theguyinallblue Posted July 31, 2007 Posted July 31, 2007 he is just one win away from a historic series victory over england ..he has already won a series in WI.. he has shown in this test match that when the team performs..a captian more often than not come out as victorious.. he had a mediocre series so far as batsman by his very high standards.. still his team is 1-0 in the series... he has been a very good captain and leader... and as long as his team will keep giving these performances..we will keep winning matches after matches.. PS: bheembhai ..can you please produce the stats for win/loss ratio of indian captains..excluding minnows..( BD, ZIM) in Tests and ODIs.. this will show a real picture of the winnigewst captain... lets settle this issue once and for all..
coffee_rules Posted July 31, 2007 Posted July 31, 2007 I think he extended his captaincy career with this win. If he loses the next test also, a series levelled in Eng is quite an achievement for a Indian captain, will continue to stay on for home series against Pak. I think a series failure in Eng, would have resulted in people asking for head and organs in India. Sort of like Ganguly in 2004 after a Aus series draw.
yoda Posted July 31, 2007 Posted July 31, 2007 dravid has shown again that a captain is only as good as his team.
theguyinallblue Posted July 31, 2007 Author Posted July 31, 2007 samjo hogaya Yeah as long as you dont create a Id at bukhaar.com and go ape sh.it :haha: :haha::haha:..ab mujhe un par thoda taras aa ta hai... lekin chowkidaar abhi bhi sudhra nahi hai...usko ungli karne ka bahut mann karta hai...its so tempting..:D
Bumper Posted July 31, 2007 Posted July 31, 2007 Bheem could u post stats filtered ONLY for overseas tests. I would like to know the W/L for for overseas tests only. Is Dravid the greatest Indian test captain outside India ?
Lurker Posted July 31, 2007 Posted July 31, 2007 ^^ BB does that include all Test playing nation or non-minnows? I find it hard to beleive that Ganguly won 11 non-minnow test outside India. Then again Alzheimer might be striking early to me.
Bumper Posted July 31, 2007 Posted July 31, 2007 Bumps you are right Dravid is indeed the best overseas :D :yay: Thank you, great stats. You made my day. From now on, I would shove this one up, everyone's a$$ who claims Dravid is a poor captain. Interestingly both on W/L (1.25) and (W+D)/Total played (ie, Proportion of overseas tests not lost), Dravid leads the table. (W+D)/Played = 75% for Dravid, compared to 64% of Ganguly's :thumbs_up:
Lurker Posted July 31, 2007 Posted July 31, 2007 ^^ Good to hear it was not my Alzheimer then. No probs with including every test team there. It was hard work as it is, plus nice to see the record of all the skippers of India at one place. I daresay if you exclude minnows Dravid's stats would be more impressive. Under him we havent lost an overseas series(have we?). We have won in WI, drew in South Africa and seems to be heading towards atleast a draw if not win in this one.
Bumper Posted July 31, 2007 Posted July 31, 2007 ^^ Good to hear it was not my Alzheimer then. No probs with including every test team there. It was hard work as it is, plus nice to see the record of all the skippers of India at one place. I daresay if you exclude minnows Dravid's stats would be more impressive. Under him we havent lost an overseas series(have we?). We have won in WI, drew in South Africa and seems to be heading towards atleast a draw if not win in this one. We lost the series in SA & Pakistan
yoda Posted July 31, 2007 Posted July 31, 2007 so we have two great captains - one for the minnows and the other for the rest.
Chandan Posted August 1, 2007 Posted August 1, 2007 Thanks BB. Read this: Dravid welds rudderless tourists into winners I don't think that he has become tactically good and he made many mistakes in this match too, but his personnel performed much better to overcome any such errors. But this should not take away the comfort of having coach and person who can look after every one's game including Dravid's.
King Tendulkar Posted August 1, 2007 Posted August 1, 2007 dravid has shown again that a captain is only as good as his team. True, just like a coach the captain has limited impact and their roles are over rated. Look at Ponting not a brain cell there but his team keeps on winning!
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