Lord Posted January 8, 2013 Share Posted January 8, 2013 Warner is shite when there is swing. In Australia there are tracks which are flat and he does mostly well there. But dont complain the next time' date=' India are 20/5 in first 10 overs because we load up the side with bashers who dont have any idea of staying at the wicket and building partnerships when the going is tough.[/quote'] lol how much have u watched Dhawan to make that impression?as I said,we need a dasher too at start to make use of powerplays.India are 20/5 anyway due to technical Gambhir.tuk ruk batsmen wont get us anywhere with our poor bowling,we have to take chance with aggresive players Link to comment
Lord Posted January 8, 2013 Share Posted January 8, 2013 Dhawan bats like he is felling trees. Mediocre techique that will get exposed at highest levels. Not good enough thats like Dhoni.ood enough for me Link to comment
King Tendulkar Posted January 8, 2013 Share Posted January 8, 2013 ^ You cant just look at one match against touring team. All kinds of players have done well in such matches, does not mean they should get selcted. I have sen dhawan and dont rate his tebhique at highest level, others may diasgree but he is a tree feller. S Tiwary is another who wont be able to do it highest level Link to comment
Dumbbells Posted January 8, 2013 Share Posted January 8, 2013 Unmukt chand should be selected. Shikhar dhawan is a medicore player these days. Link to comment
King Tendulkar Posted January 8, 2013 Share Posted January 8, 2013 thats like Dhoni.ood enough for me dhoni cant do it overseas, so not good example Link to comment
King Tendulkar Posted January 8, 2013 Share Posted January 8, 2013 Unmukt chand should be selected. Shikhar dhawan is a medicore player these days. chand is noooooooooooo way ready Link to comment
NareshK Posted January 8, 2013 Share Posted January 8, 2013 This century against international attack was in flat conditions. England scored close to 300 and Delhi chased it down within 50 overs. Now, I'm not taking anything away from his century but what I'm pointing out is there should be two batsmen who are solid in the top order because there are enough hitters in the side already. What we lack are batsmen who can stay at the wicket when wickets are falling and when conditions are not ideal for batting. Dhawan doesnt seem to fit the bill as his footwork and technique is limited from what I've seen of him. Link to comment
Lord Posted January 8, 2013 Share Posted January 8, 2013 dhoni cant do it overseas' date=' so not good example[/quote'] BS.check out his numbers in Aus,Eng,NZ Link to comment
King Tendulkar Posted January 8, 2013 Share Posted January 8, 2013 BS.check out his numbers in Aus' date='Eng,NZ[/quote'] We all know what happens when dhoni is presented with swinging ball or bit of pace and bounce. His test record away from home is tragic. Link to comment
Lord Posted January 8, 2013 Share Posted January 8, 2013 This century against international attack was in flat conditions. England scored close to 300 and Delhi chased it down within 50 overs. Now, I'm not taking anything away from his century but what I'm pointing out is there should be two batsmen who are solid in the top order because there are enough hitters in the side already. What we lack are batsmen who can stay at the wicket when wickets are falling and when conditions are not ideal for batting. Dhawan doesnt seem to fit the bill as his footwork and technique is limited from what I've seen of him. yes,Rahane n Pujara are that kind of batsmen,but we dont ALL of them to be like that.we need stroke players too,who can play aggresively n hammer the bowling in powerplays wen the pitch is flat Link to comment
Lord Posted January 8, 2013 Share Posted January 8, 2013 We all know what happens when dhoni is presented with swinging ball or bit of pace and bounce. His test record away from home is tragic. are we talking about test matches?:facepalm: Link to comment
Dumbbells Posted January 8, 2013 Share Posted January 8, 2013 chand is noooooooooooo way ready Noooooooo. He is ready. He smashed 120+ n the u19 world cup finals facing 4 aussie pace bowlers who were bowling 140+. He should be selected for Odis. Same thing was said about sehwag when he got selected for idnian team directly form u19 squad. Look what he has achieved over the years. Gauguly would have selected Unmukt right away. Link to comment
Number Posted January 8, 2013 Share Posted January 8, 2013 are we talking about test matches?:facepalm: Dhoni won't survive against good pace bowlers in ODIs either if he bats in top 3. Link to comment
NareshK Posted January 8, 2013 Share Posted January 8, 2013 Dhoni won't survive against good pace bowlers in ODIs either if he bats in top 3. Not true. Dhoni doesnt have a problem with short pitch bowling or consistent bounce. Same with Kohli, Rohit, Sehwag, Yuvraj etc. Their only problem is swing and its a typical problem of most SC batsmen. When India tours overseas, they will make sure to give pitches which have grass in it. Only way to counter that is to have batsmen with good technique who can counter swing. Link to comment
Lord Posted January 8, 2013 Share Posted January 8, 2013 Dhoni won't survive against good pace bowlers in ODIs either if he bats in top 3. he has done well in few games hes batted in top 3 Link to comment
Lord Posted January 8, 2013 Share Posted January 8, 2013 Not true. Dhoni doesnt have a problem with short pitch bowling or consistent bounce. Same with Kohli' date=' Rohit, Sehwag, Yuvraj etc. Their only problem is swing and its a typical problem of most SC batsmen. When India tours overseas, they will make sure to give pitches which have grass in it. Only way to counter that is to have batsmen with good technique who can counter swing.[/quote'] I agree with that for Tests.I dont think anybody prepares greentop in ODIs nowadays.ODI pitches are quite flat.dont expect greentops in WC Link to comment
indiaregulator Posted January 8, 2013 Share Posted January 8, 2013 who is bell ? oh , ajmal's bunny who is sachin? :hmmm: oh, andersons bunny :hysterical: Link to comment
NareshK Posted January 8, 2013 Share Posted January 8, 2013 ^^If they do, we wont have any answers. Link to comment
Lord Posted January 8, 2013 Share Posted January 8, 2013 ^^If they do' date=' we wont have any answers.[/quote'] we would.Rahane n Pujara.but if the conditions are flat as expected.we need people to exploit them Link to comment
NareshK Posted January 8, 2013 Share Posted January 8, 2013 we would.Rahane n Pujara.but if the conditions are flat as expected.we need people to exploit them They both seem to be test material but do they have any experience batting in conditions which are helpful for seamers ? Their records in FC are also in Indian conditions which are not conducive to swing bowling. This is where some county experience can come in handy but these two guys have none of that. Not just in ODIs, India lost in tests in England and Australia because the batsmen had no clue how to bat when the ball moved around. We will continue to lose there unless the batsmen learn to adapt. What are they doing to rectify this problem ? Link to comment
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