Sidhoni Posted February 27, 2014 Posted February 27, 2014 India 278/6 in 40 ovs, going very strong. Samson ^7*(56) ; Iyer 66*(45) ; Bains 74(68)
G_B_ Posted February 27, 2014 Posted February 27, 2014 India slipped up against England these boys are much better than what their position suggests. But thats the world cup for you. There are no second chances. You need to bring your A game all the time to the knockouts. This reminds me of the 1987 world cup. A tournament which India should have won.
Sidhoni Posted February 27, 2014 Author Posted February 27, 2014 India slipped up against England these boys are much better than what their position suggests. But thats the world cup for you. There are no second chances. You need to bring your A game all the time to the knockouts. This reminds me of the 1987 world cup. A tournament which India should have won. Probably Zol's captaincy hurt us. Iyer should have played ahead of Bhui when it mattered. Then that 49th over to Hooda. The abuses didn't help either.
G_B_ Posted February 27, 2014 Posted February 27, 2014 Probably Zol's captaincy hurt us. Iyer should have played ahead of Bhui when it mattered. Then that 49th over to Hooda. The abuses didn't help either. yup the english lads knew how to get under the Indian's skins. Zol did not captain well. As you said the Hooda over when he had other options did not make sense. Zol himself has had a poor WC. Lost form at the crucial time.
Sidhoni Posted February 27, 2014 Author Posted February 27, 2014 yup the english lads knew how to get under the Indian's skins. Zol did not captain well. As you said the Hooda over when he had other options did not make sense. Zol himself has had a poor WC. Lost form at the crucial time. Yes he probably can't have the same authority over the team if he himself is struggling. BTW this loss doesn't mean much. We won the U19 WC last time around but there is yet to be anyone from that team even close to the national side and on the other hand from this side I can see Samson and Zol playing for us within next 2-3 years probably or at least in the radar of selectors..
G_B_ Posted February 27, 2014 Posted February 27, 2014 The last WC was 2 years ago so the boys at max must be 21-22 , you cant expect people to be drafted from under 19 to senior side. Kohli was the exception. 2016 onwards then maybe you can make a call then. Under 19 WC winning squads thus far have given us yuvi, kohli and sir as big established players.
Sidhoni Posted February 27, 2014 Author Posted February 27, 2014 The last WC was 2 years ago so the boys at max must be 21-22 , you cant expect people to be drafted from under 19 to senior side. Kohli was the exception. 2016 onwards then maybe you can make a call then. Under 19 WC winning squads thus far have given us yuvi, kohli and sir as big established players. Kaif, I Pathan
rkt.india Posted February 27, 2014 Posted February 27, 2014 Yes he probably can't have the same authority over the team if he himself is struggling. BTW this loss doesn't mean much. We won the U19 WC last time around but there is yet to be anyone from that team even close to the national side and on the other hand from this side I can see Samson and Zol playing for us within next 2-3 years probably or at least in the radar of selectors.. I do not see Zol is good enough to play for India. He will have to do a lot. Samson, Sarafaraz, Iyer, Hooda, Avesh, Monu, and Chama are real good long-term prospects.
rkt.india Posted February 27, 2014 Posted February 27, 2014 The last WC was 2 years ago so the boys at max must be 21-22 , you cant expect people to be drafted from under 19 to senior side. Kohli was the exception. 2016 onwards then maybe you can make a call then. Under 19 WC winning squads thus far have given us yuvi, kohli and sir as big established players. Raina, Karthik, Kaif, Pathan, Pujara, Rahane, Ishant, Dhawan all made their name first through U19. Rahane and Ishant were part of 2008 U19 teams, respectively. Before Ishant could play U19 WC in 2008, he was selected to play for India. Rahane also played matches fr U19 but oculd not make the final 15.
Sidhoni Posted February 27, 2014 Author Posted February 27, 2014 I do not see Zol is good enough to play for India. He will have to do a lot. Samson' date=' Sarafaraz, Iyer, Hooda, Avesh, Monu, and Chama are real good long-term prospects.[/quote'] Yes he isn't ready now but if he works a bit he can be a contender. Not in 2-3 years but in 5 years probably?
Sidhoni Posted February 27, 2014 Author Posted February 27, 2014 Chanders' son batting right now. They still need 250 odd runs in 34 overs @ 7.4 RPO with 9 wkts in hand.
G_B_ Posted February 27, 2014 Posted February 27, 2014 Raina' date=' Karthik, Kaif, Pathan, Pujara,[b'] Rahane, Ishant, Dhawan all made their name first through U19. Rahane and Ishant were part of 2008 U19 teams, respectively. Before Ishant could play U19 WC in 2008, he was selected to play for India. Rahane also played matches fr U19 but oculd not make the final 15. Look i am not saying good players dont make it through under 19 to the international side. But i think out of every team playing the under 19 world cup as a tournament 2-3 make it to the international first team. In that sense under 25s might be of more value considering cricketers are more matured.
TNAmarkFrmIndia Posted February 27, 2014 Posted February 27, 2014 I do not see Zol is good enough to play for India. He will have to do a lot. Samson' date= Sarafaraz, Iyer, Hooda, Avesh, Monu, and Chama are real good long-term prospects. He has been India's highest run-scorer in U19 one-day cricket with an average of around 45. Don't let one bad tournament fool you.
ami123 Posted February 28, 2014 Posted February 28, 2014 I do not see Zol is good enough to play for India. He will have to do a lot. Samson' date=' Sarafaraz, Iyer, Hooda, Avesh, Monu, and Chama are real good long-term prospects.[/quote'] Too early to say this. Players mature at different times. The next 2-4 years are cricial for kids this age
rkt.india Posted February 28, 2014 Posted February 28, 2014 He has been India's highest run-scorer in U19 one-day cricket with an average of around 45. Don't let one bad tournament fool you. That is because he has played for 2 different U19 teams and 2 U19 WCs. He played more matches so scored more runs. There is nothing special about it. He could not do it when it mattered the most. That is where Unmukt was miles ahead of any of these U19 players who scored the most no. of 100s by an U19 batsman and that too most of them in knockouts. He always thrived under pressure.
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