Ram Posted November 11, 2012 Posted November 11, 2012 Spent all night Friday at the ER with gunshot drug dealer :yay: Do you doctor types get de-sensitized to blood, pain, suffering and death after a point? I know you guys do a remarkable and priceless job saving ives, but does it all affect you emotionally to witness so much tragedy, almost daily? I heard that depression rates among medical professionals is among the highest in all professions. Is that true?
Crookbond Posted November 12, 2012 Posted November 12, 2012 Do you doctor types get de-sensitized to blood' date=' pain, suffering and death after a point? I know you guys do a remarkable and priceless job saving ives, but does it all affect you emotionally to witness so much tragedy, almost daily? [b']I heard that depression rates among medical professionals is among the highest in all professions. Is that true? Depressive symptoms in medical students and residents: a multischool study. More than 2,000 medical students and residents responded, for an overall response rate of 89%. Based on categorical levels from the CES-D, 12% had probable major depression and 9.2% had probable mild/moderate depression. There were significant differences in depression by trainee level, with a higher rate among medical students; and gender, with higher rates among women (chi2 = 10.42, df = 2, and P = .005 and chi2 = 22.1, df = 2, and P http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19174678 http://www.insidehighered.com/news/2009/01/29/suicide Medical Student Distress and the Risk of Doctor Suicide http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/07/health/views/07chen.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0
Texy Posted November 12, 2012 Posted November 12, 2012 Do you doctor types get de-sensitized to blood' date=' pain, suffering and death after a point? I know you guys do a remarkable and priceless job saving ives, but does it all affect you emotionally to witness so much tragedy, almost daily? I heard that depression rates among medical professionals is among the highest in all professions. Is that true?[/quote'] Yes it is 100% true. Depression is very high among doctors which leads to 400-500 deaths per year...that's more than 1 a day. Usually suicide by men is 4 times higher than women in general but among physicians it's split almost equally. It's a silent depression that doesn't get treated due to fear of admitting to mental health problem on your record while there is a chance of losing your license. And yes we have to get de-sensitized to do our job properly...there is no time for emotion. I personally would sit at lunch, gulping a sandwich while studying cysts, tumors, unborn fetuses, bloating among the drowning john does :D ....I however, feel for the guys working the Pediatric Oncology. You can be de-sensitized all you want from blood, gore, mutilation but deep down you will be affected in seeing the terminal child oncology patients playing and smiling one day and then dying the next day.
Malcolm Merlyn Posted November 12, 2012 Posted November 12, 2012 Do you doctor types get de-sensitized to blood' date=' pain, suffering and death after a point? I know you guys do a remarkable and priceless job saving ives, but does it all affect you emotionally to witness so much tragedy, almost daily? I heard that depression rates among medical professionals is among the highest in all professions. Is that true?[/quote'] Depression among students is certainly high.Its more due to.the pressures of med school. In practising physicians depression is due to a high stress occupation combined with a very poot lifestyle. If we get emotionally attached then we will lose the ability to look after another patient if one dies. Once you see blood death every day it starts affecting you less.But i can still remember the first death that i saw.The screams of that patients little daughter still ring into my ears.
Malcolm Merlyn Posted November 12, 2012 Posted November 12, 2012 Yeah we have an excellent team. However, he lost an eye. He had lot of controlled substances on him. The cops booked him on Possession of Drugs and Intent to distribute charge. He's gone straight to jail. Wanted to score some weed from him :D Why do you always end up in the ER?Dont you have another dept to work with?
Ram Posted November 13, 2012 Posted November 13, 2012 Yes it is 100% true. Depression is very high among doctors which leads to 400-500 deaths per year...that's more than 1 a day. Usually suicide by men is 4 times higher than women in general but among physicians it's split almost equally. It's a silent depression that doesn't get treated due to fear of admitting to mental health problem on your record while there is a chance of losing your license. And yes we have to get de-sensitized to do our job properly...there is no time for emotion. I personally would sit at lunch, gulping a sandwich while studying cysts, tumors, unborn fetuses, bloating among the drowning john does :D ....I however, feel for the guys working the Pediatric Oncology. You can be de-sensitized all you want from blood, gore, mutilation but deep down you will be affected in seeing the terminal child oncology patients playing and smiling one day and then dying the next day. Depression among students is certainly high.Its more due to.the pressures of med school. In practising physicians depression is due to a high stress occupation combined with a very poot lifestyle. If we get emotionally attached then we will lose the ability to look after another patient if one dies. Once you see blood death every day it starts affecting you less.But i can still remember the first death that i saw.The screams of that patients little daughter still ring into my ears. That is very interesting. One of my previous roomie was a University gold-medalist doctor in India who is now doing his residency in the states. We used to have long conversations in the night, exchanging notes about each other's professions (obviously with me being a technologist and him being a doctor). During those conversations, I was stunned by the sheer calmness with which he would describe tackling life-death situations almost daily, especially when he was doing his rotation in a govt. hospital in India. When I probed him on how me manages to stay so detached, his answer was very similar to the one given by the two of you. Personally, I dont think I can ever be a good medical professional. I get stressed out just searching for my misplaced car-key. Juggling multiple patients at various levels of mortality will crush me. :--D Thanks Under bhai...yeah we're not the judge or jury. Technically, if the wounded cop and his shooter arrives at the same time, we're NOT suppose to prioritize between those two individuals. If the situation comes down to making a choice of saving 1 of the 2, we are suppose to decide based on the individual's possibility of survival but I'm sure that rule has been bent before due to fear of repercussion. Please - lets not even go there. I hate to generalize, but these days, I feel more insecure going to the doctor's. A few months ago, a friend of mine slipped and fell face first on concrete. As serious as it sounds, it was clear to us that he had some lacerations on his face and some swelling. But when we went to the hospital, the attending physician prescribed every test that there is in the medical book, including a complete eye-examination and a CT scan! When we told him that we werent so keen, they would not discharge my friend before we signed a written declaration that the Doc had prescribed all these precautionary tests and we chose not to take all of them. A few months ago, I was at the receiving end of this over-reach, as a simple digestive problem ended up in a bloody colonscopy, one full day of just drinking gatorade and that stupid liquid that gives you the run every 30 mins and 2 missed days at work! :mad:
punjabi_khota Posted November 13, 2012 Posted November 13, 2012 ^Medical malpractice can bankrupt doctors. Hence the 'overreach'.
Ram Posted November 13, 2012 Posted November 13, 2012 ^Medical malpractice can bankrupt doctors. Hence the 'overreach'. Yes, the same 'overreach' that ends up bankrupting the patients. I am not a medical guy any stretch of the imagination, but I dont think a few days of unusual bowel moments should mean a default colonscopy! And the bill for a day's worth of treatment? $6500..! P.S; Obviously, the insurance covered for most of it, but I still had to shell out of a significant amount.
nikred Posted November 13, 2012 Posted November 13, 2012 Yes it is 100% true. Depression is very high among doctors which leads to 400-500 deaths per year...that's more than 1 a day. Usually suicide by men is 4 times higher than women in general but among physicians it's split almost equally. It's a silent depression that doesn't get treated due to fear of admitting to mental health problem on your record while there is a chance of losing your license. And yes we have to get de-sensitized to do our job properly...there is no time for emotion. I personally would sit at lunch, gulping a sandwich while studying cysts, tumors, unborn fetuses, bloating among the drowning john does :D ....I however, feel for the guys working the Pediatric Oncology. You can be de-sensitized all you want from blood, gore, mutilation but deep down you will be affected in seeing the terminal child oncology patients playing and smiling one day and then dying the next day. Thanks for ruining my day. :((
Crookbond Posted November 13, 2012 Posted November 13, 2012 :WTF: First, NASDAQ and now Medical Professional Depression in a TGIF party thread! :facepalm:
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