Crookbond Posted September 7, 2012 Posted September 7, 2012 Why should I dislike Apple? I dont like their overpriced products and then they give statements like they do not care about India and Indian market then why should Indians give a sht about their products?:giggle: Fair enough and that's your POV and I respect that. But, just because you have a stand does not mean others POV's are sh!t. They have as much merit as yours do.
rkt.india Posted September 7, 2012 Author Posted September 7, 2012 Fair enough and that's your POV and I respect that. But' date= just because you have a stand does not mean others POV's are sh!t. They have as much merit as yours do. Where did I say that? Thing is look at Iphone4. You can get better but cheaper phones than that in the market.
Crookbond Posted September 7, 2012 Posted September 7, 2012 Where did I say that? Thing is look at Iphone4. You can get better but cheaper phones than that in the market. Personal preference.
jusarrived Posted September 7, 2012 Posted September 7, 2012 rtk , I agree with you on Apple being over priced ..but how can you endorse Microsoft products ? Apple atleast is original & their products are great ...Microsoft just copies , still churns out crappy products . I will soon be using Redhat on my laptop even for offcial purpose & already given my Ipad to my sis .. will lead a Apple free & a Windows free life , happily ever after :D
IKnowU Posted September 8, 2012 Posted September 8, 2012 ..Microsoft just copies , still churns out crappy products . And which products are they?
rkt.india Posted September 8, 2012 Author Posted September 8, 2012 rtk , I agree with you on Apple being over priced ..but how can you endorse Microsoft products ? Apple atleast is original & their products are great ...Microsoft just copies , still churns out crappy products . I will soon be using Redhat on my laptop even for offcial purpose & already given my Ipad to my sis .. will lead a Apple free & a Windows free life , happily ever after :D Where am I endorsing Microsoft product. It is Nokia product, not Microsoft. With regards to Microsoft, in India for normal user, Microsoft is the best. They make usable software, not hardware products.
rkt.india Posted September 8, 2012 Author Posted September 8, 2012 And which products are they? :two_thumbs_up:
Crookbond Posted September 8, 2012 Posted September 8, 2012 Where am I endorsing Microsoft product. It is Nokia product' date=' not Microsoft. With regards to Microsoft, in India for normal user, Microsoft is the best. [b']They make usable software, not hardware products. :hysterical: :hysterical: :hysterical: :hysterical:
IKnowU Posted September 8, 2012 Posted September 8, 2012 http://www.theverge.com/2012/9/7/3299784/nokia-lumia-920-pureview-camera-hi-res-photos :giggle: The software/tuning is still in beta version.
Crookbond Posted September 8, 2012 Posted September 8, 2012 Note that this is the mobile phone market not the camera market. Nokia needs to decide whom they are competing with Apple, Samsung or Nikon. You can build 41MP cameras in a mobile phone and gain zilch. :giggle: :hysterical: :hysterical: :hysterical: :hysterical:
IKnowU Posted September 8, 2012 Posted September 8, 2012 Note that this is the mobile phone market not the camera market. Nokia needs to decide whom they are competing with Apple, Samsung or Nikon. You can build 41MP cameras in a mobile phone and gain zilch. :giggle: Last time I checked Nokia are competing against everyone in everything they are capable of....... Tell us why your so mad....
Crookbond Posted September 8, 2012 Posted September 8, 2012 Last time I checked Nokia are competing against everyone in everything they are capable of....... Tell us why your so mad.... I am hardly mad. One thing I do not do is put my personal preference on others (I recommended a windows machine to someone in the other thread FFS). As a consumer, I want more choice & Nokia doing well augurs well for me. I want Nokia, Apple, Samsung all to do well - more competition is win for the consumer. But, that does not mean I throw a blind eye to corporations who are "misleading" or cheating. In this case, Nokia had no business to post images taken from a DSLR and project it as their phone's images. The apology from Nokia is also disingenuous by all means. But, I expect you to defend it & ignore take it to an excruciating discussion rather than taking it on the chin. As for the highlighted, Steve Jobs was once called to give an internal discussion at Yahoo in the early 2000s (I think by Jerry Yang not sure). This is what he said - "Yahoo! is a great company and you guys build amazing things. One thing I can't understand though is whether Yahoo! is a content company or technology company. Just pick one." PS - Can't find an attribution to the above.
IKnowU Posted September 8, 2012 Posted September 8, 2012 Is Apple a marketing company or a technology company. Just pick one.
IKnowU Posted September 8, 2012 Posted September 8, 2012 But, I expect you to defend it & ignore take it to an excruciating discussion rather than taking it on the chin. . I don't need to defend anything, what's happened has happened and all this will be forgotten in blink of a eye. And if you cant even take a straight up apology from Nokia itself. Then there isn't much anyone can do. The technology and its performance is there for everyone to see, if people like it they will buy it. And If they get their knickers twisted over a ad and don't buy it, who's loss is it? Nokia's of course, but also the consumer not making decisions rationally and potentially missing out for their own pleasure.
Crookbond Posted September 8, 2012 Posted September 8, 2012 I don't need to defend anything, what's happened has happened and all this will be forgotten in blink of a eye. And if you cant even take a straight up apology from Nokia itself. Then there isn't much anyone can do. The technology and its performance is there for everyone to see, if people like it they will buy it. And If they get their knickers twisted over a ad and don't buy it, who's loss is it? Nokia's of course, but also the consumer not making decisions rationally and potentially missing out for their own pleasure. Report - Video Fake Nokia - Sorry, Video was not genuine Report - Images Fake Nokia - Sorry, Images were not genuine :facepalm: Why do you wait to report? Just carry a disclaimer. Chalo, fine you must have forgot. Now, when the first reports happen if you are really concerned for the consumer you will also mention about the images and/or carry a disclaimer. But no, I will "wait and watch". Now the second report comes out, another apology is tendered. What do you call this? Ingenuity to the highest order. As the article you posted says, "Nokia is in damage control mode" and heck they should be. FWIW, that OIS is some very good technology and a great piece of hardware which Nokia's team has hardly done any justice to. :facepalm: The highlighted is some BS argument to support mediocrity. You can have 1 or 100 people to do that but if you are telling me that irrational choices help a company become the best valuable brand on this planet EVER then you should be freaking kidding me ! :haha: Accept it mate, Nokia phones were mediocre to an Apple or Samsung. They rested on their laurels and are now facing the sword of Damocles. Stephen Elop's letter in February 2011 to employees clearly states that.
IKnowU Posted September 8, 2012 Posted September 8, 2012 The highlighted is some BS argument to support mediocrity. You can have 1 or 100 people to do that but if you are telling me that irrational choices help a company become the best valuable brand on this planet EVER then you should be freaking kidding me ! :haha: Accept it mate, Nokia phones were mediocre to an Apple or Samsung. They rested on their laurels and are now facing the sword of Damocles. Stephen Elop's letter in February 2011 to employees clearly states that. Then tell me how Nokia had that reputation for the better part of the late 20th to 21st Century? You logic is twisted inside out over a misled ad, not really fake either considering it performs as 'advertised'.
Crookbond Posted September 8, 2012 Posted September 8, 2012 Then tell me how Nokia had that reputation for the better part of the late 20th to 21st Century? You logic is twisted inside out over a misled ad, not really fake either considering it performs as 'advertised'. Am I disputing that they were industry leaders earlier? :dontknow: Only a fool would do that. However, people who say that they are industry leaders now are also fools. I have seen you making this statement earlier too in another thread. Times change & currently Nokia are no longer the leaders. Are you telling me that Apple, Samsung got ahead of Nokia by ONLY "marketing" ? I hope for the sake of your brains you are not.
IKnowU Posted September 8, 2012 Posted September 8, 2012 Am I disputing that they were industry leaders earlier? :dontknow: Only a fool would do that. However, people who say that they are industry leaders now are also fools. I have seen you making this statement earlier too in another thread. Times change & currently Nokia are no longer the leaders. Are you telling me that Apple, Samsung got ahead of Nokia by ONLY "marketing" ? I hope for the sake of your brains you are not. Wow loaded statements much? :cantstop:
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