Jimmy Cliff Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 2 hours ago, zen said: Avg*SR is only a part of the stats. It comes in to play when metrics such as avg are similar. Anyone who claims to be doing stats for breakfast should know this .... Below, Lara averages 10+. Here Tendulkar is more like Chanderpaul in WI team Does Chanderpaul average nearly 8 runs higher than Lara against ATG bowling pairs in live Tests like Sachin? I don't think so. So another atrocious comparison by you . But if he does, then that's another L for you! 2 hours ago, zen said: I don't know why cricinfo publishes such crap .... and you want people to waste their time on this btw, i hope that you know that you lost points for losing a test. For e.g. if Aus were to beat Ind 4-0, it would have become #1 (now knowing your level, I would clarify that I know that Ind is 1-0 ahead so Aus cannot win 4-0) It publishes these articles so that we get to know the batsmen who have historically cashed in dead rubbers compared to live Tests. Of course agenda peddlers find these results uncomfortable . But I hope that you know that teams are always looking up to their batsmen to deliver the goods when the series is alive and the stakes are high. A 400* not out in a dead Test is pretty much useless if you've let the team down when the series was alive. As I fan I am far more interested in who is more likely to make the runs when the series is live than someone who is more likely to help me save face in a dead rubber. 2 hours ago, zen said: No offense but by pointing to that article,you have shown you are not qualified enough to be making such assessments (or still have a long way to go) .... FYI, even kids here do better analysis .... Thanks for the comedy though I am sure most kids here know AVG*SR means square root of * all in Tests and runs in live Tests are far more crucial than dead rubber orgies . Why do you think someone like Rahul gets so much stick here when he just scored a 149 a few Tests back. It's because they know that 149 was utterly inconsequential in the series context. Just like about 2k of Lara's runs! Do appreciate the Avg*SR metric though. It will go down as your 2nd most hilarious contribution to the forum after RPT . Link to comment
Jimmy Cliff Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 2 hours ago, zen said: Avg*SR is only a part of the stats. It comes in to play when metrics such as avg are similar. Anyone who claims to be doing stats for breakfast should know this .... Below, Lara averages 10+. Here Tendulkar is more like Chanderpaul in WI team Does Chanderpaul average nearly 8 runs higher than Lara against ATG bowling pairs in live Tests like Sachin? I don't think so. So another atrocious comparison by you . But if he does, then that's another L for you! 2 hours ago, zen said: I don't know why cricinfo publishes such crap .... and you want people to waste their time on this btw, i hope that you know that you lost points for losing a test. For e.g. if Aus were to beat Ind 4-0, it would have become #1 (now knowing your level, I would clarify that I know that Ind is 1-0 ahead so Aus cannot win 4-0) It publishes these articles so that we get to know the batsmen who have historically cashed in dead rubbers compared to live Tests. Of course agenda peddlers find these results uncomfortable . But I hope that you know that teams are always looking up to their batsmen to deliver the goods when the series is alive and the stakes are high. A 400* not out in a dead Test is pretty much useless if you've let the team down when the series was alive. As I fan I am far more interested in who is more likely to make the runs when the series is live than someone who is more likely to help me save face in a dead rubber. 2 hours ago, zen said: No offense but by pointing to that article,you have shown you are not qualified enough to be making such assessments (or still have a long way to go) .... FYI, even kids here do better analysis .... Thanks for the comedy though I am sure most kids here know AVG*SR means square root of * all in Tests and runs in live Tests are far more crucial than dead rubber orgies . Why do you think someone like Rahul gets so much stick here when he just scored a 149 a few Tests back. It's because they know that 149 was utterly inconsequential in the series context. Just like about 2k of Lara's runs! Do appreciate the Avg*SR metric though. It will go down as your 2nd most hilarious contribution to the forum after RPT . Link to comment
zen Posted December 16, 2018 Author Share Posted December 16, 2018 6 hours ago, Jimmy Cliff said: Does Chanderpaul average nearly 8 runs higher than Lara against ATG bowling pairs in live Tests like Sachin? I don't think so. So another atrocious comparison by you . But if he does, then that's another L for you! Point is that Tendulkar is a class below .... A stats compiler who entertains under educated folks like you Quote It publishes these articles so that we get to know the batsmen who have historically cashed in dead rubbers compared to live Tests. Of course agenda peddlers find these results uncomfortable . But I hope that you know that teams are always looking up to their batsmen to deliver the goods when the series is alive and the stakes are high. A 400* not out in a dead Test is pretty much useless if you've let the team down when the series was alive. As I fan I am far more interested in who is more likely to make the runs when the series is live than someone who is more likely to help me save face in a dead rubber. And no one reads such crap ..... and we can see how an agenda peddler like you is getting worked up on a thread on Ind batsmen where Tendulkar, who is not even the key subject of the thread, does not measure up Quote I am sure most kids here know AVG*SR means square root of * all in Tests and runs in live Tests are far more crucial than dead rubber orgies . Why do you think someone like Rahul gets so much stick here when he just scored a 149 a few Tests back. It's because they know that 149 was utterly inconsequential in the series context. Just like about 2k of Lara's runs! Do appreciate the Avg*SR metric though. It will go down as your 2nd most hilarious contribution to the forum after RPT . I would rather take insights from any kid here than arguably a professional who writes crap on cricinfo .... and you took the trouble to a crap article on dead rubbers to show undermine Lara's runs as Lara is a better test batsman And as posted Excluding BD and Zim, Lara has played 224 innings: Records type batting analysis [change type] View career summary [change view] Primary team West Indies Opposition team Australia or England or India or New Zealand or Pakistan or South Africa or Sri Lanka Ordered by default (ascending) Return to query menu Cleared query menu Career averages Span Mat Inns NO Runs HS Ave BF SR 100 50 0 4s 6s unfiltered 1990-2006 131 232 6 11953 400* 52.88 19753 60.51 34 48 17 1559 88 Profile filtered 1990-2006 126 224 6 11517 400* 52.83 19211 59.95 32 47 17 1504 81 Similarly, Tendulkar at his 224th inning vs these sides: Records type batting analysis [change type] View career summary [change view] Opposition team Australia or England or New Zealand or Pakistan or South Africa or Sri Lanka or West Indies Start of match date less than or equal to 13 Aug 2008 Ordered by default (ascending) Return to query menu Cleared query menu Career averages Span Mat Inns NO Runs HS Ave 100 50 0 unfiltered 1989-2013 200 329 33 15921 248* 53.78 51 68 14 Profile filtered 1989-2008 136 224 21 10403 241* 51.24 33 46 13 They have the same # of 50+ scores with Lara having a 50 more, while Tendulkar has a 100 more. Therefore, both of them are equally consistent Lara has scored 1114 more! Lara averages 53 with just 6 not outs; Tendulkar averages 51 with 21 not outs This also highlights Tendulkar's inability to score big 100s relative to Lara's PS Again, when we throw in numbers vs the benchmarked bowling pairs + Murali, the difference in avg is even higher (+10)! Additionally, Lara's runs are relatively more valuable for his team: During Lara's career vs the selected sides: View overall figures [change view] Primary team West Indies Opposition team Australia or England or India or New Zealand or Pakistan or South Africa or Sri Lanka or West Indies Start of match date between 1 Jan 1990 and 1 Jan 2007 Qualifications runs scored greater than or equal to 2000 Ordered by batting average (descending) Page 1 of 1 Showing 1 - 11 of 11 First Previous Next Last Return to query menu Cleared query menu Overall figures Player Span Mat Inns NO Runs HS Ave BF SR 100 50 0 BC Lara 1990-2006 126 224 6 11517 400* 52.83 19211 59.95 32 47 17 S Chanderpaul 1994-2006 91 159 20 6330 203* 45.53 14733 42.96 13 39 10 DL Haynes 1990-1994 31 56 8 2147 167 44.72 4518 47.52 6 8 3 RB Richardson 1990-1995 41 70 5 2629 182 40.44 5323 49.38 6 14 5 JC Adams 1992-2001 52 87 16 2867 208* 40.38 7480 38.32 5 14 7 The combined average of the next 4 batsmen is 43 Lara averages 53 (+10) Avg difference b/w #1 and #2 is 7 During Tendulkar's career vs the selected sides: View overall figures [change view] Primary team India Opposition team Australia or England or India or New Zealand or Pakistan or South Africa or Sri Lanka or West Indies Start of match date between 1 Jan 1989 and 1 Jan 2013 Qualifications runs scored greater than or equal to 2000 Ordered by batting average (descending) Page 1 of 1 Showing 1 - 10 of 10 First Previous Next Last Return to query menu Cleared query menu Overall figures Player Span Mat Inns NO Runs HS Ave 100 50 0 SR Tendulkar 1989-2012 178 297 27 13907 241* 51.50 43 63 13 V Sehwag 2001-2012 94 165 4 8124 319 50.45 23 28 16 R Dravid 1996-2012 147 261 27 11726 270 50.11 30 57 6 VVS Laxman 1996-2012 125 213 32 8384 281 46.32 16 55 14 M Azharuddin 1989-2000 69 103 6 4357 192 44.91 16 15 4 The combined average of the next 4 batsmen is 48 Tendulkar averages 51 (+3) Avg difference b/w #1 and #2 is 1 Link to comment
zen Posted December 16, 2018 Author Share Posted December 16, 2018 (edited) 15 hours ago, Jimmy Cliff said: Does Chanderpaul average nearly 8 runs higher than Lara against ATG bowling pairs in live Tests like Sachin? I don't think so. So another atrocious comparison by you . But if he does, then that's another L for you! Appears as if you have lost your bearings after seeing that Tendulkar is a class below against such attacks (and typing random stuff) .... A stats compiler whose stats are producing diminishing returns for him Quote It publishes these articles so that we get to know the batsmen who have historically cashed in dead rubbers compared to live Tests. Of course agenda peddlers find these results uncomfortable . But I hope that you know that teams are always looking up to their batsmen to deliver the goods when the series is alive and the stakes are high. A 400* not out in a dead Test is pretty much useless if you've let the team down when the series was alive. As I fan I am far more interested in who is more likely to make the runs when the series is live than someone who is more likely to help me save face in a dead rubber. No one reads such crap like your article ..... and we can see how an agenda peddler like you is getting worked up on a thread on Ind batsmen which would include Tendulkar, who is not even the key subject of the thread, and where he does not measure up even among his peers (forget Lara) .... and probably people like you spend more time on a thread on ICF than on your crap articles Quote I am sure most kids here know AVG*SR means square root of * all in Tests and runs in live Tests are far more crucial than dead rubber orgies . Why do you think someone like Rahul gets so much stick here when he just scored a 149 a few Tests back. It's because they know that 149 was utterly inconsequential in the series context. Just like about 2k of Lara's runs! Do appreciate the Avg*SR metric though. It will go down as your 2nd most hilarious contribution to the forum after RPT . I would rather take insights from any kid here than an agenda peddler like you who writes crap on cricinfo to forward his biases .... Good to know that you took the trouble to write a crap article on dead rubbers to probably undermine Lara's runs as Lara is a better test batsman (but people probably read this thread more than your crap article) Well it is not a surprise that on a thread on ATG Indian batting, which would include Sachin and where he does not quite measure up, riles up a dumb Sachin fan who has worked hard on writing crap articles on cricinfo to undermine Sachin's competition and tries to portray any metric where Sachin is not ahead as dubious and controversial (I hope that you are NOT posting from a mental asylum) .... Sorry, but I am not your doctor to help you get over such hurdles and feel good about Sachin and yourself PS as posted to help you to kill some time in the mental asylum (note that it not good for your mental health so proceed with caution) Excluding BD and Zim, Lara has played 224 innings: Records type batting analysis [change type] View career summary [change view] Primary team West Indies Opposition team Australia or England or India or New Zealand or Pakistan or South Africa or Sri Lanka ulOrdered by default (ascending) Return to query menu Cleared query menu Career averages Span Mat Inns NO Runs HS Ave BF SR 100 50 0 4s 6s unfiltered 1990-2006 131 232 6 11953 400* 52.88 19753 60.51 34 48 17 1559 88 Profile filtered 1990-2006 126 224 6 11517 400* 52.83 19211 59.95 32 47 17 1504 81 Similarly, Tendulkar at his 224th inning vs these sides: Records type batting analysis [change type] View career summary [change view] Opposition team Australia or England or New Zealand or Pakistan or South Africa or Sri Lanka or West Indies Start of match date less than or equal to 13 Aug 2008 Ordered by default (ascending) Return to query menu Cleared query menu Career averages Span Mat Inns NO Runs HS Ave 100 50 0 unfiltered 1989-2013 200 329 33 15921 248* 53.78 51 68 14 Profile filtered 1989-2008 136 224 21 10403 241* 51.24 33 46 13 They have the same # of 50+ scores with Lara having a 50 more, while Tendulkar has a 100 more. Therefore, both of them are equally consistent Lara has scored 1114 more! Lara averages 53 with just 6 not outs; Tendulkar averages 51 with 21 not outs This also highlights Tendulkar's inability to score big 100s relative to Lara's PS Again, when we throw in numbers vs the benchmarked bowling pairs + Murali, the difference in avg is even higher (+10)! Additionally, Lara's runs are relatively more valuable for his team: During Lara's career vs the selected sides: View overall figures [change view] Primary team West Indies Opposition team Australia or England or India or New Zealand or Pakistan or South Africa or Sri Lanka or West Indies Start of match date between 1 Jan 1990 and 1 Jan 2007 Qualifications runs scored greater than or equal to 2000 Ordered by batting average (descending) Page 1 of 1 Showing 1 - 11 of 11 First Previous Next Last Return to query menu Cleared query menu Overall figures Player Span Mat Inns NO Runs HS Ave BF SR 100 50 0 BC Lara 1990-2006 126 224 6 11517 400* 52.83 19211 59.95 32 47 17 S Chanderpaul 1994-2006 91 159 20 6330 203* 45.53 14733 42.96 13 39 10 DL Haynes 1990-1994 31 56 8 2147 167 44.72 4518 47.52 6 8 3 RB Richardson 1990-1995 41 70 5 2629 182 40.44 5323 49.38 6 14 5 JC Adams 1992-2001 52 87 16 2867 208* 40.38 7480 38.32 5 14 7 The combined average of the next 4 batsmen is 43 Lara averages 53 (+10) Avg difference b/w #1 and #2 is 7 During Tendulkar's career vs the selected sides: View overall figures [change view] Primary team India Opposition team Australia or England or India or New Zealand or Pakistan or South Africa or Sri Lanka or West Indies Start of match date between 1 Jan 1989 and 1 Jan 2013 Qualifications runs scored greater than or equal to 2000 Ordered by batting average (descending) Page 1 of 1 Showing 1 - 10 of 10 First Previous Next Last Return to query menu Cleared query menu Overall figures Player Span Mat Inns NO Runs HS Ave 100 50 0 SR Tendulkar 1989-2012 178 297 27 13907 241* 51.50 43 63 13 V Sehwag 2001-2012 94 165 4 8124 319 50.45 23 28 16 R Dravid 1996-2012 147 261 27 11726 270 50.11 30 57 6 VVS Laxman 1996-2012 125 213 32 8384 281 46.32 16 55 14 M Azharuddin 1989-2000 69 103 6 4357 192 44.91 16 15 4 The combined average of the next 4 batsmen is 48 Tendulkar averages 51 (+3) Avg difference b/w #1 and #2 is 1 Edited December 17, 2018 by zen Link to comment
Jimmy Cliff Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 8 hours ago, zen said: Point is that Tendulkar is a class below .... A stats compiler who entertains under educated folks like you The point is Tendulkar is a well ahead of Lara not just against ATG bowling pairs but also overall in live Tests. An angoothachhap like you who is amused by Lara's dead rubber exploits can stay in denial about it . 8 hours ago, zen said: No one reads such crap like your article ..... and we can see how an agenda peddler like you is getting worked up on a thread on Ind batsmen where Tendulkar, who is not even the key subject of the thread, does not measure up even among his peers (forget Lara) .... and probably people like you spend more time on a thread on ICF than on your crap articles Couldn't care less about the number of clicks for the article. What's important is that whether the stats mentioned in the article are accurate or not. Unfortunately for 3rd rate agenda peddlers are like you, they are! No wonder you lost your marbles after reading the article. 8 hours ago, zen said: I would rather take insights from any kid here than arguably a professional who writes crap on cricinfo .... and you took the trouble to a crap article on dead rubbers to show undermine Lara's runs as Lara is a better test batsman Just because the article exposes Lara to be a dead rubber warrior, doesn't make it crap. The stats are available for everyone including rate 3rd agenda peddlers like you. Prove the author wrong if you can. Unfortunately you can't as their numbers are spot on . 8 hours ago, zen said: And as posted Excluding BD and Zim, Lara has played 224 innings: Records type batting analysis [change type] View career summary [change view] Primary team West Indies Opposition team Australia or England or India or New Zealand or Pakistan or South Africa or Sri Lanka Ordered by default (ascending) Return to query menu Cleared query menu Career averages Span Mat Inns NO Runs HS Ave BF SR 100 50 0 4s 6s unfiltered 1990-2006 131 232 6 11953 400* 52.88 19753 60.51 34 48 17 1559 88 Profile filtered 1990-2006 126 224 6 11517 400* 52.83 19211 59.95 32 47 17 1504 81 Similarly, Tendulkar at his 224th inning vs these sides: Records type batting analysis [change type] View career summary [change view] Opposition team Australia or England or New Zealand or Pakistan or South Africa or Sri Lanka or West Indies Start of match date less than or equal to 13 Aug 2008 Ordered by default (ascending) Return to query menu Cleared query menu Career averages Span Mat Inns NO Runs HS Ave 100 50 0 unfiltered 1989-2013 200 329 33 15921 248* 53.78 51 68 14 Profile filtered 1989-2008 136 224 21 10403 241* 51.24 33 46 13 They have the same # of 50+ scores with Lara having a 50 more, while Tendulkar has a 100 more. Therefore, both of them are equally consistent Lara has scored 1114 more! Lara averages 53 with just 6 not outs; Tendulkar averages 51 with 21 not outs This also highlights Tendulkar's inability to score big 100s relative to Lara's More irrelevant bollocks. Tendulkar's career didn't end after 224 innings. These are the stats that matter In live Tests against non-minnows throughout their career, Tendulkar has 13k+ runs at 51+. Lara has 9K+ runs at 48+ Against ATG bowling pairs (McGrath-Warne, Ws, Pollock-Donald, Ambrose-Walsh) in live Tests: Tendulkar has 1357 runs at 45.23. Lara has 1658 runs at 37.68. Don't give a * about about dead rubbers. Link to comment
Global.Baba Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 I am so sick of these Sachin debates at this point that I rather concede defeat and agree that Sachin was a hack and walk away. I mean clearly to prove that a guy unanimously hailed by many experts as one of the greatest batsman to ever play the game was USELESS takes a lot of effort,dedication, number crunching and coming up with various outliers. For that effort alone as a Sachin fan it is better to take the high road. At this point memories of some great moments of Sachin on YouTube and some random Sachin mango picking videos on FB/Instagram are good enough. Will be revilaitized once Arjun comes in to the fray :) then bring on the stats Sobers who??? Link to comment
zen Posted December 17, 2018 Author Share Posted December 17, 2018 (edited) Quote Couldn't care less about the number of clicks for the article. What's important is that whether the stats mentioned in the article are accurate or not. Unfortunately for 3rd rate agenda peddlers are like you, they are! No wonder you lost your marbles after reading the article. Dumbass, nobody reads or cares about your article. The thread is about what I care Quote More irrelevant bollocks. Tendulkar's career didn't end after 224 innings. Buddy, get proper education. First, understand what is being implied and shown Quote The point is Tendulkar is a well ahead of Lara not just against ATG bowling pairs but also overall in live Tests. An angoothachhap like you who is amused by Lara's dead rubber exploits can stay in denial about it My stats show that Lara is ahead .... That is what counts .... too rich for someone like you to be calling others angootha chaap and peddlers. you reminds me of beggars in India, who when they don't get what they want start abusing (which is another Sachin fanboy trait) Anyways, I understand why a mental midget like you would be a fan of Tendulkar .... easily cracks where a stat does not show him ahead as if the world is torn apart and has to fight to go back to his delusional world Quote In live Tests against non-minnows throughout their career, Tendulkar has 13k+ runs at 51+. Lara has 9K+ runs at 48+ Against ATG bowling pairs (McGrath-Warne, Ws, Pollock-Donald, Ambrose-Walsh) in live Tests: Tendulkar has 1357 runs at 45.23. Lara has 1658 runs at 37.68. Don't care much about the above (and I have presented stats too) but I would hope that anyone who claims to be writing stats based articles would at least know that when comparing two players one should try to include bowlers they both faced Quote Don't give a * about about dead rubbers then go to hell. why are you wasting time here /discussion Edited December 17, 2018 by zen Link to comment
zen Posted December 17, 2018 Author Share Posted December 17, 2018 35 minutes ago, Global.Baba said: I am so sick of these Sachin debates at this point that I rather concede defeat and agree that Sachin was a hack and walk away. Exactly. I don't know why some folks try to go around proving Sachin is the best when someone thinks other batsman is better .... it is not like if someone else is better, Sachin is not one of the greats Link to comment
zen Posted December 17, 2018 Author Share Posted December 17, 2018 Aus ATG 11 from retired players Hayden Ponting Bradman Chappell Border Waugh Gilly Warne Lillee Thomson McGrath Link to comment
Jimmy Cliff Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 13 minutes ago, zen said: Dumbass, no body cares about your article. The thread is about what I care LMAO. The agenda peddler is cracking. Hate to break it to you pal, those stone-cold facts in the article aren't waiting for your validation. 18 minutes ago, zen said: Buddy, get proper education. First, understand what is being implied and shown Buddy, an angoothachhaap shouldn't really be talking about education. There's no ground breaking information being revealed here. Just dire stats-picking in pursuit of an agenda. Doesn't take much to deliver a smackdown . 26 minutes ago, zen said: My stats show that Lara is ahead .... That is what counts .... too rich for someone like you to be calling others angootha chaap and peddlers. you reminds me of beggars in India, who when they don't get what they want start abusing I understand why a mental midget like you would be a fan of Tendulkar .... easily cracks where a stat does not show him ahead I am sure a 3rd rate agenda peddler like you can put together a few more dubious filters to put Lara ahead. Doesn't mean much. The rest of your assertions are meaningless. Almost like Lara's runs in dead rubbers . But yeah do continue making retarded arguments and then accuse me of cracking/abusing. Seems to be your MO when confronted with the harsh reality. 35 minutes ago, zen said: then go to hell. why are you wasting time here Look at the state of this agenda merchant. Are you okay buddy? Things getting too hot under the collar? Unfortunately for you, I'd continue to post as I please. Link to comment
zen Posted December 17, 2018 Author Share Posted December 17, 2018 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Jimmy Cliff said: LMAO. The agenda peddler is cracking. Hate to break it to you pal, those stone-cold facts in the article aren't waiting for your validation. Buddy, an angoothachhaap shouldn't really be talking about education. There's no ground breaking information being revealed here. Just dire stats-picking in pursuit of an agenda. Doesn't take much to deliver a smackdown . I am sure a 3rd rate agenda peddler like you can put together a few more dubious filters to put Lara ahead. Doesn't mean much. The rest of your assertions are meaningless. Almost like Lara's runs in dead rubbers . But yeah do continue making retarded arguments and then accuse me of cracking/abusing. Seems to be your MO when confronted with the harsh reality. good to see cricinfo provides some work to undereducated folks like you ..... I hope that you will not turn it into crapinfo Quote Look at the state of this agenda merchant. Are you okay buddy? Things getting too hot under the collar? So the agenda of this thread was to discuss Lara vs Tendulkar? .... My OP is not that difficult to read that even a poorly educated person like you cannot understand it Thank you for proving my point Quote Unfortunately for you, I'd continue to post as I please And I am sure you would go to washroom in the open too in your chali, throw garbage everywhere, .... Edited December 17, 2018 by zen Link to comment
Jimmy Cliff Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 3 minutes ago, zen said: good to see cricinfo provide some work to undereducated people like you ..... I hope that you will not turn it into crapinfo So the agenda if this thread was to discuss Lara vs Tendulkar .... My OP is not that difficult to read that even a poorly educated person like you cannot understand it And I am sure you would go to washroom in the open too in your chali And that's how a 3rd rate agenda peddler goes full retard and ends up exposing his aukaat in the process . Link to comment
zen Posted December 17, 2018 Author Share Posted December 17, 2018 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Jimmy Cliff said: And that's how a 3rd rate agenda peddler goes full retard and ends up exposing his aukaat in the process . Keep dreaming, crapinfo! .... while your pants are on fire (and had to turn a thread in to Lara vs Tendulkar, who may punish you in your dreams if you did not fight for him) Edited December 17, 2018 by zen Link to comment
Jimmy Cliff Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, zen said: Keep dreaming! For your sake, I hope my comments in this thread don't give you nightmares . It's okay man, you'll cope. Link to comment
zen Posted December 17, 2018 Author Share Posted December 17, 2018 1 minute ago, Jimmy Cliff said: For your sake, I hope my comments in this thread don't give you nightmares . It's okay man, you'll cope. Good job! Now Tendulkar will not punish you in your dreams as your comments is giving nightmares to all those who read it "Below is for "all" [McGrath + Warne; Donald + Pollock; Murali] combined: " Link to comment
Jimmy Cliff Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 1 minute ago, zen said: Good job! Now Tendulkar will not punish you in your dreams as your comments is giving nightmares to all those who read it "Below is for "all" [McGrath + Warne; Donald + Pollock; Murali] combined: " Speak for yourself buddy. Your flat assertions are as useless as Lara's dead rubber exploits . These are the stats in the games that matter In live Tests against non-minnows throughout their career, Tendulkar has 13k+ runs at 51+. Lara has 9K+ runs at 48+ Against ATG bowling pairs (McGrath-Warne, Ws, Pollock-Donald, Ambrose-Walsh) in live Tests: Tendulkar has 1357 runs at 45.23. Lara has 1658 runs at 37.68. Don't give a * about about dead rubbers. Link to comment
zen Posted December 17, 2018 Author Share Posted December 17, 2018 1 minute ago, Jimmy Cliff said: Speak for yourself buddy. Your flat assertions are as useless as Lara's dead rubber exploits . These are the stats in the games that matter In live Tests against non-minnows throughout their career, Tendulkar has 13k+ runs at 51+. Lara has 9K+ runs at 48+ Against ATG bowling pairs (McGrath-Warne, Ws, Pollock-Donald, Ambrose-Walsh) in live Tests: Tendulkar has 1357 runs at 45.23. Lara has 1658 runs at 37.68. Don't give a * about about dead rubbers. crapinfo^ .... copy and paste below .... please fight for Tendulkar or he may not consider you as a fan PS as posted to help you to kill some time in the mental asylum (note that it not good for your mental health so proceed with caution) Excluding BD and Zim, Lara has played 224 innings: Records type batting analysis [change type] View career summary [change view] Primary team West Indies Opposition team Australia or England or India or New Zealand or Pakistan or South Africa or Sri Lanka ulOrdered by default (ascending) Return to query menu Cleared query menu Career averages Span Mat Inns NO Runs HS Ave BF SR 100 50 0 4s 6s unfiltered 1990-2006 131 232 6 11953 400* 52.88 19753 60.51 34 48 17 1559 88 Profile filtered 1990-2006 126 224 6 11517 400* 52.83 19211 59.95 32 47 17 1504 81 Similarly, Tendulkar at his 224th inning vs these sides: Records type batting analysis [change type] View career summary [change view] Opposition team Australia or England or New Zealand or Pakistan or South Africa or Sri Lanka or West Indies Start of match date less than or equal to 13 Aug 2008 Ordered by default (ascending) Return to query menu Cleared query menu Career averages Span Mat Inns NO Runs HS Ave 100 50 0 unfiltered 1989-2013 200 329 33 15921 248* 53.78 51 68 14 Profile filtered 1989-2008 136 224 21 10403 241* 51.24 33 46 13 They have the same # of 50+ scores with Lara having a 50 more, while Tendulkar has a 100 more. Therefore, both of them are equally consistent Lara has scored 1114 more! Lara averages 53 with just 6 not outs; Tendulkar averages 51 with 21 not outs This also highlights Tendulkar's inability to score big 100s relative to Lara's PS Again, when we throw in numbers vs the benchmarked bowling pairs + Murali, the difference in avg is even higher (+10)! Additionally, Lara's runs are relatively more valuable for his team: During Lara's career vs the selected sides: View overall figures [change view] Primary team West Indies Opposition team Australia or England or India or New Zealand or Pakistan or South Africa or Sri Lanka or West Indies Start of match date between 1 Jan 1990 and 1 Jan 2007 Qualifications runs scored greater than or equal to 2000 Ordered by batting average (descending) Page 1 of 1 Showing 1 - 11 of 11 First Previous Next Last Return to query menu Cleared query menu Overall figures Player Span Mat Inns NO Runs HS Ave BF SR 100 50 0 BC Lara 1990-2006 126 224 6 11517 400* 52.83 19211 59.95 32 47 17 S Chanderpaul 1994-2006 91 159 20 6330 203* 45.53 14733 42.96 13 39 10 DL Haynes 1990-1994 31 56 8 2147 167 44.72 4518 47.52 6 8 3 RB Richardson 1990-1995 41 70 5 2629 182 40.44 5323 49.38 6 14 5 JC Adams 1992-2001 52 87 16 2867 208* 40.38 7480 38.32 5 14 7 The combined average of the next 4 batsmen is 43 Lara averages 53 (+10) Avg difference b/w #1 and #2 is 7 During Tendulkar's career vs the selected sides: View overall figures [change view] Primary team India Opposition team Australia or England or India or New Zealand or Pakistan or South Africa or Sri Lanka or West Indies Start of match date between 1 Jan 1989 and 1 Jan 2013 Qualifications runs scored greater than or equal to 2000 Ordered by batting average (descending) Page 1 of 1 Showing 1 - 10 of 10 First Previous Next Last Return to query menu Cleared query menu Overall figures Player Span Mat Inns NO Runs HS Ave 100 50 0 SR Tendulkar 1989-2012 178 297 27 13907 241* 51.50 43 63 13 V Sehwag 2001-2012 94 165 4 8124 319 50.45 23 28 16 R Dravid 1996-2012 147 261 27 11726 270 50.11 30 57 6 VVS Laxman 1996-2012 125 213 32 8384 281 46.32 16 55 14 M Azharuddin 1989-2000 69 103 6 4357 192 44.91 16 15 4 The combined average of the next 4 batsmen is 48 Tendulkar averages 51 (+3) Avg difference b/w #1 and #2 is 1 Link to comment
Jimmy Cliff Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 3 minutes ago, zen said: crapinfo^ .... copy and paste below .... please fight for Tendulkar or he may not consider you as a fan PS as posted to help you to kill some time in the mental asylum (note that it not good for your mental health so proceed with caution) Excluding BD and Zim, Lara has played 224 innings: Records type batting analysis [change type] View career summary [change view] Primary team West Indies Opposition team Australia or England or India or New Zealand or Pakistan or South Africa or Sri Lanka ulOrdered by default (ascending) Return to query menu Cleared query menu Career averages Span Mat Inns NO Runs HS Ave BF SR 100 50 0 4s 6s unfiltered 1990-2006 131 232 6 11953 400* 52.88 19753 60.51 34 48 17 1559 88 Profile filtered 1990-2006 126 224 6 11517 400* 52.83 19211 59.95 32 47 17 1504 81 Similarly, Tendulkar at his 224th inning vs these sides: Records type batting analysis [change type] View career summary [change view] Opposition team Australia or England or New Zealand or Pakistan or South Africa or Sri Lanka or West Indies Start of match date less than or equal to 13 Aug 2008 Ordered by default (ascending) Return to query menu Cleared query menu Career averages Span Mat Inns NO Runs HS Ave 100 50 0 unfiltered 1989-2013 200 329 33 15921 248* 53.78 51 68 14 Profile filtered 1989-2008 136 224 21 10403 241* 51.24 33 46 13 They have the same # of 50+ scores with Lara having a 50 more, while Tendulkar has a 100 more. Therefore, both of them are equally consistent Lara has scored 1114 more! Lara averages 53 with just 6 not outs; Tendulkar averages 51 with 21 not outs This also highlights Tendulkar's inability to score big 100s relative to Lara's PS Again, when we throw in numbers vs the benchmarked bowling pairs + Murali, the difference in avg is even higher (+10)! Additionally, Lara's runs are relatively more valuable for his team: During Lara's career vs the selected sides: View overall figures [change view] Primary team West Indies Opposition team Australia or England or India or New Zealand or Pakistan or South Africa or Sri Lanka or West Indies Start of match date between 1 Jan 1990 and 1 Jan 2007 Qualifications runs scored greater than or equal to 2000 Ordered by batting average (descending) Page 1 of 1 Showing 1 - 11 of 11 First Previous Next Last Return to query menu Cleared query menu Overall figures Player Span Mat Inns NO Runs HS Ave BF SR 100 50 0 BC Lara 1990-2006 126 224 6 11517 400* 52.83 19211 59.95 32 47 17 S Chanderpaul 1994-2006 91 159 20 6330 203* 45.53 14733 42.96 13 39 10 DL Haynes 1990-1994 31 56 8 2147 167 44.72 4518 47.52 6 8 3 RB Richardson 1990-1995 41 70 5 2629 182 40.44 5323 49.38 6 14 5 JC Adams 1992-2001 52 87 16 2867 208* 40.38 7480 38.32 5 14 7 The combined average of the next 4 batsmen is 43 Lara averages 53 (+10) Avg difference b/w #1 and #2 is 7 During Tendulkar's career vs the selected sides: View overall figures [change view] Primary team India Opposition team Australia or England or India or New Zealand or Pakistan or South Africa or Sri Lanka or West Indies Start of match date between 1 Jan 1989 and 1 Jan 2013 Qualifications runs scored greater than or equal to 2000 Ordered by batting average (descending) Page 1 of 1 Showing 1 - 10 of 10 First Previous Next Last Return to query menu Cleared query menu Overall figures Player Span Mat Inns NO Runs HS Ave 100 50 0 SR Tendulkar 1989-2012 178 297 27 13907 241* 51.50 43 63 13 V Sehwag 2001-2012 94 165 4 8124 319 50.45 23 28 16 R Dravid 1996-2012 147 261 27 11726 270 50.11 30 57 6 VVS Laxman 1996-2012 125 213 32 8384 281 46.32 16 55 14 M Azharuddin 1989-2000 69 103 6 4357 192 44.91 16 15 4 The combined average of the next 4 batsmen is 48 Tendulkar averages 51 (+3) Avg difference b/w #1 and #2 is 1 Already addressed this load of garbage earlier. Nothing to see here . Link to comment
zen Posted December 17, 2018 Author Share Posted December 17, 2018 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Jimmy Cliff said: Already addressed this load of garbage earlier. Nothing to see here . Tendulkar will not be happy until you give everyone here more nightmares .... since he will be disappointed that you could not defend him well vs Lara .... may be try this, what happened vs Sehwag and Laxman below? Gavaskar Sehwag Dravid Tendulkar Laxman Of the top 5, 4 played most of their cricket together in the 1995 to 2012 period. Theoretically, Ind ATG 11 is likely to play ATG 11 of other teams, which would include their best bowling attack. When we look at performance of these 4 vs strong attacks, their numbers (apart from Sehwag's) are relatively poor: Against Aus with both McGrath and Warne, an example of a strong attack with variety, playing: View overall figures [change view] Primary team India Opposition team Australia Involving all of the players GD McGrath (AUS) or SK Warne (AUS) Qualifications runs scored greater than or equal to 200 Ordered by batting average (descending) Page 1 of 1 Showing 1 - 6 of 6 First Previous Next Last Return to query menu Cleared query menu Overall figures Player Span Mat Inns NO Runs HS Ave BF SR 100 50 0 4s 6s V Sehwag 2004-2004 3 6 1 286 155 57.20 409 69.92 1 1 1 42 0 VVS Laxman 1999-2004 9 17 0 777 281 45.70 1272 61.08 2 3 1 125 0 SR Tendulkar 1999-2004 7 14 0 592 126 42.28 1067 55.48 2 4 1 76 3 R Dravid 1999-2004 9 17 0 540 180 31.76 1597 33.81 1 2 2 62 1 S Ramesh 1999-2001 5 10 1 222 61 24.66 475 46.73 0 1 1 25 0 SC Ganguly 1999-2004 8 15 0 342 60 22.80 750 45.60 0 1 0 43 0 Edited December 17, 2018 by zen Link to comment
Jimmy Cliff Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 3 minutes ago, zen said: ..... Tendulkar will not be happy until you give everyone here more nightmares .... back to the topic, what happened vs Sehwag and Laxman below? Gavaskar Sehwag Dravid Tendulkar Laxman Of the top 5, 4 played most of their cricket together in the 1995 to 2012 period. Theoretically, Ind ATG 11 is likely to play ATG 11 of other teams, which would include their best bowling attack. When we look at performance of these 4 vs strong attacks, their numbers (apart from Sehwag's) are relatively poor: Against Aus with both McGrath and Warne, an example of a strong attack with variety, playing: View overall figures [change view] Primary team India Opposition team Australia Involving all of the players GD McGrath (AUS) or SK Warne (AUS) Qualifications runs scored greater than or equal to 200 Ordered by batting average (descending) Page 1 of 1 Showing 1 - 6 of 6 First Previous Next Last Return to query menu Cleared query menu Overall figures Player Span Mat Inns NO Runs HS Ave BF SR 100 50 0 4s 6s V Sehwag 2004-2004 3 6 1 286 155 57.20 409 69.92 1 1 1 42 0 VVS Laxman 1999-2004 9 17 0 777 281 45.70 1272 61.08 2 3 1 125 0 SR Tendulkar 1999-2004 7 14 0 592 126 42.28 1067 55.48 2 4 1 76 3 R Dravid 1999-2004 9 17 0 540 180 31.76 1597 33.81 1 2 2 62 1 S Ramesh 1999-2001 5 10 1 222 61 24.66 475 46.73 0 1 1 25 0 SC Ganguly 1999-2004 8 15 0 342 60 22.80 750 45.60 0 1 0 43 0 I'll answer this if you answer this question first . What happened to Lara in live Tests? An average of 37+ against ATG bowling pairs is disappointing to say the least. Based on this he shouldn't be first choice in the WI AT XI that will be up against other ATG sides . He can only be first choice in the AT dead rubber XI. Link to comment
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