Viv Richards vs. Dennis Lillee

[kabira]

>FACT remains, Sachin has said the same 'great player, priviledge to watch/play with them, etc etc' when he is asked a comparative question against anybody, EXCEPT Bradman, where Sachin CATEGORICALLY said that he is nowhere close to being as good as Bradman. He has NEVER said that for anyone else, except in Bradman's case, so by Sachin's OWN words, Bradman > Sachin and i don't think any of your opinions count for much when it contradicts Sachin's own assessment about his batting. two different things..here...if someone is his contemporary, no player will say that he is better than xyz..now for the ex-players, most cricketers hate comparison..Sachin has said that even Richards was better blah blah or he has said Sunny has better technique.. this means nothing to us fans...

[Guest HariSampath]

>Sachin averaged 54 in Australia in tests, and 62 in England, in tests. >Well if you think those are what matters according to me ...... >Bradman averaged 102 in England in Tests, and 98 in Australia LOL good, we are getting somewhere...lets assume sachin never played SA, will you assume that his average will be similar to that of australia?

There is no need to assume as we have proper stats to give his real performance

[kabira]

< Not having the best eyesight doesn't mean squat, especially when you can compensate for it like Bradman did. ok..

[kabira]

>There is no need to assume as we have proper stats to give his real performance huh...ok what will be sachin's average in Bermuda, Bermuda will be test nation in 20 years..

[Gambit]

Perhaps...but it hardly matters if you know how to compensate for it. Clive Lloyd faced down many a great bowler wearing horn-rimmed glasses and being almost completely blind without his glasses....and yet, for the latter part of his career, he out-did the far more 'quick-eyed' Viv, Greenidge, Haynes, Kalli, etc.

Huh? I used that fact tongue in cheek in response to Hari's post.

[Bongosamaj]

two different things..here...if someone is his contemporary, no player will say that he is better than xyz..now for the ex-players, most cricketers hate comparison..Sachin has said that even Richards was better blah blah or he has said Sunny has better technique..

Sachin has never said Viv was a better batsman or Sunny was a better batsman. But he has said Bradman was FAR better than him categorically.

this means nothing to us fans...

Ofcourse not...fans are blind worshippers intent to proving their point, even when their "God' says otherwise. Same with Lara fans - Lara himself said Sachin is better, yet they won't concede the point. Typical fan-mentality. Bottomline is, Bradman is better- I know it, the average aussie knows it, most neutral cricket fans know this and Sachin HIMSELF knows this. End of story.

[Guest HariSampath]

< Not having the best eyesight doesn't mean squat, especially when you can compensate for it like Bradman did. ok..

Well a player wearing glasses will always have better eyesight in effect. This is because all humans have at least marginally faulty vision, which will never be discovered. In the case of corrected vision, the effective sight is 20/20.... so a lloyd wearing glasses is technically with a better effective vision than a Richards without glasses

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[kabira]

>Bottomline is, Bradman is better- I know it, the average aussie knows it, most neutral cricket fans know this and Sachin HIMSELF knows this. End of story. what a gem!! are you planning to post this as wifans?

[Guest HariSampath]

>There is no need to assume as we have proper stats to give his real performance huh...ok what will be sachin's average in Bermuda, Bermuda will be test nation in 20 years..

Probably around 10 to 15 because Sachin will be 55 in 20 years :D

[Bongosamaj]

are you planning to post this as wifans?

Relevance to this thread ? Or are we down to derailing the topic when you cannot come up with a better quip ?

[Guest HariSampath]

or Kenya or Namibia or Ireland or Scotland .... :hysterical: :giggle::giggle:

so you have no answrs about sachin's test and ODI stats I gave ? Thought so :two_thumbs_up:

[kabira]

>Relevance to this thread ? Or are we down to derailing the topic when you cannot come up with a better quip ? teaching you a lesson, you were the one who told Hari about some other thread, din't you...was trying to teach you lesson on how it feels to bring irrelavelence

[kabira]

>Probably around 10 to 15 because Sachin will be 55 in 20 years should we assume Bradman would have averaged 0.994 in India because he would n't have been able to even hold but

[Guest HariSampath]

>Probably around 10 to 15 because Sachin will be 55 in 20 years should we assume Bradman would have averaged 0.994 in India because he would n't have been able to even hold but

No, he would have probably averaged 180 or so in India, if he had toured in 1948, because thats what he was averaging against India at that time

[Bongosamaj]

teaching you a lesson, you were the one who told Hari about some other thread, din't you...was trying to teach you lesson on how it feels to bring irrelavelence

What i said was related to the thread and its participants...what you are saying doesn't relate in the slightest.

[kabira]

>What i said was related to the thread and its participants...what you are saying doesn't relate in the slightest. if you are telling me that this was relevant to this thread "Dude, give up already. You are trying to argue with a chap who doesn't accept precise verbatim quote from a mathematics textbook(when page #, author, name of the book and ISBN# is provided) as proof in a mathematical debate. What chance do you have really, when a math professor writing a math textbook is not acceptable to this chap ?!? I hope you realize what you are getting into and who you are arguing with here...." then let me tell you, you are wrong and its us (mods) who decide..

[kabira]

>No, he would have probably averaged 180 or so in India, if he had toured in 1948, because thats what he was averaging against India at that time so going by same logic, he would have averaged big fat zero if had toured Pakistan..because at that time he was averaging nothing against Pakistan.. Point is this... "No one can predict what bradman will avg. in India. India is not easiest place to bat..some below average players make tons of runs here and some great batters have failed to showcase their talent..

[Bongosamaj]

then let me tell you, you are wrong and its us (mods) who decide..

You (mods) deciede what is abuse/what isn't abuse. Not what is relevant and what isn't. And yes, it was relevant because it was directed towards the fundamental nexus of the argument between two posters.

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