dial_100 Posted December 5, 2007 Share Posted December 5, 2007 ICFers, I was noticing that Jaffer while playing his shots was trying to convey some message that he is ready for ODIs. I like this boy. He is patient, can rotate the strike. Has some stunning stots in his bag. He has good pull/hook shots. He needs to learn few shots that one needs to play in ODIs but IMO, we do not have 3 players ready to replace SRT, RD, SG. We did replace VS with Uthappa/RS. But RS is definitely one of the upcoming tallent. But why not give Jaffy a chance in ODIs too. So here are the probable 4-6 batsmen that I want to see in ODI in next 2-3 years.. Uthhu RS DK Jaffy Raina and Off course, we have Dhoni Yuv But my point here is not others but Jaffy... I would like to know from you all Why not Jaffy?? We had RD/SG as anchors who would pace their innings slowly at the beginning and then go at a good R/B pace towards the end. With RS, Dhoni, Yuv and Utthapa in the side, I dont think we need to worry abotu RR. So Jaffy could be a good asset in ODIs too.. Stick to ODI in this discussion.... Link to comment
apocalypse Posted December 5, 2007 Share Posted December 5, 2007 Somehow I feel that Jaffer bats well when not under any pressure for the total. In ODI you always have some kind of pressure on you to rotate the strike. He is currently fit for his test role but I am not so sure about him trying for ODI Link to comment
DesiChap Posted December 5, 2007 Share Posted December 5, 2007 Nope Let Jaffar stay for Tests. They are plenty in waiting Rohit S, M Tiwari, Y Pathan Link to comment
Online Posted December 5, 2007 Share Posted December 5, 2007 Somehow I feel that Jaffer bats well when not under any pressure for the total. In ODI you always have some kind of pressure on you to rotate the strike. He is currently fit for his test role but I am not so sure about him trying for ODI good point - we already have enough batsmen waiting Link to comment
dial_100 Posted December 5, 2007 Author Share Posted December 5, 2007 Why not..> Even RD was said to be test specialist and he played some stunning ODI innings for us.... RD was not SRT, Yuv or Dhoni but was a technically perfect batsman who saved us in many games on tuff pitches....Why cant the same thing be assumed for Jaffy as well... Link to comment
fineleg Posted December 5, 2007 Share Posted December 5, 2007 Jaffer played a few ODIs - it was DISASTER for him. Lets leave Jaffer alone. He is one good Test opener for us. Lets not go screw it up. We need an excellent Test opener, Jaffer is not yet excellent but good - let him work on the Test role to improve further. Link to comment
dial_100 Posted December 5, 2007 Author Share Posted December 5, 2007 One the same line, are we saying that Yuv will not play test ever????... Wrong....Based on his form he will get in the test side no matter whether his style of game suits the test cricket or not he will score good amount of runs in Test too... Same way I feel Jaffar will be good 35-40 avg guy in ODI at 70+ SR... which is not bad at all... Link to comment
Ram Posted December 5, 2007 Share Posted December 5, 2007 Jaffer is definitely not a one-day player. For starters, he is not a power player but more of a touch player. One day cricket has recently shown us time and time again that it is the power players that make most of the impact. Secondly, Jaffer's game needs an attacking field to flourish and most of his shots are along the ground. In ODIs, there are often situations where you have to go over the top and Jaffer doesnt have that game. There is no need for technically brilliant players in ODIs, we need players who suit the bill better. Link to comment
bharat297 Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 ^ I disagree with your statement that there is no need for the technically brilliant players in one-day cricket but I dont think Jaffer is a one-day player. If you look at the top one-day players now like Hayden, Tendulkar, Ponting, Bell, Hussey, Clarke ... they all have fairly good techniques. Yes there are power players like Symonds, and Pietersen and Yuvraj, and they are important too. It is stupid to believe that just because someone has a good technique they cant play ODIs. I'll never forget this innings that Damien Martyn played in Brisbane in 2001/02 against South Africa where he scored 104 off 121 hitting only 5 boundaries. It ultimately comes down to how well they rotate the strike and their placement. If a batsman has a strong technique then their placement is usually good, however there are some exceptions. People like Michael Vaughan have struggled with that in the past. Link to comment
Ram Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 ^ What i actually meant was, solid technique is not a pre-requisite for one-day selection. Of course, the importance of technique can never be under-estimated But reiterate what i have stated before, the one day game is now more of a power game and is getting more suited to hitters rather than technically brilliant players. To put it simply, for you to be a successful one day player you must have the ability of go over the top or hit the ball hard. Link to comment
fineleg Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 MM, There are always both kinds - example, Jayawoddinna (like how michael holding would say it). Mahela Jayawardene can work his silken hands, timing and placement and can score quickly in shorter format as well. Good beautiful cricketing shots. PS: My take on Jaffer remains - just keep him for Tests, do not distract him. Link to comment
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