Ponting is mediocre?

[cochise]

The last time you asked someone to retire in jest (MEK Hussey, remember?)...his career went into a tailspin and he still hasn't emerged. Now you ask Ponting to retire in jest again? Beware the curse of the DSR!!! :nervous:

[EnterTheVoid]

If this is a joke, I don't get it

[King Tendulkar]

If this is a joke' date=' I don't get it[/quote'] Get these stats for Ponting and explain? 2007 he averaged only 38 2008 he averaged 47 2009 he now averages a pathetic 32.

[graphic23]

Hey KT, Year 2003: 17.00 Avg Year 2005: 44 Avg Year 2006: 24.26 Avg Can you please guess which batsman this is ?

[King Tendulkar]

Hey KT, Year 2003: 17.00 Avg Year 2005: 44 Avg Year 2006: 24.26 Avg Can you please guess which batsman this is ?

No idea. Only interested in current form over last few years, as form over last few years is the baraomter of wether someone should retire. Thus ponting is mediocre over last 3 years so is on the way down. Same as Hussey over last year or so. Not interested in picking one year here and there and looking ar sustained patterns. Guess which batsmans recent form this is, he has whooped pontings ar#se!! 2004 91.50 2005 44.50 2006 24.27 2007 55.42 2008 48.61 2009 160 That is consistent brillinace over long sustained period. Comapre that to Pontings recent 3 years! Seriously guess who?

[satishg]

No idea. Only interested in current form over last few years, as form over last few years is the baraomter of wether someone should retire. Thus ponting is mediocre over last 3 years so is on the way down. Same as Hussey over last year or so. Not interested in picking one year here and there and looking ar sustained patterns. Guess which batsmans recent form this is, he has whooped pontings ar#se!! 2004 91.50 2005 44.50 2006 24.27 2007 55.42 2008 48.61 2009 160 That is consistent brillinace over long sustained period. Comapre that to Pontings recent 3 years! Seriously guess who?

lol..KT and graphic arent u guys talking about the same player :D the one and only :winky:

[Shane]

lol..KT and graphic arent u guys talking about the same player :D the one and only :winky:

:noway:

[satishg]

:noway:

yes way..check statsguru :winky:

[Shane]

yes way..check statsguru :winky:

:hmmmm2:dsr just put up SRT's stats, whereas Punterz was on graphz post

[satishg]

:hmmmm2:dsr just put up SRT's stats' date=' whereas Punterz was on graphz post[/quote'] lol Shane..SRTs avg in 2003 was 17, 2005 was 44, 2006 was 24..so there u go..hehe both are talking abt SRT and i am pretty sure both of them know that :D and btw Punters avg from 2003 to 2006 was sky rocketing..so u shd have got ur clue there since he was in prime back then

[Shane]

lol Shane..SRTs avg in 2003 was 17, 2005 was 44, 2006 was 24..so there u go..hehe both are talking abt SRT and i am pretty sure both of them know that :D and btw Punters avg from 2003 to 2006 was sky rocketing..so u shd have got ur clue there since he was in prime back then

I mite be drousy, but i can tell even i my sweetest dreamz that 160 in 09 is SRT'z :yawn2:

[graphic23]

lol..KT and graphic arent u guys talking about the same player :D the one and only :winky:

Satish, some of us are Sachin worshippers because we love Sachin - not because we hate other people. I don't need to praise Sachin by degrading Ponting. Apparently, that is not the case with others.

[King Tendulkar]

Satish' date=' some of us are Sachin worshippers because we love Sachin - not because we hate other people. I don't need to praise Sachin by degrading Ponting. Apparently, that is not the case with others.[/quote'] Whats degrading in pointing out someones slump in form? I have pointed out Haydens and Huuseys slump. Now just pointing out pontings clear slump and the fact he has performed poorly in the two hardest places to bat for him i.e India and England. What is your view on pontings last 3 years mediocre performance? Please clarify your views on his stats I have highlighted? If it was just one year it can be viewed as temporary out of form etc. But 3 years in a row!!! He is on a downward spiral me thinks!

[graphic23]

Talk to me again when another captain goes to England, gets whooped 2-1, is the first captain to lose the Ashes in 20 years, and then as a retaliation, wins the next series 5-0, first Australian captain since 1920s - and wins the man of the series by leading with the bat. Again, first series loss at home in 15 years, and then goes to SA with not much of a changed lineup and wins back the series 2-1. He's a great cricketer - maybe not a great captain. Yeah, I make fun of him when he makes stupid comments and they come back to bite him. I would never say a word about his batting prowess though. He has a weakness - so does every other batsman in the world, really. And regarding the stats, last 3 years is from Jan 1 2006 -> Present;

year 2006  	 	10  	1333  	196  	88.86  	7  	0  	-  	-  	0  	8  	0  	
year 2007 		4 	192 	56 	38.40 	0 	- 	- 	- 	- 	6 	0 	
year 2008 		14 	1182 	158 	47.28 	4 	0 	- 	- 	0 	13 	0 	
year 2009 		4 	263 	83 	32.87 	0 	- 	- 	- 	- 	6 	0 	

I'd say thats not a bad record at all. You might disagree though. Innings by Innings breakdown for those 4 years:

1st match innings  	2006-2009  	32  	1008  	196  	56.00  	5  	0  	-  	-  	0  	6  	0  	
2nd match innings 	2006-2009 	32 	850 	142 	60.71 	3 	- 	- 	- 	- 	9 	0 	
3rd match innings 	2006-2009 	32 	726 	116 	48.40 	1 	0 	- 	- 	0 	10 	0 	
4th match innings 	2006-2009 	26 	386 	143* 	64.33 	2 	- 	- 	- 	- 	8 	0 	

I'd say thats an awesome record fora batsman. Yeah, so even in the stats you posted, I've posted the same with a bit of breakup, and mine say that he was awesome, while yours suggest that he hasn't been reaching his own standards.

[fineleg]

Good writeup graphic. Punter is an excellent batsman, although I dislike him very much.

[Bumblebee]

Satish' date=' some of us are Sachin worshippers because we love Sachin - not because we hate other people. I don't need to praise Sachin by degrading Ponting. Apparently, that is not the case with others.[/quote'] very well put up!!

[dial_100]

Well... I wont call him mediocre at all. He is for sure in TOP 5 all time greats. However he is as individual, he is a good, actually very good batsman. And I also agree with the claim that he didn't face much strong bowling line up. Like WI he played very later when all of their Walsh, Ambrose were gone. Akram, Waqar, for Pak gone, McGrath, Warne he never played. and A donald and Pollock he played very late. He played much less against Pak. Only after 1998, especially in Pak he played only 1 game. In SA, he played only aftter 2002. And he got many 10+ test every year once all these bowlers are gone ie. after 1999-2000. On the contrary, SRT got very few tests in his early days when he was in Prime form only at 6.6 test per year. So you are playing 2 different countries 6 months apart. Also hey played NZ, SA, Pak, Eng, Aus from 1989-1992 unlike RP started playing in these nations late 90s or every early 2000. So were are talking about players of two adjacent eras. Thats how he got so fast w/ his centuries. SRT despite playing 157 tests, played only 69 at home but RP played 73 of his 130 test in Australia. Hard to compare. So even though RP scored his runs quickly, he played too many games in short time.

[Anakin]

All I can say about Pwnting is, his batting peak and the slump of bowling quality will draw very similar graphs.

[graphic23]

All I can say about Pwnting is' date=' his batting peak and the slump of bowling quality will draw very similar graphs.[/quote'] You play at what you're given. How can he go back and play Curtly Ambrose at his peak when he's retired ?

[Anakin]

Well he did play the latter part of 90s didn't he? If he couldn't handle them, I can guess what he'd done against Ambrose