Number Posted November 27, 2014 Posted November 27, 2014 Another d!ck measuring contest? Not surprising coming from someone who said that Philip Hughes was a kaanspiracy to distract Indians from the Australian tour. :facepalm: Our development oriented nation has its fair share of such high class horsesh!t - Dronacharya was India's 1st T best tube baby, Ganesh head was due to plastic surgery, Stem cells in the Ramayana, Nuclear Weapons in the Mahabharata etc etc. So prod! Tone down, you coming across as someone highly frustrated and obsessed with this dick measuring. Yes, I wrote that, it was deleted, I understood I crossed the line, and never complaint. I look back at it now, I feel even more remorseful for thinking like that. But it amazes me a regular lecturer on logic like you is bringing that in discussions to which it is totally irrelevant just to satisfy point scoring need. On the topic, yes, I don't want Indian edu system to be like that. But you are comparing a physics text book with a supplementary book which is for glorification of Indian mythology. FYI Another official said a physics book for teenagers would include Koranic verses regarding the creation of universe and ecosystem. http://uk.reuters.com/article/2014/10/30/uk-pakistan-education-idUKKBN0IJ1G620141030 So when physics text book start including anything of that sort I will criticise that too.(Wait, now Raghav will come and say his RSS school physics had vedas and shloks :D)
seedhi Posted November 27, 2014 Posted November 27, 2014 You can write in normal letters - I could read, you know :) In order to convert, in some states it requires prior permission of the District Magistrate. Now, of course the natural argument is to say it is to prevent conversions (and unlike what some would say is not necessarily restricted to any particular religion). However, what is often conveniently overlooked is that religion is my personal business and the state has no right to grant permission and should neither require an information. In case the state is concerned about fraudulent conversions, it is their prerogative to come up with a method that doesn't violate civil liberties. So yes, the apostasy laws in India are not full retard but there is an existence of an apostasy law in some form nonetheless. You and I shouldn't require "prior permission" from anyone to convert to a religion (sex, caste, creed etc.) of our choice.Applying western standards on Indian society does not work. Remember this is a country where taking and giving dowry is illegal. In an ideal society (with full civil liberties) it is no business of the state whether dowry is taken or given. Similarly, in India abortion, sex determination, and even sex selective conception (which are private affairs) are strictly regulated, if not illegal. And in any case, our religion is (unfortunately) the business of the government because we are governed by different civil laws based on our religion (so much for secularism).
seedhi Posted November 27, 2014 Posted November 27, 2014 I can post a law of at least one state where the law itself states that it is prior permission from DM and not prior information. I really liked the discussion with you, much much more mature. :)Please post the law which requires the person undergoing the conversion himself or herself to obtain prior permission of the DM.
Crookbond Posted November 28, 2014 Posted November 28, 2014 Tone down, you coming across as someone highly frustrated and obsessed with this dick measuring. Yes, I wrote that, it was deleted, I understood I crossed the line, and never complaint. I look back at it now, I feel even more remorseful for thinking like that. But it amazes me a regular lecturer on logic like you is bringing that in discussions to which it is totally irrelevant just to satisfy point scoring need. Agreed it was irrelevant and there was no need to bring it up. Sorry for making you feel even more remorseful than you are. However, the physics textbook of Pakistan is irrelevant too, right? On the topic, yes, I don't want Indian edu system to be like that. But you are comparing a physics text book with a supplementary book which is for glorification of Indian mythology. I wasn't talking about supplementary text books. Here are some excerpts from Class V science textbooks in Karnataka which talks about test tube babies in ancient India. :facepalm: I could post more examples of other states but here's my point - when people in power endorse cross species organ transplant during Vedic eras and stem cells in Ramayanas soon you'd see similar texts coming from our "glorious past". Just browse recent news and it is already happening - we can create a separate thread and discuss on this.
achilles Posted November 29, 2014 Posted November 29, 2014 Now if I say something, some idiot Moderator will ban me for my honesty. So let me take this opportunity to applaud this fantastic decision.
game_changerr Posted November 29, 2014 Posted November 29, 2014 how pak is joke,,,i havnt seen (read)any politician downgrading army there and got away with it aka azamm khan
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