Irani Trophy 2013 ( Feb 6-10)

[rkt.india]

Aakash Chopra ✔ @cricketaakash Both Dhawal & Javed bowling at least a foot short..perhaps, waiting for the SG Test ball get a little old, for thats when it starts swinging

Dhawal bowled similar in the final as well. Thakuar bowled full and got creamed. This is not England where you bowl full to move in the air. Here you get seam movement rather than swing.

[Cevno]

Dhawan lucky there. Poor shot.

[Cevno]

Aakash Chopra ‏@cricketaakash Did Kapil Pa just call Vijay--a great cricketer?? Please tell me that I heard it wrong...Is 'great' the new 'good'?? #iranitrophy :hysterical:

[Pagalpanti]

Sehwag probably saw the green track and sat out. :facepalm:

[Cevno]

Shami maybe being saved to play against Australia ?

[Cevno]

That was out. Vijay lucky boy,

[Cevno]

And that was pad first again. Vijay luck...

[NareshK]

Mumbai doesnt have a good bowling attack. Decent seamers would have made the ball talk on this pitch.

[rkt.india]

Mumbai doesnt have a good bowling attack. Decent seamers would have made the ball talk on this pitch.

Its a flat. Track in the last match was helping seamers, not this, grass is just an illusion here because moisture is not there. I have seen several track at Wankhede which looks grassy and then when seamers bowl, there does not happen much like this one.

[Cevno]

Even Nayar looks better than Thakur.

[Cevno]

Other bowlers who are quicker need to learn from the length Nayar is bowling.

[NareshK]

Its a flat. Track in the last match was helping seamers' date=' not this, grass is just an illusion here because moisture is not there. I have seen several track at Wankhede which looks grassy and then when seamers bowl, there does not happen much like this one.[/quote'] Bowlers dont have enough pace and bowling too short and not enough in the right areas. Of course, as we approach towards March, the heat will be more and the pitch will get drier and there wont be moisture in the wicket to help seam bowling. But still, there is some swing but bowling is not good enough IMO.

[Cevno]

Lucky 50 for VJ. Probably played himself in the India squad.

[rkt.india]

Bowlers dont have enough pace and bowling too short and not enough in the right areas. Of course' date=' as we approach towards March, the heat will be more and the pitch will get drier and there wont be moisture in the wicket to help seam bowling. But still, there is some swing but bowling is not good enough IMO.[/quote'] Same bowler Kulkarni was getting so much from the wicket in last match. Even if you bowl just short of length, you should get movement if you hit the seam. Bowling too full, you dont get much movement on Indian pitches unless it has a lot of moisture which is not there. You dont get swing here by by bowling full but seam movement by hitting the seam. Thakur bowled fuller but got hit for runs.

[Cevno]

Same bowler Kulkarni was getting so much from the wicket in last match. Even if you bowl just short of length' date=' you should get movement if you hit the seam. Bowling too full, you dont get much movement on Indian pitches unless it has a lot of moisture which is not there. You dont get swing here by by bowling full but seam movement by hitting the seam. Thakur bowled fuller but got hit for runs.[/quote'] Thakur is ordinary in terms of seam position/wrist position, bowls too full and too slow. Correct length is somewhere in between. Similar to Nayar today.

[rkt.india]

Thakur is ordinary in terms of seam position/wrist position, bowls too full and too slow. Correct length is somewhere in between. Similar to Nayar today.

Thakur has very good seam and wrist. What are you talking about? He was just too full which does not work on these pitches. Short of length is what works in India unless you can move the new ball like PK and BK and plating in north India in cold weather, fuller length in England, Aus, and SA.

[Old guy]

Good bowlers find length quickly on diff conditions..

[Cevno]

Thakur has very good seam and wrist. What are you talking about? He was just too full which does not work on these pitches. Short of length is what works in India unless you can move the new ball like PK and BK and plating in north India in cold weather' date= fuller length in England, Aus, and SA.

No he doesn't. HE just doesn't put any action on the ball. Yeah, you bowl shorter in India then in England/SA and the rest but Mumbai bowlers have been too short. They should be bowling in the good length region, while you bowl fuller of that in other countries.

[Cevno]

Btw, ideal lengths for England, SA and Australia are different too. Australian pitches offer more bounce and seam movement compared to England where there is more swing.

[Old guy]

Btw' date=' ideal lengths for England, SA and Australia are different too. Australian pitches offer more bounce and seam movement compared to England where there is more swing.[/quote'] Pitches are diff but u have to bowl full to get wickets in both countries