CG Posted July 6, 2012 Posted July 6, 2012 So your opinion of a cricketer is based on what his fans say? Fans talk up their player. Happens with every player. +Media, experts,allthough they change their tunes frequently but masses believe them.Which other country a captain would survive 2 whitewashes ?
CG Posted July 6, 2012 Posted July 6, 2012 Viru.. could you win with the same team? :cantstop: Why not? dhoni captaincy and selection were not good during wc.
CG Posted July 6, 2012 Posted July 6, 2012 by standing behind his team mates and letting them cherish the moment. :winky: Masterstroke.
Ultimate_Game Posted July 6, 2012 Posted July 6, 2012 Yes, captaincy alone didn't win the WC but it played a big part. If anyone could captain a team to WC wins I wonder how come we didn't win anything since 83 and it was under Dhoni we won 2 WCs :hmmm: As for guys who think captain is as good as the team, try putting the same team under Tendulkar or Sehwag and see the difference :giggle:
vvvslaxman Posted July 6, 2012 Posted July 6, 2012 Why not? dhoni captaincy and selection were not good during wc. You are under-estimating viru. From whatever little i have seen of him , he is one of the dumbest captain we have had. We would not have even reached semi final with him as a captain.
master22 Posted July 6, 2012 Posted July 6, 2012 Captaincy is overrated.A captain is only as good as his team. Dhoni is not an attacking captain anyway.
vvvslaxman Posted July 6, 2012 Posted July 6, 2012 Masterstroke. That is dumb.. India winning a world cup in India .. how much bigger it can get. He could have run naked and got away. It takes great leadership quality to stand back and let the team cherish it. He backs his players and inspires them to do well. Never under-estimate Dhoniconda
jusarrived Posted July 6, 2012 Posted July 6, 2012 Captaincy is overrated.A captain is only as good as his team. Dhoni is not an attacking captain anyway. attacking captiancy is overrated too .
CG Posted July 6, 2012 Posted July 6, 2012 You are under-estimating viru. From whatever little i have seen of him ' date=' he is one of the dumbest captain we have had. We would not have even reached semi final with him as a captain.[/quote'] His captaincy during the wi odi series was one of best pieces of attacking captaincy i had seen in odis by an indian captain.
CG Posted July 6, 2012 Posted July 6, 2012 That is dumb.. India winning a world cup in India .. how much bigger it can get. He could have run naked and got away. It takes great leadership quality to stand back and let the team cherish it. He backs his players and inspires them to do well. Never under-estimate Dhoniconda That is dumber,best way to get in the spotlight is pretend to avoid it.Twirl shot was example of great showmanship and a glimpse of real dhoni.
vvvslaxman Posted July 6, 2012 Posted July 6, 2012 His captaincy during the wi odi series was one of best pieces of attacking captaincy i had seen in odis by an indian captain. Then you have not seen enough of him. IPL proved what a dumb captain he was.
CG Posted July 6, 2012 Posted July 6, 2012 Then you have not seen enough of him. IPL proved what a dumb captain he was. I do not judge captains by ipl.
vvvslaxman Posted July 6, 2012 Posted July 6, 2012 That is dumber' date='best way to get in the spotlight is pretend to avoid it.Twirl shot was example of great showmanship and a glimpse of real dhoni.[/quote'] Not really.. Ganguly's expression at Lords over a thamasha Natwest series is much more widely talked about that Dhoni taking the backseat.
vvvslaxman Posted July 6, 2012 Posted July 6, 2012 I do not judge captains by ipl. The west indies series.. i don't recall any great captaincy.. can you elaborate.. ? That was a piss poor team anyway.
CG Posted July 6, 2012 Posted July 6, 2012 Not really.. Ganguly's expression at Lords over a thamasha Natwest series is much more widely talked about that Dhoni taking the backseat. But its not used as an attribute to show how good he is.its used to ridicule him.dhoni is a very shrewd man .I used to be a dhoni fan myself wanting him to be best wk batsman in all formats.but the way he has handled the indian team and all this mess we are in currently.i cannot say a good word for him.
CG Posted July 6, 2012 Posted July 6, 2012 The west indies series.. i don't recall any great captaincy.. can you elaborate.. ? That was a piss poor team anyway. He attacked the opp and he kept field in odis for a long time .
vvvslaxman Posted July 6, 2012 Posted July 6, 2012 But its not used as an attribute to show how good he is.its sued to ridicule him.dhoni is a very shrewd man .I used to be a dhoni fan myself wanting him to be best wk batsman in all formats.but the way he has handled the indian team and all this mess we are in currently.i cannot say a good word for him. His test captaincy record is very poor abroad. No one questions despite the fact India got to No.1 position in Tests. But in limited overs he is very good. He has his own flaws like rigid team selection. He is not flawless. But he is more effective than others.
vvvslaxman Posted July 6, 2012 Posted July 6, 2012 He attacked the opp and he kept field in odis for a long time . which match? the one where he made 219?
CG Posted July 6, 2012 Posted July 6, 2012 His test captaincy record is very poor abroad. No one questions despite the fact India got to No.1 position in Tests. But in limited overs he is very good. He has his own flaws like rigid team selection. He is not flawless. But he is more effective than others. Problem is his odi captaincy and form are being used as a shield for his test captaincy.which captain except bang or zim captain could survive two white washes.
CG Posted July 6, 2012 Posted July 6, 2012 which match? the one where he made 219? first few matches i think.they got away in the end to post 260 or 270.but he kept field in and looked for wickets.
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