Zap_Brannigan Posted October 31, 2012 Posted October 31, 2012 It should because: Why the Indian Premier League is a bubble waiting to burst Very little facts, hyperbolic opinions and this is going to be true? If they just did a bit of googling, they would have learned that DLF's contract ended after the 1st 5 years and now it will be sold for double. DLF did not want that. If every time some company doesnt want to renew its contract due to rise in cost, then even the mighty valuable Indian team are in trouble considering that Sahara is getting out. Then should i say that Indian cricket is a bubble waiting to burst and all these test contracts will be cancelled? As long as everyone involved, the players, the franchises, the BCCI, the broadcasters, are making profit from IPL, it will do fine. Considering that more people turned in to watch it in 2012 compared to previous years, i really dont understand why anyone would think that this is a fad.
BeautifulGame Posted October 31, 2012 Posted October 31, 2012 It should because: Why the Indian Premier League is a bubble waiting to burst Keep dreaming :hysterical:
Magneto Posted October 31, 2012 Posted October 31, 2012 Keep dreaming :hysterical: I think the bubble may really burst 10 years from now when T-15 takes over :((
BeautifulGame Posted October 31, 2012 Posted October 31, 2012 I think the bubble may really burst 10 years from now when T-15 takes over :(( But there wont be any test cricket by then.:yay: So we can watch both T-15 and T-20
Magneto Posted October 31, 2012 Posted October 31, 2012 I'm actually itching to watch some timeless Tests. The final test of every Test series should be a timeless Test.
Sachin=GOD Posted October 31, 2012 Posted October 31, 2012 I'm actually itching to watch some timeless Tests. The final test of every Test series should be a timeless Test. I'd love that. Sadly I don't think it will ever happen again.
BeautifulGame Posted October 31, 2012 Posted October 31, 2012 I'm actually itching to watch some timeless Tests. The final test of every Test series should be a timeless Test. But what if the final test of a series in SSC, Columbo ?We then would need to play atleast 2 years arrive at a result. Poor players dont deserve that type of torture :((
BeautifulGame Posted October 31, 2012 Posted October 31, 2012 Seriously people dont even have patience for 5 days cricket thats why test cricket is dying. Imagine a timeless test match.Will just ensure test cricket becomes even more unpopular imo
Magneto Posted October 31, 2012 Posted October 31, 2012 Seriously people dont even have patience for 5 days cricket thats why test cricket is dying. Imagine a timeless test match.Will just ensure test cricket becomes even more unpopular imo This 'Test cricket is dying' slogan has been going on since the advent of ODIs. I don't see the number of Tests played each year going down drastically, despite IPL, CPL, BPL, APL and what not. Thirty years from now we'll be saying the same thing as well, and still the same number of Tests played each year would probably not change much.
Number Posted October 31, 2012 Posted October 31, 2012 I'm actually itching to watch some timeless Tests. The final test of every Test series should be a timeless Test. Kaun vehla stadium jayega dekhne. Imagine Chanderpaul and Trott going on forever, it will be a disaster on flat SC tracks.
BeautifulGame Posted October 31, 2012 Posted October 31, 2012 This 'Test cricket is dying' slogan has been going on since the advent of ODIs. I don't see the number of Tests played each year going down drastically, despite IPL, CPL, BPL, APL and what not. Thirty years from now we'll be saying the same thing as well, and still the same number of Tests played each year would probably not change much. Not sure if u are serious. Last time Eng played 4 tests with SA but this time 3 test series SA just played 2 test series against Aus (from 3 tests) NZL cut down the test series with SA to just 2 test series. India cut their 3 test series to 2 test series against NZL. U dont even need to talk about Srl attitude towards test cricket. All these reductions in this year alone.And virtually most most the matches are played to empty grounds.Boards dont do charity to carry on with these financially loss making test matches continuously. If test cricket want to survive it needs to make it financially self sustainable.Otherwise it is going to be out of existance in most countries.
Magneto Posted October 31, 2012 Posted October 31, 2012 Not sure if u are serious. Last time Eng played 4 tests with SA but this time 3 test series SA just played 2 test series against Aus (from 3 tests) NZL cut down the test series with SA to just 2 test series. India cut their 3 test series to 2 test series against NZL. U dont even need to talk about Srl attitude towards test cricket. All these reductions in this year alone.And virtually most most the matches are played to empty grounds.Boards dont do charity to carry on with these financially loss making test matches continuously. If test cricket want to survive it needs to make it financially self sustainable.Otherwise it is going to be out of existance in most countries. 1) Test matches are not loss-making propositions. Gate money forms a minor part of the revenues; television broadcast, team sponsorships etc take care of most of the finances. 2) Calculate the number of Tests India played between 1991-1995 and the number of Tests India played between 2007-2012 and let me know if there is any major difference. Check out the 'maramari' between channels to get the TV broadcast rights - bulk of which is always Test cricket.
Magneto Posted October 31, 2012 Posted October 31, 2012 Kaun vehla stadium jayega dekhne. Imagine Chanderpaul and Trott going on forever' date=' it will be a disaster on flat SC tracks.[/quote'] If you want to enter Brabourne Stadium to watch the absolutely meaningless 3rd day of the practice game tomorrow, you'll have to wait for at least 20 minutes in the queue to get in. :P
BeautifulGame Posted October 31, 2012 Posted October 31, 2012 1) Test matches are not loss-making propositions. Gate money forms a minor part of the revenues; television broadcast, team sponsorships etc take care of most of the finances. True.But no sport survives when played in empty stands.When there is no atmosphere in the ground most fans lose interest in watching from TV too.That is what exactly happening with test cricket. 2) Calculate the number of Tests India played between 1991-1995 and the number of Tests India played between 2007-2012 and let me know if there is any major difference. Unfair comparison.In 90s not many countries were interested to play india away from home but now we are biggest draw financially for every board even ECB. Better comparison would be how many tests are played in a series this time when compared with last time or the cycle before. How many 2- test series u did see before 2007 or in the 90s compared to now? Check out the 'maramari' between channels to get the TV broadcast rights - bulk of which is always Test cricket. Bulk of air time comes from test cricket.But bulk of revenue comes from ODI.And thats exactly why tests are becoming financiall unviable for countries like Srilanka Nzl West indies Pakistan and bangladesh.From what i remember only Inida Aus and England make decent profit out of test cricket.Even Sa isnt in that good position in regards to profits from test cricket IIRC. Just check the difference in cost of an add slot btw tests and ODIs in India.
BeautifulGame Posted October 31, 2012 Posted October 31, 2012 If you want to enter Brabourne Stadium to watch the absolutely meaningless 3rd day of the practice game tomorrow' date=' you'll have to wait for at least 20 minutes in the queue to get in. :P[/quote'] Actually the crowd for 3rd and 4th (sunday and saturday) for the test match btw Ind and Nzl in bangalore last month was amazing. People were waiting for more than to get in if they purchase tickets from counter.I purchased tickets online so got lucky :P But these are rare occurrences imo.Happens once in a blue moon.
Magneto Posted October 31, 2012 Posted October 31, 2012 Actually the crowd for 3rd and 4th (sunday and saturday) for the test match btw Ind and Nzl in bangalore last month was amazing. People were waiting for more than to get in if they purchase tickets from counter.I purchased tickets online so got lucky :P But these are rare occurrences imo.Happens once in a blue moon. I'll show you the numbers for these four Tests against England :weights: The Wankhede Test against WI had 70-80 percent occupancy most of the time. I don't want to explain the revenue model regarding the Tests and ODIs too much - just remember there are 15 days of Test cricket for a 3-Test series and 5 days of ODIs. Though the ODIs ad rates are higher, advertisers make bulk deals out of Test matches resulting in meaty revenues for broadcasting companies. Had you done the 90s/2010s math, you'd have understood that numerically the number of Tests are not really going down. You can apply the same logic to other countries as well, and find out whether there is really a decline in the number of Test matches that are being played.
Crookbond Posted November 1, 2012 Posted November 1, 2012 Saurav, Do you think ODIs are actually suffering rather than Test matches?
Magneto Posted November 1, 2012 Posted November 1, 2012 Saurav' date=' Do you think ODIs are actually suffering rather than Test matches?[/quote'] I think all forms of cricket are making money. ODIs might have suffered had India not won the 2011 WC, but with India's general domination in ODIs, it is obviously prime property. This year even Ranji group matches are going to be telecast. The revenue model is obviously in place otherwise BCCI wouldn't have bothered. The media also keeps the interest alive by adding masala to everything. Just see the kind of nautanki that happens on every news channel at the end of a day's play (in Tests); and see how much money the news channels spend by paying the so-called experts match after match.
Crookbond Posted November 1, 2012 Posted November 1, 2012 I think all forms of cricket are making money. ODIs might have suffered had India not won the 2011 WC, but with India's general domination in ODIs, it is obviously prime property. This year even Ranji group matches are going to be telecast. The revenue model is obviously in place otherwise BCCI wouldn't have bothered. The media also keeps the interest alive by adding masala to everything. Just see the kind of nautanki that happens on every news channel at the end of a day's play (in Tests); and see how much money the news channels spend by paying the so-called experts match after match. How about the empty stadiums against England in India 2011? What do you think is the reason - view fatigue or something else?
Magneto Posted November 2, 2012 Posted November 2, 2012 How about the empty stadiums against England in India 2011? What do you think is the reason - view fatigue or something else? Viewer fatigue is surely the main cause. An average dedicated stadium-goer goes to the stadium only few times a year, and if he going for IPL matches 3 times a year, he'll not watch more than one ODI or a Test from the stadium. But going to stadiums is not the only form of cricket consumption. As long as people are watching it on TV, debating it online, commenting on Facebook/Twitter, watching experts speaking on news channels and are generally interested in it, the commercial aspect of cricket is truly alive and kicking.
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