G_B_ Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 not gone too well with the m777 trials. Was hoping things would go well and we would order 500 more guns to provide a counter to the chinese light tank in a mountainous environment. Whats the update on Dhanush? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeyboardWarrior Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 (edited) Pak Navy successfully fires anti-ship missile from helicopter Quote KARACHI: The Pakistan Navyon Saturday successfully test-fired an anti-ship missile from a helicopter in the northern Arabian Sea, a navyspokesperson said. The anti-ship missile fired from the Sea King helicopter into the open sea successfully hit its target, Dawn newspaper quoted the spokesperson as saying. Chief of the Naval Staff Admiral Muhammad Zakaullah witnessed the missile firing demonstration. Earlier in March, the navy had conducted a successful test of a land-based, anti-ship missile. The trial was conducted from the coastal region and the missile secured a hit on a target placed at sea, the report said. The Pakistan Navy in May received the seven Westland Sea King multi-role helicopters it had ordered from the United Kingdom UK in 2016, it said. http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/pakistan/pak-navy-successfully-fires-anti-ship-missile-from-helicopter/articleshow/60807396.cms http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/pak-navy-successfully-fires-anti-ship-missile-from-helicopter/1/1054450.html https://www.outlookindia.com/newsscroll/pak-navy-successfully-fires-antiship-missile-from-helicopter/1152856 https://www.thenews.com.pk/latest/206800-Pakistan-Navy-receives-Sea-King-helicopters Edited September 23, 2017 by KeyboardWarrior Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeyboardWarrior Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 (edited) Pakistan Army contingent lands in Russia for joint exercise Quote Russian-Pakistani tactical exercise "Friendship-2017" will be held in the mountains of Karachay-Cherkessia from 22 September to 4 October, reports TASS the press service of the southern district.Servicemen of the southern military district completed the preparation for participation in joint Russian-Pakistani tactical exercise "Friendship-2017" which will be held from 22 September to 4 October in the mountain-woody area on the territory of Karachay-Cherkess Republic in the area of the village of Nizhny Arkhyz. http://weaponews.com/news/15126-in-the-south-of-russia-will-host-the-russian-pakistani-doctrine.html http://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/4577103 http://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/4577103 https://timesofislamabad.com/pakistan-army-contigent-lands-in-russia-as-moscow-rejects-indian-reservations-over-joint-military-games/2017/09/23/ http://newsmilitary.com/pages/102244175-pakistan-and-russia-will-conduct-2nd-military-exercise Edited September 23, 2017 by KeyboardWarrior Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeyboardWarrior Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 (edited) Edited September 26, 2017 by KeyboardWarrior Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vilander Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 On 12/09/2017 at 11:06 AM, KeyboardWarrior said: maybe JV with china for J-31, or Turkish TFX, or maybe something new. dont know yet. but PAF is surely looking ahead for the next 5th Gen aircraft after the the completion of the JF-17 project. theres a news that chinese and turks are looking for JV partner in 5th Gen project. China is intrested in J-31 project for PLAN. Hehe lol where will the beggars get loan from for your 5 gen fighters haha..you will only get junk fighter 17 target practice from LCAs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeyboardWarrior Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 (edited) 12 hours ago, Vilander said: Hehe lol where will the beggars get loan from for your 5 gen fighters haha..you will only get junk fighter 17 target practice from LCAs. excuse me, beggar who ? Ignorant post. The same way we will gt 8 Subs for 5 billion dollars. and the same way we will gt 12, Mi-35s from russia. Its a long term project. we will allocate the budget for R&D and all for 5th Gen fighter etc. Edited September 26, 2017 by KeyboardWarrior Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeyboardWarrior Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 Pakistan Army receives new six Cessna aircraft from US Quote The Pakistan Army on Friday received six new Cessna aircraft, two Cessna 208 Caravan and four Cessna T-206H from the United States, said a statement released by the US Office of Defense Representative. In April 2016, the US Department of Defence had announced it had issued a $14.9 million, fixed-price contract to Cessna Aircraft Company for making two Cessna 208B Grand Caravan EX aircraft and four Cessna T-206H Stationair aircraft for Pakistan. The contract included sustainment support and associated training. The aircraft will be configured for medical evacuation. The statement from the Office of Defense Representative added that the Caravan and the Stationair aircraft will strengthen Pakistan Army's air mobility by enhancing its capability to conduct medical evacuations as well as provide limited troop and equipment transport. The Pakistan Army Aviation Corps in the statement thanked America for the "generous contribution". "American security assistance continues to build the counter-terrorism capabilities of Pakistan's security forces." "The US and Pakistan are stronger when we work together to combat terrorism," the statement added. Each aircraft comes with a 24-month sustainment package, including spares, tooling, and support equipment. The Grand Caravan EX, first shown at the Paris Airshow in 2015, is equipped with a surveillance console, medical stretcher, lightweight seats and stowable utility seat. It accommodates up to 14 people and a load of 1,593kg. The T206H Stationair is a smaller aircraft for six people and can take a load of 581kg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vilander Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, KeyboardWarrior said: excuse me, beggar who ? Ignorant post. The same way we will gt 8 Subs for 5 billion dollars. and the same way we will gt 12, Mi-35s from russia. Its a long term project. we will allocate the budget for R&D and all for 5th Gen fighter etc. lol hehe... long term loan from beijing, for 5 bil for the diesel subs. mi 35 hehe its a hele... budget for 5th gen ..already ur defence budget is 6% ?( the real budget not the madeup one for international audience) of gdp this year, lol it will then become 30%. How will you fill the 10% shortfall from US aid, more soft loans from China. imagine 9 bill budget, or even 10 bil( original figure is 8.8 bil). 6 bil goes to personnel, out of 4 bil, 1 for missile program, 600 mil for navy modernization, then you have jf17, aewc for paf, alkhalid for PA. where will you bring the 3 bil for fifth gen ? more long term loan from china or junkfighter 18 ? What will your people do ? what will they eat maan.. Edited September 26, 2017 by Vilander Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeyboardWarrior Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 (edited) 37 minutes ago, Vilander said: lol hehe... long term loan from beijing, for 5 bil for the diesel subs. mi 35 hehe its a hele... budget for 5th gen ..already ur defence budget is 6% ?( the real budget not the madeup one for international audience) of gdp this year, lol it will then become 30%. How will you fill the 10% shortfall from US aid, more soft loans from China. imagine 9 bill budget, or even 10 bil( original figure is 8.8 bil). 6 bil goes to personnel, out of 4 bil, 1 for missile program, 600 mil for navy modernization, then you have jf17, aewc for paf, alkhalid for PA. where will you bring the 3 bil for fifth gen ? more long term loan from china or junkfighter 18 ? What will your people do ? what will they eat maan.. first of all budy, why do you care about our secret or official defence budget ? secondly, can someone buy Helis from pakoras ? NO , you also need Money/dollars for it. as you know , military acquisitions are not some vegetables/fruits that you can go outside and buy from market. once the deal gt done thn every stuff cmes in batches each year or according to the deal. and many things are already arrived, i didnt mention on this thread becoz its not officially announced from ISPR/Govt/Army yet. In pakistan, our military acquisition process is much faster and simpler thn yours. we dont take a decade plus to choose an aircraft (hell, even PAF will make 5th Gen aircraft in a decade) , and we dont take 30+ years to make some light aircraft, becoz we dont rely on babus in the govt. thirdly and lastly, will you plz give me the source of the figures of our secret budget in the bold ? Edited September 26, 2017 by KeyboardWarrior Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vilander Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 31 minutes ago, KeyboardWarrior said: first of all budy, why do you care about our secret or official defence budget ? secondly, can someone buy Helis from pakoras ? NO , you also need Money/dollars for it. as you know , military acquisitions are not some vegetables/fruits that you can go outside and buy from market. once the deal gt done thn every stuff cmes in batches each year or according to the deal. and many things are already arrived, i didnt mention on this thread becoz its not officially announced from ISPR/Govt/Army yet. In pakistan, our military acquisition process is much faster and simpler thn yours. we dont take a decade plus to choose an aircraft (hell, even PAF will make 5th Gen aircraft in a decade) , and we dont take 30+ years to make some light aircraft, becoz we dont rely on babus in the govt. thirdly and lastly, will you plz give me the source of the figures of our secret budget in the bold ? its in public domain dude, also your soft loans from china, you will be in a debt spiral along with your cpec debt spiral. haha, some one is angry. Tejas is 4.5 gen from scratch and in ~20 years dev time you can call it what ever you want but thats what it takes to get a platform created, unlike a 3.5 full metal frame with dated tec that china made for you from reverse engineered f-7 . In India there i a habit, where someone lays a foundation stone and then the budget gets allocated for it 10 years later, does not mean foundation stone was development towards tejas lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vilander Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 Jihadi misinformation bust 1: 1987 oct is budget allocaton/project definition for LCA. Apr 2007 is limited series production first flight. thats 19 years, par for course in 4th gen aircraft development timeline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vilander Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 what pak will be forced by reality is the below: forget about more land grabbing, try keeping what you have intact. there is a glass ceiling for middling nations in terms of technology availability in defence and there is also no great need for such nations, meaning pak would have to deescalate or be china's province eventually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeyboardWarrior Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 2 hours ago, Vilander said: its in public domain dude, also your soft loans from china, you will be in a debt spiral along with your cpec debt spiral. haha, some one is angry. Tejas is 4.5 gen from scratch and in ~20 years dev time you can call it what ever you want but thats what it takes to get a platform created, unlike a 3.5 full metal frame with dated tec that china made for you from reverse engineered f-7 . In India there i a habit, where someone lays a foundation stone and then the budget gets allocated for it 10 years later, does not mean foundation stone was development towards tejas lol. first you said in previous post that its a real budget and its not in public, now you said its in public domain ? good for you that your enemy will be in debt spiral. are you sure that tejas was build 4.5th Gen from scratch ? and why should we angry on tejas ? tejas doesnt have a single full strength squardon yet. btw, i am still waiting for the source of the secret budget of pakistan army you have. 2 hours ago, Vilander said: Jihadi misinformation bust 1: 1987 oct is budget allocaton/project definition for LCA. Apr 2007 is limited series production first flight. thats 19 years, par for course in 4th gen aircraft development timeline. wrong it was madarassa misinformation that you have busted. ddnt know that many indian defence experts gt education in madarasas. India Took a Shocking 33 Years to Develop a Jet Fighter (And It’s Still Not Ready for Combat) http://nationalinterest.org/blog/the-buzz/india-took-shocking-33-years-develop-jet-fighter-its-still-18505 maybe i was wrong about 30+ years, maybe it was 20 years, but everyone cant be wrong. i can post more articles if you want. but anyways. 2 hours ago, Vilander said: what pak will be forced by reality is the below: forget about more land grabbing, try keeping what you have intact. there is a glass ceiling for middling nations in terms of technology availability in defence and there is also no great need for such nations, meaning pak would have to deescalate or be china's province eventually. dont know what are you blabering about, why shouldnt we do R&D for our own projects ? do we need to gt the permission of India for that ? cant understand the reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vilander Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 (edited) 4 hours ago, KeyboardWarrior said: first you said in previous post that its a real budget and its not in public, now you said its in public domain ? good for you that your enemy will be in debt spiral. are you sure that tejas was build 4.5th Gen from scratch ? and why should we angry on tejas ? tejas doesnt have a single full strength squardon yet. btw, i am still waiting for the source of the secret budget of pakistan army you have. wrong it was madarassa misinformation that you have busted. ddnt know that many indian defence experts gt education in madarasas. India Took a Shocking 33 Years to Develop a Jet Fighter (And It’s Still Not Ready for Combat) http://nationalinterest.org/blog/the-buzz/india-took-shocking-33-years-develop-jet-fighter-its-still-18505 maybe i was wrong about 30+ years, maybe it was 20 years, but everyone cant be wrong. i can post more articles if you want. but anyways. dont know what are you blabering about, why shouldnt we do R&D for our own projects ? do we need to gt the permission of India for that ? cant understand the reasons. How cute, It is 19 years from proj definition to first limited series productiin flight. Does not matter what paid lobby writes they have their agendas to sell fighters to IA. But even a 40 year cycle means nothing right abt now India has a platform and has money to buy few other platforms. Pak hardly has budget to produce jf17s 5th gen for pak is a pipe dream. For india it will be reality with amca. Edited September 27, 2017 by Vilander Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeyboardWarrior Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 14 hours ago, Vilander said: How cute, It is 19 years from proj definition to first limited series productiin flight. Does not matter what paid lobby writes they have their agendas to sell fighters to IA. But even a 40 year cycle means nothing right abt now India has a platform and has money to buy few other platforms. Pak hardly has budget to produce jf17s 5th gen for pak is a pipe dream. For india it will be reality with amca. only future will tell us .... :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vilander Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 2 hours ago, KeyboardWarrior said: only future will tell us .... :) Dude future is India smashing you. No other future possible ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeyboardWarrior Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 41 minutes ago, Vilander said: Dude future is India smashing you. No other future possible ;) ponka .... :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeyboardWarrior Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 (edited) Pak-China joint air exercise ‘Shaheen-VI’ concludes Quote ISLAMABAD: The joint international air exercise “Shaheen-VI” conducted between Pakistan Air Force (PAF) and People’s Liberation Army Air Force (PLAAF) culminated at Korla Air Base, China. Air Vice Marshal Haseeb Paracha, Air Officer Commanding, Southern Air Command was the chief guest at the closing ceremony. Lt Gen Zhan Shunhou, Air Commander of Western Theater Command, PLAAF was also present at the occasion. A PAF delegation also witnessed the exercise on the last day and participated in the closing ceremony along with high ranking Chinese officials. In the three weeks duration Air Exercise, PAF and PLAAF contingents participated with modern fighter Jets and support elements. PAF Pilots, aslo flies in J-11s and Su-30s of the PLAAF. https://www.thenews.com.pk/latest/232959-Pak-China-joint-air-exercise-Shaheen-VI-concludes Edited October 8, 2017 by KeyboardWarrior Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeyboardWarrior Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 Pakistan's KSEW signs contract with Dutch Damen for local construction of OPV Quote Pakistan's Karachi Shipyard & Engineering Works Limited (KSEW) has signed a contract with Dutch shipbuilder Damen Shipyards for the local construction of a multipurpose offshore patrol vessel (OPV) for the Pakistan Navy. Pakistan further said the vessel is suited for anti surface, anti air operations, maritime security operations (MSO), day & night helicopter operations, combat search and rescue (CSAR) and surveillance and intelligence gathering. http://www.janes.com/article/71373/pakistan-s-ksew-signs-contract-with-dutch-damen-for-local-construction-of-opv http://navaltoday.com/2017/06/13/pakistan-orders-offshore-patrol-vessel-from-damen/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeyboardWarrior Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 (edited) Pakistan Purchased the KOSAVA - I Precision-Guided Missile from Serbia https://twitter.com/Dromercay/status/924235628954386434 Developed by Serbia, the 50km-range TV / DataLink guided land-to-land Kosava-1 faction has been sold to Pakistan. Quote The Kosava-1 is a Serbian long-range multipurpose missile system based on the improved version of Oganj rocket. The Kosava-1 missile system was developed primarily for missions against tanks, armored vehicles, fortifications, command posts, low-flying helicopters, coastal ships, industrial facilities and bridges at the 50 km distance. The launcher with Kosava missiles can be mounted on a 6×6 light armoured vehicle that carried four missile canisters arranged that can be elevated and turned away from the unprotected cab. KOSAVA (Whirlwind) TRUCK MOUNTED LAUNCHER OF ROCKET - ASSISTED AERIAL BOMBS Kosava (Whirlwind) truck mounted launcher of rocket assisted aerial bombs is advanced artillery system for long range target engagements of unique concept and applied design solutions, providing artillery units with great punch capability.Main system features: -simple and reliable design, -low-cost of development and production, -high battlefield survivability (due to high mobility and rapid into and out of action transition time), -capability for sudden, concentrated, accurate and powerful engagement of wide range of battlefield targets, -high firepower (owing to multiple launch capability, high warhead effectiveness, relatively high rate of fire, and possibility of using --broad range of modified standard and guided aerial bombs) -warhead weight/ range ratio is optimized to suit typical categories of battlefield targets and combat scenarios. Kosava can engage following target types: -concentrations of enemy manpower and combat materiel -AD and artillery systems positions -Highly reinforced zones of resistance, particularly in anti-terrorist and anti-guerilla operations -C3 (command, control and communication) nodes -Logistic and storage facilities -Vital military, industrial and infrastructure facilities Edited October 30, 2017 by KeyboardWarrior Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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