Cricketics Posted May 2, 2008 Share Posted May 2, 2008 To me it's been a great success so far. Crowd coming in to cheer for players whom they don't even know about, players who would not have been recognised by public until they have got chance to play for India, are being recognised now by its own public. More over, games are being shown all over the world. Domestic players are being seen all over the world. they know they are being watched in different countries, playing along with game's great players, the will to perform is being seen in there game. regarding games not ending or going down the wire.. well it's twenty20.. not everygame gonna go down the wire.. even if a team is winning by 7 wicket, completing the chase of 160 runs in 17th over.. the game can't be considered as one sided. in such a minimal time, team has to score runs. not every game we will see going to the last over.. p.s - chandan, so u still think this 2020 ipl is just a circus like tournament?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandan Posted May 2, 2008 Share Posted May 2, 2008 chandan, so u still think this 2020 ipl is just a circus like tournament?? I wouldn't say a circus tournament but quite close to it. As I said, the shorter boundaries have taken the excitement from sixes away. Our older players are yet to adapt to this format and think on their feet. Only Dhoni and Warne have shown terrific captaincy skills. Young talent is getting a big stage to showcase its worth and that is the only thing which has kept me glued to TV for these matches. I can see how quickly YoMahesh is learning in the company of McGrath. Till now, Ive not been bored. I'm always ready for cricket feast even if I'm not supporting any particulr team. In every match I find which team to support and and my support for the team ends with the match itself. And with that I mean there is no emotional anxiety as I have when India is playing. I'm enjoying cricket as I had enjoyed the 2005 Ashes or 2004 England vs SA series. Good cricket is the only thing I expect and enjoy in this tournament. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swami1984 Posted May 2, 2008 Share Posted May 2, 2008 And with that I mean there is no emotional anxiety as I have when India is playing When India is playing, the only thing worth watching is overseas Test matches (because home ones are too much in favor of batting), and Ind-Aus-Saf ODIs. These days even Ind-Pak ODI/Test has become so damn boring... IPL is a breath of fresh air IMO - I wanted to see the matchups (Lee vs. Hayden, Sehwag vs. Ishant etc), as well as the camaraderie between sworn enemies like Warne & Smith etc. Its good to see the interaction between say Hussey and Badrinath (I remember the game between CSK and Punjab when Hussey was instructing Badri on handling Lee) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HariSampath Posted May 2, 2008 Share Posted May 2, 2008 Good post Chandan. My disappointment in the IPL so far is that given the fact it is a shortened ODI, and terribly batsman friendly, no team is very good chasing runs. The real charm of cricket in any limited overs format , ODI or T20, is a team facing a tall score and an exhilarating runchase settling the issue with a last over/ball win. In this particular format this should ideally be happening more often than ODIs. This is because a ODI chase of 300+ will have to be planned over a 50 over time and many an opportunity exists for the chasing time to slip up, but in T20, the chasing and winning chances ( of high totals) should be more, but no team seems to have the hang of it. Most teams initially were preferring to bat first, many still do and set up a target. Those teams preferring to chase are those who dont quite know what is the "ideal target", but are somewhat comfortable chasing the 140-160 scores. If the batting team sets a "soft target", that is the 140-160 range, then the chasing team wins, if the other teams manages to add 20+ runs to the 160, mostly the chasing team is gone. I would like to think that T20/IPL would have evolved lots more when we see totals of 200+ being chased and won, that would be the real thriller for avid limited overs fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swami1984 Posted May 2, 2008 Share Posted May 2, 2008 Good post Chandan. My disappointment in the IPL so far is that given the fact it is a shortened ODI, and terribly batsman friendly, no team is very good chasing runs. The real charm of cricket in any limited overs format , ODI or T20, is a team facing a tall score and an exhilarating runchase settling the issue with a last over/ball win. In this particular format this should ideally be happening more often than ODIs. This is because a ODI chase of 300+ will have to be planned over a 50 over time and many an opportunity exists for the chasing time to slip up, but in T20, the chasing and winning chances ( of high totals) should be more, but no team seems to have the hang of it. It need not be a 300+ score. My all-time favorite game was the '99 WC Semifinal tie between Aus and SA...scores were 213. An even contest between bat and ball would be awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HariSampath Posted May 2, 2008 Share Posted May 2, 2008 ^ I know...there had been several games like that in T20...the tie and the bowlout last year against Pakistan too was exciting. But in my post I had said one of the most thrilling things in any limited over format is chasing a 6.5 rpo or something like that over 50 overs and winning in the last couple of balls. One of my alltime favotites of this category would be the 1986 Australasia cup ( although less than 300) , when Javed Misndad hit a matchwinning 100 and finished the game off the last ball with a six, or the 400 plus chase where SAF beat Aussies at wanderers. T20 should produce a game when a score of 225/240 is chased and won off the last over , and thats when we can say teams have understood batting in this format, because chasing runs is always one of the most exciting things in limited overs format. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mahenga Posted May 2, 2008 Share Posted May 2, 2008 Yes, just like many thought test cricket is going to be murdered when one dayers were introduced in 70s. One dayers only helped test cricket become better. Yesterdays gavaskar was good but todays Sachin is better. He can show his worth in tests as well as in one dayers and tomorrow's whoever will be even better. I quote myself from a similar response on cricinfo. ..Just like Icons of today have established themselves into Test as well as one day cricket, Icons of future will be those who can fit themselves into all three forms....There will always be T20 specialists who can smash their names to stardom but even they will yearn to and work hard to get the approval of traditionlists. Icon of tomorrow will have silken touch of Laxman and brutality of Sehwag. T20 will take us to new dimensions of batting we have not seen so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swami1984 Posted May 2, 2008 Share Posted May 2, 2008 Yesterdays gavaskar was good but todays Sachin is better. Gavaskar is still the best opener in tests India's ever had...plus he faced tougher bowling than the batsmen of today with a bat thats not so good as todays bats, and with pitches conducive to more bounce. I'd say he's as good as Sachin himself in Tests....SG just runs his mouth a lot today, however Of course, nobody is comparable to SRT in ODI's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FistOfFury Posted May 2, 2008 Share Posted May 2, 2008 Mr @mit$ don't worry man, your boy Sehwag will do alright. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feed Posted May 2, 2008 Share Posted May 2, 2008 Brendon McCullum: IPL more than a cash cow New Zealand's Brendon McCullum believes the lure of the Indian Premier League (IPL) is so great that it is inevitable English players will before too long be involved in the Twenty20 tournament. More... Brendon McCullum: IPL more than a cash cow By Steve Wilson and agencies Last Updated: 11:51am BST 02/05/2008 New Zealand's Brendon McCullum believes the lure of the Indian Premier League (IPL) is so great that it is inevitable English players will before too long be involved in the Twenty20 tournament. And for McCullum, who lit up the competition with a record breaking 158 not out in the opening match, it is not simply a matter of finance. Big hitter: McCullum broke the Twenty20 scoring record in the first ever IPL match The appearance fees available to players are so great as to have attracted the cream of the cricketing world - outside England - and it is this intriguing facet of the franchise competition as much and the financial rewards that McCullum believes will drive its long-term health. "I was very nervous going into that first game," said McCullum who, along with captain Daniel Vettori and the tourists' other IPL stragglers were all expected to be present for the four-day warm up match against Essex at Chelmsford this week. "But my contribution throughout the tournament was one I am proud of. "We probably didn't realise how big the tournament and the following was going to be until we arrived over there. "As soon as you arrived, you started to work out it was like something you've never been a part of before. It was huge - and it continued to snowball. "It's not just the money, but the tournament itself - the opportunity to play with some of the greatest players in the world, an opportunity you would never otherwise get; sitting in a dressing room with guys like Ricky Ponting and Sourav Ganguly and working out how they go about the game. You can't buy that experience. "I'm sure we'll all look back on it as a pretty defining moment in terms of international cricket." Debate has raged over the merits of the IPL, with critics arguing it may detract from the core business of international Tests, whilst its advocates point to the interest generated and the prospect of it being used as a vehicle to draw more people to the sport. The English, with the exception of Dimitri Mascarenhas, have been conspicuous by their absence, though McCullum believes that is not a situation the players are likely to be happy to accept in the long-term. "I don't know the ins and outs of it - but I'm sure they'd love to be part of it," he said. "I'm sure they'll be sitting back wishing they were able to be a part of it. "I think if the England guys do get an opportunity, they'll cherish it as much as we have." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mahenga Posted May 2, 2008 Share Posted May 2, 2008 Gavaskar is still the best opener in tests India's ever had...plus he faced tougher bowling than the batsmen of today with a bat thats not so good as todays bats, and with pitches conducive to more bounce. I'd say he's as good as Sachin himself in Tests....SG just runs his mouth a lot today, however Of course, nobody is comparable to SRT in ODI's Swami you are correct in that. As a specialist opener he has few comparisons. I am reffering more to the multidimensional aspect of todays batsmen. T20 will just add another dimension to batting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amits Posted May 2, 2008 Share Posted May 2, 2008 I agree that the boundaries are too short ... but the number of boundaries being hit has more to do with the quality of the batsmen in IPL. Shorter version of the game gives these world class batsmen an opportunity to slog! I also wonder what is next, 5-5 ? ... I also believe that they are playing way too many matches in IPL but I cant complain since Delhi is winning :yay: the no of boundaries has nothing to do with quality of batsman. the same batsmen had played in the 20/20 wc and there 165 was a almost ungettable score. it has got more to do with super-flat pitches, short boundaries & pathetic fielding standars. even players like jaffer r hitting 6s cleanly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amits Posted May 2, 2008 Share Posted May 2, 2008 hehe then dont support delhi amit if u dont like IPL and looks like someone is chickening out jus before the devils are getting ready to be slayed by the kings :P..ipl == entertainment nothing more than that..and a place to find young talent also.. no one is chickeing out. delhi daredevils r going to thrash the chennai super queens today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amits Posted May 2, 2008 Share Posted May 2, 2008 nope dont end IPL' date=' its only good for the globilization of the game. Through IPL cricket will reach new heights. Let 50 over cricket remain and let test remain use IPL as a way to bridge other countries into cricket.[/quote'] if u r saying that the ipl is about globalization, then y hasnt even 1 player from the non-test teams been signed up by any of the ipl teams??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zakhmi Posted May 2, 2008 Share Posted May 2, 2008 Much has been written about teams needing to adapt their batting and bowling strategies to the demands of the new format, but the IPL has shown that another area that needs urgent attention is captaincy, and especially the decision-making at the toss This is the biggest truth that evolved out of this IPL...other thing is the need of existence around when normal players are getting replaced upon not performing. This policy is giving a clear notice " Play to stay " a really good opportunity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rohan495 Posted May 3, 2008 Share Posted May 3, 2008 Bottom Line in the IPL: You win the toss you bat second and you have a good chance of winning Seen it a lot in this tourney Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
straighttalk Posted May 3, 2008 Share Posted May 3, 2008 Seen it a lot in this tourney ya a full column is their in crapinfo about this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jalebi33 Posted May 3, 2008 Share Posted May 3, 2008 This is free market at its best. T20 is the most commercially viable format of the game and it will explode in popularity in the coming years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retterimp Posted May 3, 2008 Share Posted May 3, 2008 it sucks to be a bowling fan and watch the ipl: short boundaries, free hits(is that even cricket??), no reverse swing, pathetic fielding standards....it has totally turned me off i did get a little excited after watching the first match, but now all the games seem similar....kind of like watching lame bollywood movies with same ghisa pita stories but different actors oh well....maybe cricket had this coming, with test cricket supporters dwindling.....i just hope competitive test cricket between the 8 or so current international teams survives throughout my lifetime :( end of my rant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beetle Posted May 4, 2008 Share Posted May 4, 2008 What about the cheer leaders@mit$? How about asking one of them for a date? :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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