke to [Kieron] Pollard, [Dwayne] Bravo and Chris. "Last October when the three players did not sign the retainer contracts, we wrote to them and said 'tell us what the issues are so we can address it moving forward'," Hilaire said. "We had some exchanges, a couple of constructive ones, one not very constructive but we decided we were going to continue to engage the players. We did not want a situation where we pick the players to play for West Indies and they miss out on IPL, they are then bitter, disappointed, they wish they were at IPL. We would not benefit, they would not benefit. "Two of the players [Pollard and Bravo] were very cooperative, very supportive, that they can work out an arrangement with us where they can meet their commitments to West Indies cricket as far as the selectors would want them to but also get a chance to play in the IPL. "It did not exactly work out with Chris but when the point came and he said he was not available for selection, we did give him the NOC because it is not about revenge, it is not about denying him the opportunity." Pollard, normally a first-choice pick in West Indies' limited-overs' squads, is currently playing in the IPL for Mumbai Indians. Bravo, who missed all but one game in the World Cup with injury, is playing for West Indies, but is set to miss the Test leg of the Pakistan tour to play in the IPL. Hilaire said the board was under the impression that Gayle was undergoing rehabilitation, and would be available to play Pakistan once he was fully fit. "We said to Chris repeatedly that as far as we are concerned you're injured, you're doing a rehabilitative programme, and that when you're finished we want you tested and if you're available we'll pick you to play for West Indies," Hilaire said. "If you don't want to play we have no difficulty in giving you the NOC once you say you're not available for selection, and he said he was not available for selection and we gave him the NOC. Hilaire defended the wholesale changes in the side - apart from Gayle, other seniors like Ramnaresh Sarwan and Shivnarine Chanderpaul have also been left out - saying it was done with the intention of sparking a revival in the team's fortunes. "If you look at West Indies cricket since the mid-90s a lot of the systems we had in place broke down," Hilaire said. "There's no discipline, there's no application. We've been doing that for 15 years and we've been losing. "We need to put a new system in place. No one man is bigger than the team, no one man is such a superstar he can decide if he is training today, if he's going to have treatment tomorrow, if he's going to attend a team meeting. It cannot work that way. "So [the WICB] does not tell the selectors who to pick, we've said to the selectors that we want a team, we don't want the whole team to surround one or two superstars so that if the superstars fail then everything collapses. We depend on two or three people to excel for us to win and if they don't excel we lose. We don't want that."

[OutStumped]

Chanderpaul questions Hilaire's comments

Former West Indies captain Shivnarine Chanderpaul has demanded an explanation from WICB chief Ernest Hilaire regarding the comments he made regarding the lack of discipline and application in the team, leading up to its massive post World Cup overhaul. In a strongly-worded letter addressed to Hilaire, a copy of which is with ESPNcricinfo, Chanderpaul questioned whether the comments were directed at him. Chanderpaul, along with senior players Chris Gayle and Ramnaresh Sarwan were axed from the side for the ongoing series against Pakistan. Hilaire's interview with Line and Length network, a copy of which was later released by the WICB, touched upon a number of the problems ailing West Indies cricket over the past 15 years. Chanderpaul's concerns were over the following excerpt from the interview: "If you look at West Indies cricket since the mid-90s, a lot of the systems we had in place broke down. There's no discipline, there's no application. We've been doing that for 15 years and we've been losing. We need to put a new system in place. No one man is bigger than the team, no one man is such a superstar he can decide if he is training today, if he's going to have treatment tomorrow, if he's going to attend a team meeting. It cannot work that way." In response, Chanderpaul wrote: "I am particularly concerned about the following statements: 1. There's no discipline, there's no application. 2. No one man is bigger than the team, no one man is such a superstar he can decide if he is training today, if he's going to have treatment tomorrow, if he's going to attend a team meeting. "I am of the opinion that anyone reading these comments in the specific context will conclude that: "1. I, Shivnarine Chanderpaul, am an indisciplined individual and during my tenure as a West Indies player over the past fifteen years have lacked discipline and contributed to the West Indies team losing. "2. I, Shivnarine Chanderpaul have not applied myself or demonstrated any real application to my role as a member of the West Indies team over the past 15 years and by so doing have contributed to the West Indies team losing. "3. I, Shivnarine Chanderpaul, consider myself to be bigger than the team. "4. I, Shivnarine Chanderpaul, while a member of the West Indies team during the past fifteen years, have decided when I was training or not training. "5. I, Shivnarine Chanderpaul, while a member of the West Indies team during the past fifteen years, have decided when I was going to attend or not attend team meetings. "6. (Based on the accusations above) I, Shivnarine Chanderpaul, while a member of the West Indies team during the past fifteen years, have disregarded the coaches and managerial staff or undermined team discipline by my actions and attitude." Chanderpaul also questioned whether the statements were reflective of Hilaire's personal opinion, or were made in his capacity as WICB chief. "If they were made by you, I note that you constantly use the word 'we' in the excerpt above," Chanderpaul wrote. "I would like to know if this is a 'royal we' or, in other words, are you speaking for yourself, albeit as CEO of the West Indies Cricket Board or are you speaking for and on behalf of the West Indies Cricket Board itself? This is important to me since I believe I have served the WICB and West Indies Cricket faithfully and well during my career and it would be difficult for me to accept that the members of the board of directors of West Indies cricket have sanctioned those remarks. On what basis have you made those statements and with what purpose?" Asking Hilaire to reply urgently, Chanderpaul said he was worried the comments would damage his reputation. "I am convinced that those persons who do not know the sacrifices I have made on behalf of West Indies Cricket and my dedication to the cause of West Indies Cricket would believe, based on what you have said in your interview, that I lack discipline and application and have not demonstrated the sense of responsibility which I know that I have shown throughout my career. While I would refer you to my unblemished reputation for professionalism and to all the other CEOs, coaches and managers with whom I have worked, I believe that you have crossed the line by making these public accusations that, while they may include others, are also directed at me and if unchallenged and corrected may destroy my career." Chanderpaul told Hilaire in his letter that if he did not receive an adequate explanation he would take whatever action necessary to clear his name. "While it would help if the WICB as an organisation repudiates your comments in this regards, it would still not be sufficient to erase the tremendous damage already done. I await your urgent response and reserve all of my rights in this matter."

http://www.espncricinfo.com/westindies/content/current/story/512932.html

[Cricket Tragic]

No point having someone who doesn't give a **** in the team. I'd rather have a youngster with potential.

[Sir john]

Selectors asked me to retire - Chanderpaul Shivnarine Chanderpaul has claimed the West Indies selectors asked him to quit at the conclusion of the World Cup and that he was dropped from the West Indies team when he refused to comply. Chanderpaul's allegation forms part of a letter he's written to WICB chief Ernest Hilaire - the second such communication over the past few days - in which he's sought explanations for various issues that are at the centre of the current controversy in West Indian cricket. The controversy was kicked off by comments made by Hilaire on April 25. Two days later, Chanderpaul reacted to that with a letter addressed to Hilaire seeking a few clarifications. Hilaire responded on April 29, stating that his comments on cricketers did not name individual players and were based on reports and public comments made by previous coaches. Hilaire also stated that Chanderpaul "has been and remains a valued member of the West Indies first team squad". It was in response to that April 29 letter, that Chanderpaul has once again questioned why he was then dropped for the series against Pakistan. "As far as you are concerned I was dropped from the team not for lack of performance, age, fitness and/or discipline but it is the new direction WICB is going in. What direction is that, when three of the four best batsmen are dropped from the team?" In that letter, also dated April 29, Chanderpaul also expressed his displeasure with Hilaire's statement that he was acting on the "ill advice" of the West Indies Players Association (WIPA). Hilaire said, "The WICB has informed Chanderpaul that he has been and remains a valued member of the West Indies first team squad and looks forward to his continued involvement with West Indies cricket," Hilaire wrote. "The WICB expresses disappointment that WIPA appears to be intent using every opportunity to cause disaffection in West Indies cricket and is not averse to offering ill advice to players to achieve this end." Chanderpaul's retort was acerbic: "I may not be Dr Chanderpaul, but I have been a top-ranked international batsman and we have to be able to think critically under the most intense and stressful situations. "It is therefore distressing that you blame WIPA by implication, if not overtly, for my letter saying that WIPA was offering me "ill advice". You may not be aware but I have faced the best bowlers in the world in my career and I know how to counter-attack. Furthermore, I am my own man and would ask that you respect that!" In this latest letter, Chanderpaul also raised several other issues that include claims of faulty injury management by the WICB. - "The treatment towards me after the last Australian tour where, after diving for a ball, I got injured and my treatment from the WICB physio was ineffective. I had to look after myself on my return home, including paying for all my medical expenses. The WI team physio advised that what I required was rest when in fact the doctors decided that I needed to have a cast because of the seriousness of the injury. - "That the WICB selectors asked me to retire and were upset when I refused to do so; - "That one of the selectors further told me that I would need to go to Regional Cricket and do exceptionally well and then they might consider me for future selection, despite me having the 3rd best average in the recently concluded World Cup for the WI cricket team, of anyone with more than two innings; - "That the Coach said that I did not do anything for the team in the last 12 months and hence the reason for me being dropped."

[vvvslaxman]

:hysterical: and the circus continues.

[ganeshran]

And WICB wonders why players pick club over country

[Karan114]

Even Gayle said that he had to pay the medical expenses for one of his injuries...the WICB is an utter shambles and no surprise they have taken West Indies to the level of a minnow (and things will get even worse in the coming years).

[Cricket Tragic]

Bloody mess. :headshake:

[Sachin=GOD]

WICB is proving to be the equal of the PCB in stupidity - a feat unmatched in cricket till date.

[Blueraphael]

Generally WICB is an absolute circus but on this count, I'll have to side with them. They were not going to select him so they gave him a chance to go out of the game on his own terms. Chanderpaul is 36, so he is definitely not the future of WI cricket. and unlike, say Sachin, he isn't exactly in the form of his life. Plus, they have declared the policy of giving youngters a chance. Although the presence of a few seniors would have been helpful, I opine that those seniors should have been Gayle and maybe Sarwan. He has been a very, very good cricketer. Those Dravid-esque innings were top class. But his time is up.

[b555]

Chanderpaul accuses WI selectors of asking him to retire

Senior West Indies batsman Shivnarine Chanderpaul has alleged that the national selectors had asked him to retire after the World Cup and was dropped from the squad for the ongoing home series against Pakistan when he refused to comply with it. Chanderpaul made the allegations in a letter to WICB chief Ernest Hilaire - the second such communication over the past few days - in which he has also sought explanations for various issues which are at the centre of current controversy in West Indian cricket. Just a few days ago, Chanderpaul had shot off a letter to Hilaire, questioning his comments about the lack of discipline and application in the West Indies team over the last decade. Hilaire responded on Friday, stating that his comments on cricketers did not name individual players and were based on reports and public comments made by previous coaches. He also stated that Chanderpaul “has been and remains a valued member of the West Indies first team squad“. It was in response to this letter of Hilaire that Chanderpaul accused the selectors of having told him to retire after the World Cup. “WICB selectors asked me to retire and were upset when I refused to do so. One of the selectors told me I would need to go to regional cricket and do exceptionally well and then they might consider me for future selection, despite me having the third best average in the World Cup for the WI cricket team, of anyone with more than two innings,” Chanderpual said in the letter. “The coach said I did not do anything for the team in the last 12 months and hence the reason for me being dropped (from the squad for home Pakistan series),” Chanderpaul wrote, according to ‘ESPNcricinfo’ Chanderpaul also expressed his displeasure with Hilaire’s statement that he was acting on the “ill advice” of the West Indies Players Association. “I may not be Dr Chanderpaul but I have been a top—ranked international batsman and we have to be able to think critically under the most intense and stressful situations. “It is therefore distressing that you blame WIPA by implication, if not overtly, for my letter saying that WIPA was offering me ‘ill advice’ You may not be aware but I have faced the best bowlers in the world in my career and I know how to counter—attack. Furthermore, I am my own man and would ask that you respect that,” he said.

[achilles]

Gayle, how about representing your nation and win your fans heart/interest by performing where it matters? He should be kicked out for good now. He can represent tom n jerry in T20s all he wants, over international cricket. Every board has issues, but that doesn't mean you disregard the nation completely. WI cricket is in a downfall also bc of selfish players like him.

With all respect, Pakistan is the last country that should give lessons on morality.

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'Wasn't contacted by WICB about injury before IPL': Jerome Taylor jumps on the anti West Indies Cricket Board bandwagon More... 'Wasn't contacted by WICB about injury before IPL' Siddhartha Talya May 8, 2011 Jerome Taylor, the West Indies fast bowler who returned to competitive cricket in the IPL after another break due to injury, has said the West Indies Cricket Board (WICB) did not contact him about the injury until he arrived in India to play for the Pune Warriors. Taylor, who last played for West Indies in June 2010, wasn't picked for the home ODI series against Pakistan. It led Michael Holding to question, during series commentary, as to why Taylor had then been cleared by the WICB to play in the IPL. Taylor said he was told his back injury sustained during the domestic first-class competition in the Caribbean earlier this year "was nothing to keep me out for too long." This assessment, Taylor said, came from Dr. Akshai Mansingh, part of the WICB medical panel, whom he was sent to meet during the tournament. Taylor missed the previous two IPL seasons due to other injuries but this year has bowled with good pace and rhythm. Explaining his decision to play in the IPL, Taylor told ESPNcricinfo: "I had asked the WICB for an NOC due to the fact that I wasn't a contracted player with the WICB. I was in a preparation camp for the Four Day tournament and didn't get selected in the 30-man preliminary squad for the World Cup, which none of the selectors said anything to me about even though I was fit enough to be preparing for the first-class competition. "I wasn't sure I was going to be selected, so I had to keep my options open. It was a case where I didn't want to be at home waiting to be selected, not get picked and let this opportunity pass me for a third year in a row." The only communication he had with the board before arriving in India, Taylor said, was a chat with selector Robert Haynes during the Four Day tournament and an exchange of e-mails about his no-objection certificate for playing in the IPL with the board CEO Ernest Hilaire. "But no one contacted me about my injury before I came here," Taylor said. It was only after he reached India, he added, that he'd been contacted by the board about his fitness. "On April 7, 2011, after I had arrived in India, I received an e-mail from Dr. Hilaire - and the Pune Warriors management and medical staff also let me know - that he needed a report on my medical status for his purposes of informing the IPL (about my fitness). " Taylor's career in international cricket has been beset by a back injury among others, limiting his availability to 29 Tests after he'd been identified as among the most promising fast-bowling prospects for West Indies when he made his debut in 2003. He reiterated he was "still aspiring to lead the West Indies attack" and that the IPL was a platform to "give a good account of myself." In a broader interview, Taylor also said he didn't think leaving out senior players from the ODI side was helpful since West Indies will be playing "against tough teams" this year and therefore needed the right combination of youth and experience if they were going to be successful. "We're not here to just play cricket and represent West Indies; we need people who can actually compete. We're winning games but we need to start winning series and tournaments. We need to make sure that we're seriously challenging teams and pushing them close." In his five IPL matches, Taylor has taken six wickets at 26.16 and admitted that while injuries had forced him to cut down on pace, he is focused on delivering on the field. "I'm not sure what they [selectors] are thinking right now but what can I do more than go out there and perform? That's my focus right now. I have to make sure I'm performing and I'm fit, and the rest is left in their hands. "At this moment my body is feeling good and I'm up for it and I have to make sure that I put the best of Jerome Taylor out on the park."

[Ultimate_Game]

Another screw-up by WICB. Seriously I don't really know which is the worst governing body - WICB, PCB or ZCB (Zimbabwe)

[Params7]

Haha wow. No wonder Windies has been crap. Can't wait for an Indian whitewash. They'll go begging back to Gayle, Taylor and all other seniors they have mistreated.

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Gayle, Taylor resumed playing without medical clearance - WICB More... Gayle, Taylor resumed playing without medical clearance - WICB ESPNcricinfo staff May 12, 2011 The West Indies Cricket Board (WICB) has reacted strongly to comments made by Chris Gayle and Jerome Taylor about the lack of communication from the board about their injury and rehabilitation prior to their departure to India to play in the IPL. The WICB stated, in a release, that both players "unilaterally decided to resume playing before being given final clearance from WICB appointed therapists." Gayle, in an interview with KLAS Sports, a radio station in Jamaica, said the board hadn't checked on his rehabilitation after the World Cup - where he sustained an abdominal muscle strain - and that he was "stunned" when he found out he hadn't been picked for the limited-overs series against Pakistan. Taylor, in an interview with ESPNcricinfo, had said the WICB did not contact him about his back injury before he left to play in the IPL, and it only did so on April 7, once he'd arrived in India. In response, the WICB has released detailed timelines of the two players' rehabilitation and correspondence with the board. In the case of Gayle, the board's timeline notes that between April 17 and 18 this year: "Chris departs for India. Has not had required medical review, nor did he complete rehabilitation program and physiotherapy review as required, neither did he complete fitness testing prior to competition resumption." It also published an exchange of messages between Gayle and West Indies team physio CJ Clark about his fitness during the period March 24-April 8. With regard to Taylor, the board claimed "he had not kept physiotherapy appointments for weeks prior to his deciding to resume playing." Its timeline notes that as per early April this year, "Jerome departs to India without completion of rehabilitation, medical assessment or approval" after missing a scheduled review with Dr. Akshai Mansingh, part of the WICB medical panel, who had been tracking his progress. The board also reacted to criticism from Shivnarine Chanderpaul, saying "as a centrally contracted player the Board will address this matter through contractual provisions at the appropriate time."