seedhi Posted September 8, 2013 Share Posted September 8, 2013 No it's not. Modi knows he can never become the PM unless he sweeps UP and Bihar with a collective tally of around 60. The criminal' date=' Shah, was sent to UP for the purpose of instigating riots and polarizing the electorate on the 2002 "model". Going by all evidence during my visit there and talking to people, he is very successfully doing so. S=G will correct me if I am wrong as he stays there.[/quote']UP has seen a string of riots right from the day SP came to power last year. How can Modi and Amit Shah be blamed for the law and order situation in UP which has been bad for quite some time now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Outsider Posted September 8, 2013 Share Posted September 8, 2013 How is the blame not on samajwadi party? They have the most to win from polarization of votes. They also seem to have given a free hand to one section of the society by sending a strong message to the admin that action against the "vote bank community"will not be tolerated. The blame for what happens in Modi's state rightly lies with Modi...so how does the blame for what happens in Yadav's state not lie with Yadav? UP has seen a string of riots right from the day SP came to power last year. How can Modi and Amit Shah be blamed for the law and order situation in UP which has been bad for quite some time now? If you don't accept anecdotal evidence, look at the intelligence reports about the mass scale polarization in progress in UP - yeah taali ek haath se nahin bajti hai and SP is also responsible, but the driving force is Modi and Shah. The failed VHP yatra was another attempt to have large scale communal riots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gattaca Posted September 8, 2013 Share Posted September 8, 2013 How is the blame not on samajwadi party? They have the most to win from polarization of votes. They also seem to have given a free hand to one section of the society by sending a strong message to the admin that action against the "vote bank community"will not be tolerated. The blame for what happens in Modi's state rightly lies with Modi...so how does the blame for what happens in Yadav's state not lie with Yadav? How dare you to ask to that modi is responsible ? Every communal problem in india is bcoz of modi with out proof. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number Posted September 8, 2013 Author Share Posted September 8, 2013 There have been more than 30 riots in UP since Akhilesh came in and they have largely gone unreported. I doubt this news would have been reported if this jorno hasn't died, all this has been going on for 1 week in Mujjafarnagar and there wasn't a single news reporting this. SP is a goon party, Mulayam has iftaar dinner with a Moulavi, very next day the Moulavi gives a hate speech and mob destroys public property. Madness from top to bottom. I really feel bad for good and educated people of UP. They have no choice either. The state has gone to dogs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sachin=GOD Posted September 8, 2013 Share Posted September 8, 2013 The law & order situation in UP (especially w.r.t. communal sentiments) has been getting bad since the day SP came to power in 2012 BUT the situation has become far, far worse since Modi's elevation and Shah's Ram Mandir comments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beetle Posted September 8, 2013 Share Posted September 8, 2013 Major incidents of communal violence in UP in 2013Date Location January 4 Dhammaur village of Sultanpur district — 12 injured January 25 Sibbiganj village in Bareilly district — 7 injured January 28 Chandausi area in Sambhal district — 3 injured March 3 Aliganj town of Ambedkar Nagar district — Hindu Yuva Vahini leader Rambabu Gupta shot dead March 4 Nakkash area in Sambhal district — 1 killed March 5 Nagina town of Bijnore district — 17 injured March 7 Rupaidiha area of Bahraich — 5 injured in clash following desecration of religious place March 12 Nidhauli Kala of Etah — 4 injured, 6 vehicles set afire March 26 Kairana town of Shamli — 5 injured July 27 Nagla Mal village in Meerut — 2 killed, 12 injured July 31 Lucknow — 6 injured August 6 Bhadaurganj area of Rampur district — 7 injured August 9 Amroha district — 17 injured August 9 Rasulpur Dhauri village in Meerut — no casualties August 12 Machlishahar area of Jaunpur — clash between two communities over a dog. The police took the dog into custody to restore peace August 16 Bulandhshahar — 4 injured in fire exchange August 25 Jhansi — no casualties August 27 Khair area of Aligarh district — boycott of one community by another August 27 Kawal in Muzaffarnagar — 3 killed August 28 Chibramua area of Kannauj district — 2 injured September 3 Shamli district — 1 dead, 3 injured http://www.hindustantimes.com/India-news/UttarPradesh/19-killed-as-fresh-clashes-erupt-in-UP-s-Muzaffarnagar-Army-deployed-in-affected-areas/Article1-1118891.aspx Instead of accusing Samajwadi party and their incompetent CM Akhilesh Yadav......trying to put the blame on Modi is pretty stupid to say the least. The CM is incompetent at best and a communal riot monger at worst. He has been unable to control communal clashes for far too long to get away with out the tarnish that is reserved for the other "riot effected CMs". It is high time people and media asked uncomfortable questions from the "seculars".But unfortunately ,asking that from the biased and paid media is a bit too much. At least we can get our heads out of the sand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seedhi Posted September 8, 2013 Share Posted September 8, 2013 Jai ho Modi aur Amit Shah ki - abhi baraah mare hain. By the time the elections are done their target would be closer to baraah sau. Expect more such news from UP over the next year.The toll is 21 according to IBN. The SP has been encouraging this as they will gain the most in a polarization. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beetle Posted September 8, 2013 Share Posted September 8, 2013 If you don't accept anecdotal evidence' date=' look at the intelligence reports about the mass scale polarization in progress in UP - yeah taali ek haath se nahin bajti hai and SP is also responsible, but the driving force is Modi and Shah. The failed VHP yatra was another attempt to have large scale communal riots.[/quote'] The elections are not on for one party ...they are for every party. How can one be blamed for polarization when others benefit too. Besides,whose responsibility is it to keep law and order? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sachin=GOD Posted September 8, 2013 Share Posted September 8, 2013 Instead of accusing Samajwadi party and their incompetent CM Akhilesh Yadav......trying to put the blame on Modi is pretty stupid to say the least. The CM is incompetent at best and a communal riot monger at worst. He has been unable to control communal clashes for far too long to get away with out the tarnish that is reserved for the other "riot effected CMs". It is high time people and media asked uncomfortable questions from the "seculars".But unfortunately ,asking that from the biased and paid media is a bit too much. At least we can get our heads out of the sand. IMO he is naive and inexperienced, not incompetent and a communal riot monger. The fault lies more with Mulayam Singh for making Akhilesh CM before he was ready for such a huge job and then giving him Azam Khan and Shivpal Yadav as Ministers whom he cannot control. Such riots and gundagardi happens everytime SP comes to power but our "impartial" media never asks questions because SP knows that it needs certain vote banks to come to power so it does whatever it takes to appease them. Now the fear of Modi coming to power has made the communal situation worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Outsider Posted September 8, 2013 Share Posted September 8, 2013 Instead of accusing Samajwadi party and their incompetent CM Akhilesh Yadav......trying to put the blame on Modi is pretty stupid to say the least. The CM is incompetent at best and a communal riot monger at worst. He has been unable to control communal clashes for far too long to get away with out the tarnish that is reserved for the other "riot effected CMs". It is high time people and media asked uncomfortable questions from the "seculars".But unfortunately ,asking that from the biased and paid media is a bit too much. At least we can get our heads out of the sand. The elections are not on for one party ...they are for every party. How can one be blamed for polarization when others benefit too. Besides' date='whose responsibility is it to keep law and order?[/quote'] Radhika, it's a known fact that communal incidents have increased ever since SP came to power, so at least I am not absolving them of blame. However, Modi and Shah are not only feeding fuel to the fire, they are starting their own fire as well. And it's pretty funny to see support for Modi when he has presided over the worst riots of modern India in the context of criticizing Akhilesh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gattaca Posted September 8, 2013 Share Posted September 8, 2013 LUCKNOW, India — Hundreds of troops have been deployed to quell deadly riots and clashes between Hindus and Muslims sparked by the killing of three villagers who had objected when a young woman was being harassed in northern India. Police said 19 people were killed, including an Indian broadcast journalist, a police photographer and several people who on Sunday succumbed to injuries received a day earlier when the two groups set upon each other with guns and knives in Kawal village, in the state of Uttar Pradesh. The violence quickly spread to neighboring villages in Muzaffarnagar district Saturday night. “A curfew has been imposed in three riot-hit areas of Muzaffarnagar,” said the head of the state’s home ministry, R.M. Srivastava. “The situation is still very tense, but under control.” Soldiers were going door to door to search for weapons. A state of high alert was declared for the entire state of Uttar Pradesh, which has a population of 200 million people. The clashes broke out Saturday after thousands of Hindu farmers held a meeting in Kawal to demand justice in the Aug. 27 killing of three men who had spoken out when a woman was being verbally harassed. The state’s minority welfare minister, Mohammad Azam Khan, said some at the meeting gave provocative speeches calling for Muslims to be killed. The farmers were attacked as they were returning home after the meeting, senior police official Arun Kumar said. “The attack seemed well planned,” Kumar said. “Some were armed with rifles and sharp-edged weapons.” Gunfire was reported from several areas of the village. Within hours clashes broke out in neighboring villages, Kumar said. A leader from the Hindu nationalist Bharatiya Janata Party said tensions had been simmering since the three men were killed Aug. 27 in a tea shop. “Had the killers been arrested, the situation might not have gone out of hand,” Vijay Bahadur Pathak said. Uttar Pradesh was at the heart of some of India’s worst communal clashes in December 1992, after a Hindu mob razed the 16th-century Babri mosque in Ayodhya. The government has warned that India is seeing a rise in communal violence, with 451 incidents reported already this year, compared with 410 for all of 2012. Tensions were expected to escalate in the run-up to next year’s national elections, Home Minister Sushilkumar Shinde told reporters in New Delhi on Saturday. He said all 28 of India’s states should stay alert and improve their ability to gather intelligence. Communal violence last month left two dead and 22 injured in a village in Bihar state, east of Uttar Pradesh, according to Indian media. Outbreaks have also been reported recently in Uttar Pradesh’s district of Shamli, as well as in the disputed Himalayan territory of Kashmir. Copyright 2013 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed. So outy is modi responsible now ? http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/asia_pacific/troops-deployed-to-quell-deadly-communal-clashes-between-hindus-muslims-in-north-india/2013/09/08/66e33f48-1854-11e3-961c-f22d3aaf19ab_story.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gattaca Posted September 8, 2013 Share Posted September 8, 2013 ^^ Its incompetence of Aklilesh and SP of appeasing for vote bank politics nothing more than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surajmal Posted September 8, 2013 Share Posted September 8, 2013 UP is such a nice place. It is the outsiders who are ruining in. Down with outsiders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number Posted September 8, 2013 Author Share Posted September 8, 2013 Zee news showing Yo Yo Honey Singh. Jai ho. :facepalm: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Outsider Posted September 8, 2013 Share Posted September 8, 2013 The toll is 21 according to IBN. The SP has been encouraging this as they will gain the most in a polarization. SP will gain the most from polarization? WTF are you talking about - BJP's best performance in UP coincides with the maximum polarization of the UP electorate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Outsider Posted September 8, 2013 Share Posted September 8, 2013 ^^ Its incompetence of Aklilesh and SP of appeasing for vote bank politics nothing more than that. Yeah, because the SP did not make the arrests(if I believe the BJP leader quoted in your post) then maar do saare musalmaanon ko. :two_thumbs_up: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Outsider Posted September 8, 2013 Share Posted September 8, 2013 Death toll to 27 now according to Times Now. :(( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surajmal Posted September 8, 2013 Share Posted September 8, 2013 Death toll to 27 now according to Times Now. :(( Don't worry it is mostly the communal people who have been on the receiving end till now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gattaca Posted September 8, 2013 Share Posted September 8, 2013 Yeah' date=' because the SP did not make the arrests(if I believe the BJP leader quoted in your post) then maar do saare musalmaanon ko. :two_thumbs_up:[/quote'] Its not just BJP even your savior diggy is saying the same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Outsider Posted September 8, 2013 Share Posted September 8, 2013 Its not just BJP even your savior diggy is saying the same thing. And where have I said it's just BJP? On this very thread I've said taali ek haath se nahin bajti. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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