Malcolm Merlyn Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 LOL at Preet Bharara's statement. He conceds that US helped the maid abscond and helped her family flee to US.Says India was trying to intimidate the family by starting cases againist them.It is not US's concern about what India does to Indians in India.This is not going to blow away soon it seems.After Kerry's concillatory call yesterday Bharara's statement and his massive disregard for India's sovereignity will complicate these matters further. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
someone Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 Their are so so many angles to this especially when they went to great heights for the maid and her family. Like one angle is that there is much more to what meets the eye. As the last time, US worked so hard was with Rabinder Singh (CIA mole) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganeshran Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 Raymond Davis didn't get away - he was convicted in Pakistan court. The deceased family agreed to take "blood money" and hence' date=' he was allowed to leave.[/quote'] That is not justice, it was a barbaric religious rule where the rich are basically allowed to get away with anything. For heinous crimes, the family of the victims cannot just pardon the criminal. Same with the other case. Even for heinous crimes , the United States has in the past ensured that its diplomats gets treated with cotton gloves and get away with a slap on the wrist once back home. If Devyani is guilty of fraud, she should be punished in India. However diplomatic niceties should be kept in mind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuge Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 What we are missing here is America says Raymond Davis has the immunity because he was working with American consulate ,but the fact is he was just a stooge of CIA on contract basis .I wonder if Vienna Convention for diplomats is applicable for US diplomats ,and it isn't applicable for diplomats of other countries .US is a hippocrate of highest order . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zanjeer Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 Where was the outrage when an American woman was gang raped in India? We are the biggest hypocrite in the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beetle Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 After Mayawati revealed that the Indian diplomat was dalit' date= Rahul Gandhi got ready for dinner at her home. But maid is not there to cook. from fakingnews :hysterical::hysterical::hysterical::hysterical::hysterical: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm Merlyn Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 I woudnt be surprised if the Maid comes out to be a CIA mole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raghav_12 Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 Mayawati really chips in.. Devyani Khobragade is a Dalit, so Centre reacted late: Mayawati http://ibnlive.in.com/news/devyani-khobragade-is-a-dalit-so-centre-reacted-late-mayawati/440249-3.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crookbond Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 Statement Of Manhattan U.S. Attorney Preet Bharara On U.S. V. Devyani Khobragade http://www.justice.gov/usao/nys/pressreleases/December13/KhobragadeStatement.php Some points made in his report + Devyani signed a second contract which wasn't revealed to the US government and deleted the part “abide by all Federal, state, and local laws in the U.S.” + Devyani wasn't arrested in front of her children, phone not seized according to standard procedures + Devyani was allowed to arrange for child care, she was offered coffee/food + Devyani was strip searched by a US marshal according to standard operating procedures and all American citizens go through this I just can't wrap around my head in this case. Even Devyani indeed signed the second contract and messed up with the language she should be taken to task. This is unacceptable behavior by a diplomat who is representing India. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crookbond Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 That is not justice, it was a barbaric religious rule where the rich are basically allowed to get away with anything. For heinous crimes, the family of the victims cannot just pardon the criminal. Same with the other case. Even for heinous crimes , the United States has in the past ensured that its diplomats gets treated with cotton gloves and get away with a slap on the wrist once back home. If Devyani is guilty of fraud, she should be punished in India. However diplomatic niceties should be kept in mind The question is - Was that the law of the land in Pakistan? If yes then there shouldn't be any issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crookbond Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 For people interested, here is the USMS directives for prisoner custody - http://www.usmarshals.gov/foia/Directives-Policy/prisoner_ops/body_searches.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm Merlyn Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/devyani-khobragade-case-visa-issue-indian-diplomat-arrest/1/331838.html People need to read this.Seems the US authorities were hand in glove with the maid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm Merlyn Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 Statement Of Manhattan U.S. Attorney Preet Bharara On U.S. V. Devyani Khobragade http://www.justice.gov/usao/nys/pressreleases/December13/KhobragadeStatement.php Some points made in his report + Devyani signed a second contract which wasn't revealed to the US government and deleted the part “abide by all Federal, state, and local laws in the U.S.†+ Devyani wasn't arrested in front of her children, phone not seized according to standard procedures + Devyani was allowed to arrange for child care, she was offered coffee/food + Devyani was strip searched by a US marshal according to standard operating procedures and all American citizens go through this I just can't wrap around my head in this case. Even Devyani indeed signed the second contract and messed up with the language she should be taken to task. This is unacceptable behavior by a diplomat who is representing India. You have missed a point here where Mr Bharara has accepted that US evacuated the Maid's family from India.Now who gave US or Mr Bharara the right to interfere in proceedings of another sovereign nation and evacuate non US citizens from there.Sounds fishy isnt it. India shouldnt let this go easily.You cannot play with sovereignity of India,we are not a banana republic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuge Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 You have missed a point here where Mr Bharara has accepted that US evacuated the Maid's family from India.Now who gave US or Mr Bharara the right to interfere in proceedings of another sovereign nation and evacuate non US citizens from there.Sounds fishy isnt it. India shouldnt let this go easily.You cannot play with sovereignity of India,we are not a banana republic. There can be many interpretation of the same .One can be to give security to the victims husband ,and kid, other can be what you said above . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm Merlyn Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 There can be many interpretation of the same .One can be to give security to the victims husband ' date='and kid, other can be what you said above .[/quote'] Under no circumstances can you interfere in matters of another country. Sent from my GT-I9500 using Tapatalk 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beetle Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 There is something definitely fishy here. US doesn't go this far for non American citizens..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crookbond Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 You have missed a point here where Mr Bharara has accepted that US evacuated the Maid's family from India.Now who gave US or Mr Bharara the right to interfere in proceedings of another sovereign nation and evacuate non US citizens from there.Sounds fishy isnt it. India shouldnt let this go easily.You cannot play with sovereignity of India,we are not a banana republic. Sir - There is a special visa category in US which grants asylum. Even India has it - like it or not. US can grant visa to anyone they want to. India has no business interfering with it, if that's how you like to play ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm Merlyn Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 There is something definitely fishy here. US doesn't go this far for non American citizens..... Is it a coincidence that the maid was previously employed with a senior diplomat of US embassy and that her father in law and mother in law also work in the US embassy. Sent from my GT-I9500 using Tapatalk 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crookbond Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 You have missed a point here where Mr Bharara has accepted that US evacuated the Maid's family from India.Now who gave US or Mr Bharara the right to interfere in proceedings of another sovereign nation and evacuate non US citizens from there.Sounds fishy isnt it. India shouldnt let this go easily.You cannot play with sovereignity of India,we are not a banana republic. Sir - There is a special visa category in US which grants asylum. Even India has it - like it or not. US can grant visa to anyone they want to. India has no business interfering with it, if that's how you like to play ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm Merlyn Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 Sir - There is a special visa category in US which grants asylum. Even India has it - like it or not. US can grant visa to anyone they want to. India has no business interfering with it' date=' if that's how you like to play ball.[/quote'] These people were in India and not US and US evacuated them from India.There is no rule where you can blatantly fly citizens of anotyer country out of that country with disregards to its local laws.Thats how US plays isnt it. Sent from my GT-I9500 using Tapatalk 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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