Moeen Ali- Double standards

[Sarkar]

Who are you to tell who should we support this is the same guy who was wearing save gaza bands during the test series i bet when Pakistan starts playing against England he will be wearing Save Pakistan bands.Neither Bopara Nor Panesar Nor Moeen Ali do not represent us my hero is Sachin always remain so same like my team is India.

[donkey]

So next time if he is wearing "non believers straight to hell" (shehzad smiley) are British indians still obliged to support him?

[TheWall]

Dirty gutter pakistani blood will never change.

[Malcolm Merlyn]

Typical. Shows hatred some of you Indian's have towards Pakistanis/Muslims. Moron.

Dont mix Pakistani and Muslim.

[Raghav_12]

There is no conflict in two of his actions. Gaza attacks have been seen as humanitarian crisis by many and his support to them doesn't amount to anything against England. On the other hand issue of British Indians supporting India is raised by many British players. But raising issue of British Indians support to Indians is stupid one. In sport you are supposed to support whom you like. Nobody can tell you whom to support. Support in sport should not be linked with patriotism. KT supported England in this ODI series but there is no doubt about his patriotism or we should think if he is against India.

[mancalledsting]

This guy is the ultimate hypocrite like most Pakistanis. Reminds me of that blonde one in SA and the other douche in the Australian team, creating ruckus and controversies fresh off their free citizenship high. Why save Palestine campaign Moeen when there were thousands of other issues going on at that moment all over the world? Why not 'Save Ukraine' campaign? I'll tell u why.. you do not give a hoot about any other "cause" unrelated to Islam. That makes you a hypocrite. British Indians can support whomever they like at least they're contributing positively to the British society unlike your welfare driven grooming brethren.

Enough of this bigoted propaganda. It's really cheap to demonise a whole community on the basis of a select minority. And here's the proof: are you willing to glorify this same community on the basis of the minority spoken about in this article? http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2738067/Dr-Khan-likely-Asian-surname-common-doctors-Patel-second.html After all, who contributes more to any community than NHS doctors?

[Sooda]

Another article on the issue, which I think addresses it quite well. Moeen was responding because he was asked a question about being specifically targeted- just as Bopara is - for being of Asian origin. http://www.espncricinfo.com/england-v-india-2014/content/story/778123.html After Moeen Ali gently chided those booing him and put the loyalties of British-born Indians under scrutiny - and with similar disappointments perhaps set to arise with British-born Pakistanis when Pakistan next tour - it is time again to consider the issues of identity and integration in modern, multicultural Britain, and look at how they arise in the arena of cricket. Alongside Enoch Powell's "Rivers of Blood" speech, Norman Tebbit's infamous "cricket test" is perhaps the most memorable political utterance about race relations in Britain. Controversially proposed by the former Conservative cabinet minister Tebbit nearly 25 years ago as a measure of immigrant assimilation, it was seen by its creator as uncovering the true identity of migrant populations through the medium of cricket. Targeting the large South Asian and West Indian population who had settled in Britain during the '50s and '60s, whilst emphasising the conduct of the former, Tebbit remarked: "Which side do they cheer for? It's an interesting test. Are you still harking back to where you came from or where you are?" The manner of his comments, which taken in context seemed to hit out at a perceived disloyalty common among the British Asian community, was widely criticised by his opponents, some of whom went so far as to claim he ought to be prosecuted for inciting religious hatred. Despite this, the founder of what became known as the Tebbit Test stood by his comments, reigniting the controversy in the aftermath of the 7/7 bombings in London, by claiming a starker appraisal of assimilation in Britain based on his method could have prevented the terrorist attack on the capital. Such expansive claims aside, the debate around the test remains salient, particularly in the contexts of the India tour of England. That India receive significant and vocal backing when playing in England is undeniable. And it is clear, having been to games, that the swathes of Indian fans are not comprised entirely of devoted fans from India, or even just first-generation migrants, but include plenty of individuals born and raised here in Britain. To the bemusement of those who sympathise with Tebbit, in the wake of the recent fracas between Jimmy Anderson and Ravi Jadeja, the counter-attacking batting of Jadeja (who was admittedly booed by the crowd on his way to the wicket) at Lord's was greeted with raucous chants in his favour. This was not the first time that a Lord's crowd lived up to Tebbit's prescriptions by any means. England's hosting of the ICC World Twenty20 in 2009 saw their side booed heavily by Indian fans before their team were eliminated by the hosts. Such a reception at their traditional home (and indeed the home of cricket in general) caused a stir in the England ranks, with the captain at the time, Paul Collingwood, saying the hostile reaction was "strange" and "hurt a few people" and that it ultimately acted as a motivational boost for his side. And as a young, second-generation British Indian, who was once a keen cricketer and remains a massive fan of the sport, I feel this second case hits upon a trend that is a greater cause for concern: there seems to be a portion of the British Asian population that not only does not cheer for the English team, but rejoices in abusing and ridiculing them. Some of it is for comic effect, for sure, but only some. This trend becomes all the more alarming when you consider some of the players in the firing line. Nasser Hussain, a Chennai-born former England captain was commonly a pantomime villain for supporters of India, and has come out in the past to express his confusion as to why second- and third-generation fans do not get behind his team. Hussain's confusion is perhaps easier to understand when you consider some other prominent names to represent the England team in my time: Mark Ramprakash, Vikram Solanki, Owais Shah, Monty Panesar, Sajid Mahmood, Samit Patel, Ravi Bopara, and now Moeen Ali. Plenty of young British Asians have taken the chance to represent England, and have done so with distinction. Consider the penultimate name on that list. Bopara, whose family originates from the Sikh province of Punjab in India, comes across as the most quintessential of young Asian Brits. A London boy, whose cricket developed in line with the twin inspirations of the Indian legend Sachin Tendulkar and the aforementioned Hussain, Bopara owns two popular chicken takeaway shops in the capital. Yet though he is so similar to many of the young British Asians who love cricket, he has come in line for protracted abuse from some Indian fans. He is branded a "gaddar" or traitor (which is sometimes chanted at him by partisan crowds), howled at when batting, and consistently criticised and mocked by a portion of the Indian support. Why? Simply because he plays for England. It is this aspect of local support for India that seems most paradoxical in nature. Rather than celebrating the achievements of a talent from their own community who has made it it big on the international stage, a portion of fans choose instead to denigrate him, though they, in fact, have much more in common with him than they do with their Indian heroes. Could it be that such fans are suffering from a form of identity crisis? Drawing generalisations is, of course, always a dangerous game. The continued support for the Indian team from embedded migrant populations need not entail a rejection of their identifying strongly as British. In fact, recent statistics seem to suggest that the Asian community in Britain does identify as such. Support of the Indian cricket team might then simply be a way of connecting with one's culture, sharing something with parents and grandparents, or celebrating one's roots in a positive and joyous manner. Tebbit's test makes the mistake of construing identity in too rigid and simplistic a way. Each of us has numerous identities, drawn up on differing lines. To claim that the support of a team in one sporting arena by those descended from migrants in Britain gives us a definitive insight into their psyche seems rather hasty. However, there remains a salience to his warning. While the continued support of some British Asians for the Indian team is perfectly capable of being a positive thing, the continuing sense of hostility towards the English team and, most worryingly, towards some of the British Asians who represent them, is harder to explain away. The issue at hand is no longer "Which side do they cheer for?" but "Who do they abuse?" And when it is seen by some to be the action of a gaddar to represent England, it would seem that cricket might still have something interesting and ultimately concerning to tell us about identity in modern Britain. If those supporting India do genuinely feel hostility towards England, and to British Asians representing their country of birth then it does not seem sensationalist to claim that this points towards a crisis of identity, and a trend that is damaging to the project of meaningful multiculturalism. Of course there remains a further explanation for some. Could it be that continued impassioned support for the Indian team, often accompanied by stick for England, is, in fact, a reaction to perceived prejudice? As a young Asian Brit I have never felt such an impulse. However, if it is the case that young, integrated British Asians have full intentions of supporting England but spring back to the team of their roots due to perceived discrimination or racism, this must be taken seriously. If it is racism that turns these fans away from joining the Barmy Army and instead drive them towards the Bharat Army, it must be tackled strongly. But with young Asian Brits like Moeen Ali coming through the system and taking such pride in representing the team of their birth, a disconnect of this kind appears hard to explain. If Moeen has felt that prejudice, he has conquered it. Why fans with much in common with him would feel so differently remains a conundrum. We need to understand why it is these individuals feel this way, debate it and then seek a remedy. However, whether this is genuinely felt, or a case of football hooliganism invading cricket and manifesting in an unrepresentative minority is hard to tell. Don't write off the power of cricket to instigate an important and meaningful debate about immigration and identity. Even if Tebbit's cricket test has not been remembered favourably throughout history, we're still talking about it. Most crucially, we are still feeling the need to reflect on the issues it sought to address. Issues that, regardless of our view on the matter, should not be deemed too controversial to think about in modern, multicultural Britain, for it is in understanding them in their fullest that we can preserve that Britain most effectively.

[G_B_]

I think Indian fans should be free to support who they want. But i dont understand this booing of other peoples players. Moeen Ali was asked a question. He responded that he wanted to see British Asians support England.

[Sooda]

But raising issue of British Indians support to Indians is stupid one. In sport you are supposed to support whom you like. Nobody can tell you whom to support. Support in sport should not be linked with patriotism. KT supported England in this ODI series but there is no doubt about his patriotism or we should think if he is against India.

I agree in part, but its also fair for English players to expect english people to support them.

[Sooda]

All we need now is an on pitch ruckus between Bopara and Ali on the pitch.

On the way to India in March, I bumped into the England world Cup T20 squad in Dubai airport, met and spoke to Moeen and he was great. Interestingly him Chris Jordan and Bopara were hanging out together shopping- talk about racial segregation :P - I Also took selfies with him and Bopara, both graciously agreed. Ravi is a alot more used to the adulation so was lmuch ess chatty