NADA at risk of losing affiliation if BCCI stays reluctant for cricketers' dope test, warns WADA

[cricketrulez]

1 hour ago, Khota said:

I have been respectful but you have been pathetic.

 

You are special type of stupid. You dont know anyhing, you google a topic and then come post it. At this point I know a 10 year old brain is trapped in your body.

 

I have followed Bryant from his days at Clemson. Your point 1 is as sorry as it gets.

 

1) NFL never declares what tests someone fails. For you to put down PEDS so authoratatively shows how naive you are. Since he was suspended few times the speculation is that it was a recreational drug but maybe not marijuana. They have some leeway on that as it does not effect performance. No NFL is not a failure about that. They really want to help those kind of people.

 

2) If other countries agree all you can do is protest. They are not out to get you. Throw your tin foil hat out.

 

3) No they should not rollover but at the same time they cannot boycott.

 

4) These are bureaucratic organizations. No one knows what is going on.

 

Quit digging a ditch.

 

Lets recap.

 

1) NFL follows its own policy which are lax and nowhere near as draconian as WADA requires of BCCI. You are happy with that, but you hate BCCI for saying no to WADA.. FTR per WADA  rules there is no exception for recreational drugs. Bryant is beyond help. I have been a steeler fan for quarter of century and drug issue in pittsburgh  has a long history going back to the days of Chuck knoll.

 

NFL wants to help its players? LMAO. by burying CTE reports and influencing CTE research? by callkin its players inmates in a prison? LMAO

 

2) Nope. There is no logic which says that if other countries agree BCCI has to agree. BCCI is well within its rights to choose its own drug testing policy. why WADA threatens rest of indian sport when they don't do the same for other nations like US?

 

3) According to WADA, for BCCI its binary. Either they are compliant of all of WADA clauses or they or not. Bit like being pregnant or not. even you should be able understand that. Yes, BCCI can and have boycotted for 10+ years with no consequence or action from WADA. only idiots have an issue with it.

 

4) nothing to do worth bureaucracy. Every thing to do with leverage.

 

 

 

 

Edited October 29, 2017 by cricketrulez

[Malcolm Merlyn]

but those players play in olympics and world championships which are WADA certified. They have to let WADA know where they are 24X7 even in between olympics. they don;t. that is what the "whereabouts" clause.
 
So all those players are in violation of Whereabouts clause and WADa doesn't seem to care
 

These players do not need to inform WADA in between the olympics.The USADA tests them once their participation in Olympics is confirmed.

Same with EPL SERIE A LA LIGA.Only players that play in UEFA matches or FIFA matches get checked by WADA.

UEFA and FIFA ask for team whereabouts not individual player.

Also since mlb nba nfl nhl dont recognise WADA there isnt anything WADA can do if players dont report whereabouts.They did try to force their way into these places but US courts threw them out.

[Malcolm Merlyn]

So we do agree on the substance.
 
Like I said IPL has everyright to do what NBA and NFL does.
 
Test cricket and ODI it becomes difficult if other nations agree. You dont want the DRS fiasco again.
 
Your and mine position is not that far apart if you read the bold statement.

Icc can test any cricketer during tests or ODIs. Icc can randomly test any cricketer by asking bcci to give his location which bcci provides within 24hrs.

What DRS fiasco?India accepted the DRS after it fulfilled the cricterias set by BCCI.

[Malcolm Merlyn]

20 minutes ago, Stumped said:

 

For those that don't know the whereabouts procedure only requires sports players to designate their location for 1 hour of the day and not the entire day as the above posts suggest.

Yes.1hr everyday between 6am to 11pm.

[cricketrulez]

45 minutes ago, Malcolm Merlyn said:

 

 

These players do not need to inform WADA in between the olympics.The USADA tests them once their participation in Olympics is confirmed.

Same with EPL SERIE A LA LIGA.Only players that play in UEFA matches or FIFA matches get checked by WADA.

UEFA and FIFA ask for team whereabouts not individual player.

Also since mlb nba nfl nhl dont recognise WADA there isnt anything WADA can do if players dont report whereabouts.They did try to force their way into these places but US courts threw them out.

Then that is a selective application of the whereabouts clause by WADA. The statute is very clear. the whereabouts clause is specifically about out of competition testing and in between Olympics and world championship they are out of competition.

 

The bone of contention is that WADA has not gone about threatening these countries like thet are with India and BCCI. India and BCCI should tell WADA to go * themselves..

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[Malcolm Merlyn]

2 minutes ago, Stumped said:

Curious over this statement, care to elaborate? Could be a discussion for another thread.

You can create a thread if you want.All of us can give our views.

[Malcolm Merlyn]

Just now, cricketrulez said:

Then that is a selective application of the whereabouts clause by WADA. The statute is very clear. the whereabouts clause is specifically about out of competition testing and in between Olympics and world championship they are out of competition.

 

The bone of contention is that WADA has not gone about threatening these countries like thet are with India and BCCI. India and BCCI should tell WADA to go * themselves..

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WADA perhaps believes that the present state of BCCI and the present Sports Minister may be the best oppurtunity to strike.

[cricketrulez]

16 minutes ago, Stumped said:

Curious over this statement, care to elaborate? Could be a discussion for another thread.

Start one I'll be happy to weigh in!

[cricketrulez]

37 minutes ago, Malcolm Merlyn said:

WADA perhaps believes that the present state of BCCI and the present Sports Minister may be the best oppurtunity to strike.

Bingo! and the WKK brigade has a boner just drooling at the thought of BCCI getting worked over.

 

WKK: Wagah Kandle Kissers

Edited October 29, 2017 by cricketrulez
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[Khota]

3 hours ago, Malcolm Merlyn said:

Icc can test any cricketer during tests or ODIs. Icc can randomly test any cricketer by asking bcci to give his location which bcci provides within 24hrs.

What DRS fiasco?India accepted the DRS after it fulfilled the cricterias set by BCCI.

How is privacy not compromised in this situation?

 

India accepted DRS. Rest was face saving . Feel free to start a thread.

[Khota]

3 hours ago, cricketrulez said:

Lets recap.

 

1) NFL follows its own policy which are lax and nowhere near as draconian as WADA requires of BCCI. You are happy with that, but you hate BCCI for saying no to WADA.. FTR per WADA  rules there is no exception for recreational drugs. Bryant is beyond help. I have been a steeler fan for quarter of century and drug issue in pittsburgh  has a long history going back to the days of Chuck knoll.

 

NFL wants to help its players? LMAO. by burying CTE reports and influencing CTE research? by callkin its players inmates in a prison? LMAO

 

2) Nope. There is no logic which says that if other countries agree BCCI has to agree. BCCI is well within its rights to choose its own drug testing policy. why WADA threatens rest of indian sport when they don't do the same for other nations like US?

 

3) According to WADA, for BCCI its binary. Either they are compliant of all of WADA clauses or they or not. Bit like being pregnant or not. even you should be able understand that. Yes, BCCI can and have boycotted for 10+ years with no consequence or action from WADA. only idiots have an issue with it.

 

4) nothing to do worth bureaucracy. Every thing to do with leverage.

 

 

 

 

1) Burden of proof is the reason why US organizations dont like WADA but NFl just might allow WADA.

 

Football is a violent sport. Everyone knows it. That comment was by one owner. You should not genaralize.

 

2) Is BCCI drug policy as rigorous as WADA? If yes they can get away if no they will have to follow Govt of India directive on that. BCCI will not be able to make its own policy.

 

3) If I am not mistaken olympic athletes have to follow WADA. Are cricketers more special than Bolt?

 

4) It is about a universal standard and compliance.

[Khota]

2 hours ago, Malcolm Merlyn said:

WADA perhaps believes that the present state of BCCI and the present Sports Minister may be the best oppurtunity to strike.

WADA is not looking at internal turmoil in BCCI. Paranoid much?

[Khota]

You can argue and shout. There will be a universal standard wither enforced by WADA or Indian govt which these guys at BCCI have to comply with.

 

This is a lose lose argument for BCCI. They need to focus on improving cricket and puttingthe correct team on the field. They sghould stop fighting lost causes.

 

In short get over it.

 

They are not trying to get BCCI. Just like actors cricket players in India have very little privacy. They are acting like priviliged brats.

[cricketrulez]

1 hour ago, Khota said:

You can argue and shout. There will be a universal standard wither enforced by WADA or Indian govt which these guys at BCCI have to comply with.

 

This is a lose lose argument for BCCI. They need to focus on improving cricket and puttingthe correct team on the field. They sghould stop fighting lost causes.

 

In short get over it.

 

They are not trying to get BCCI. Just like actors cricket players in India have very little privacy. They are acting like priviliged brats.

Spoken like a true WKK. no one can be dimwitted enough to not see the timing of this. even lowly PCB tried messing with BCCI.

 

Bet you are a fan of shashank manohar too.

Edited October 30, 2017 by cricketrulez

[cricketrulez]

1 hour ago, Khota said:

1) Burden of proof is the reason why US organizations dont like WADA but NFl just might allow WADA.

 

Football is a violent sport. Everyone knows it. That comment was by one owner. You should not genaralize.

 

2) Is BCCI drug policy as rigorous as WADA? If yes they can get away if no they will have to follow Govt of India directive on that. BCCI will not be able to make its own policy.

 

3) If I am not mistaken olympic athletes have to follow WADA. Are cricketers more special than Bolt?

 

4) It is about a universal standard and compliance.

1) so US professional sports don't comply with WADA and WADA has not threatened all US athletes but WADA is threatening India and Indian sports and you are okay with it.

 

2) why does it have to as rigorous as WADA? just becos u want it to be. Testing should be sport specific.

 

3) Do all olympic athletes follow WADA? like lebron, durant etc etc? sounds like they are more special than Bolt. Yeah Kohli and dhoni are more special than bolt. Suck it.

 

4) Universal standard set by who? Horses for courses.

Edited October 30, 2017 by cricketrulez

[Lannister]

BCCI is just behaving like a whore in this case who wants to seek attention no matter the situation. If its followed by other nations and teams, just stop bitching about it and accept it. As if their testing standards are world class that don't need outside help.

[Malcolm Merlyn]

WADA is not looking at internal turmoil in BCCI. Paranoid much?

So this is a coincidence?WADA was sleeping since 2009?

[Malcolm Merlyn]

BCCI is just behaving like a whore in this case who wants to seek attention no matter the situation. If its followed by other nations and teams, just stop bitching about it and accept it. As if their testing standards are world class that don't need outside help.

ICC does the testing.

[Khota]

2 hours ago, Malcolm Merlyn said:

5 hours ago, Lannister said:

BCCI is just behaving like a whore in this case who wants to seek attention no matter the situation. If its followed by other nations and teams, just stop bitching about it and accept it. As if their testing standards are world class that don't need outside help.

ICC does the testing.

Is ICC not trying to abide by WADA?

[Malcolm Merlyn]

Is ICC not trying to abide by WADA?

ICC doesnt abide by whereabouts rules etc.