Ajit Agarkar,chairman of Selection committee

[singhvivek141]

On 2/8/2024 at 12:30 PM, tweaker said:

 

What is the fuss regarding Kohli rest due to personal reasons and skipping the full.5 tests.Will he just can walk in the playing 11 ,if Patidar or Sarfaraz plays well in the next three test.

That ship has long sailed after Rahane Nair fiasco.

 

When a mediocre batter like Rahane can come back in despite Nair scoring a triple century. What chances Patidar or Sarafarz have against mighty Kohli.

 

 

[putrevus]

8 hours ago, singhvivek141 said:

That ship has long sailed after Rahane Nair fiasco.

 

When a mediocre batter like Rahane can come back in despite Nair scoring a triple century. What chances Patidar or Sarafarz have against mighty Kohli.

 

 

Rahane came back into the side more because he was VC .

 

What would you do if new player does well in place of an injured player.

[singhvivek141]

32 minutes ago, putrevus said:

Rahane came back into the side more because he was VC .

 

What would you do if new player does well in place of an injured player.

What I won't do is ditch the new player permanently, never to be picked again. 

 

It wasn't Nair's fault that Rahane was VC, he did performed and should have been persisted instead. Specially in Indian tests where Rahane was always poor vs spin.

Nair in Asia while Rahane as SENA specialist. VC is not some indisposable post.

[putrevus]

1 hour ago, singhvivek141 said:

What I won't do is ditch the new player permanently, never to be picked again. 

 

It wasn't Nair's fault that Rahane was VC, he did performed and should have been persisted instead. Specially in Indian tests where Rahane was always poor vs spin.

Nair in Asia while Rahane as SENA specialist. VC is not some indisposable post.

I agree, VC is not some indispensible post that Rahane could not be dropped or removed from the squad itself.

 

I am not fan of Rahane either.But I think there is misconception about Nair, that he was not dropped from squad immediately after his triple century , yes he was dropped for first test against Australia but played next three tests in the series.Where he looked overmatched against fast bowlers plus he was not great against spin either.

 

IMO Rahane was not great anywhere, he is worst investment after KL Rahul in Indian cricket.

 

 

 

 

[New guy]

2 hours ago, putrevus said:

 

 

I am not fan of Rahane either.But I think there is misconception about Nair, that he was not dropped from squad immediately after his triple century , yes he was dropped for first test against Australia but played next three tests in the series.Where he looked overmatched against fast bowlers plus he was not great against spin either.

 

 

 

 

Dropping will cause any young player to lose confidence, Pant, Dhoni all looked awful initially, Kohli was a sitting duck in his first English tour.. Lets stop making excuses for pathetic TM who screw over young players instead of helping them.

[putrevus]

27 minutes ago, New guy said:

Dropping will cause any young player to lose confidence, Pant, Dhoni all looked awful initially, Kohli was a sitting duck in his first English tour.. Lets stop making excuses for pathetic TM who screw over young players instead of helping them.

I am not making an excuse for anybody. Nair was rightly dropped in the first test in Australia series for Rahane .KL Rahul who was out injured otherwise Nair would not have made his debut in the first place.

 

Kohli  scored runs in Australia, SA and NZ before he failed in England. Not to mention he was best batsman on the team in 2014.Why would you drop your best batsman after one series failure.

 

Rahane was getting his spot back after injury. Rahane in 2016 was core batsman on the team with healthy avg of nearly 48 and Nair was the sixth batsman.

 

Why would drop your core batsman if he was doing okay.Nair was 6th batsman on the team.

 

 

Pant was dropped even after 2018 Australian series that too for guy like Saha.He has done okay for himself.

 

A guy like VVS was odd man many out on occasions when Indian team then dared to play with 5 batsman.If they kept playing with just 5 batsmen, VVS would not have had the career as he did not have any other skill.

 

 

 

Edited February 12, 2024 by putrevus

[diga]

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Very sad commentary about selection in Indian cricket and story of journeyman cricketer Jalaj Saxena 

Edited October 16, 2025 by diga

[tweaker]

Mohammed Shami on Tuesday took a dig at the national selectors for omitting him from the white-ball tour of Australia, saying that his availability for Bengal in Ranji Trophy proves he is fit and it is not his job to update the panel on this. 

[putrevus]

Why was Shami not selected for Australian tour.He by looks has done better than Akashdeep in Ranji.

 

This idiot Agarkar, what has he got against Shami.

[Manucrick]

10 minutes ago, putrevus said:

Why was Shami not selected for Australian tour.He by looks has done better than Akashdeep in Ranji.

 

This idiot Agarkar, what has he got against Shami.

They did the same to umesh and ishant

[Ultimate_Game]

Posted this on another thread regarding Agarkar and his selection committee and posting it here again as this thread is more appropriate...

 

Agarkar has continually taken the easy way out while making selections. He didn't drop Rohit and Kohli despite being white-washed at home by NZ at home. He has been taking the coward's way out with Iyer's selection (or non-selection) as well. Same thing with Jaiswal as it's easy to go with popular decision instead of making a harder call of backing a more deserving Jaiswal.

 

Agarkar has shown himself to lean whichever way the popular decision is so he doesn't get any push back. He's unlikely to make any tough decision. He always takes the easy and most popular way out. He has yet to make even one single hard call or back a player unless it's an obvious selection. Quite disappointed overall as you would expect a decent selector to phase out Kohli and Rohit by now, and also make sure Jaiswal and to a lesser extent Sai are part of the setup in shorter formats. Even Iyer in ODIS was a forced selection as Kohli was injured in the series before CT and Iyer performed so well he became undroppable. Overall, quite disappointed in Agarkar.

 

[tweaker]

Jaiswal, Sarfaraz are not considered and what basis are Rana,Sai selected in the squad. 

 

Players are selected in test squad on the basis of IPL. 

 

Eashwaran has been treated very badly .

 

There has been no planning in the selection of Paddikal over Eashwaran and Sarfaraz. 

 

There has been no planning  in selection of fast bowler to are place Shami and Bumrah. 

 

Lots of matches has been.wasted on Mukesh Kumar, Avesh Khan 

[tapandrun]

36 minutes ago, tweaker said:

Jaiswal, Sarfaraz are not considered and what basis are Rana,Sai selected in the squad. 

 

Players are selected in test squad on the basis of IPL. 

 

Eashwaran has been treated very badly .

 

There has been no planning in the selection of Paddikal over Eashwaran and Sarfaraz. 

 

There has been no planning  in selection of fast bowler to are place Shami and Bumrah. 

 

Lots of matches has been.wasted on Mukesh Kumar, Avesh Khan 

Think Rana's inclusion is okay. Ind fast bowling resources have declined in last 4-5 years and no efforts were made by Rohit and Dravid to bring any high potential fast bowlers and wasted a lot of time on LA/RA nothing kind of bowlers who could/would never graduate to next level.

 

Rana has potentials and ingredients , nt sure why sm is after him its not like he is stopping a place of some vtalent/high potential bowler, think its just that they can not troll kl so they moved to rana and also looks like they are using it pressure point on gambhir.

 

Sai's inclusion in test is based ipl performance which is a bad move, he has fc avg of just 40. think this is v.ordinary to Ind domestic avgs for top order batter.

 

eshwaran, sanju, sarfarz,shami and few other have not been treated that well. 

[deathmonger]

Just now, tapandrun said:

Think Rana's inclusion is okay. Ind fast bowling resources have declined in last 4-5 years and no efforts were made by Rohit and Dravid to bring any high potential fast bowlers and wasted a lot of time on LA/RA nothing kind of bowlers who could/would never graduate to next level.

 

Rana has potentials and ingredients , nt sure why sm is after him its not like he is stopping a place of some vtalent/high potential bowler, think its just that they can not troll kl so they moved to rana and also looks like they are using it pressure point on gambhir.

 

Sai's inclusion in test is based ipl performance which is a bad move, he has fc avg of just 40. think this is v.ordinary to Ind domestic avgs for top order batter.

 

eshwaran, sanju, sarfarz,shami and few other have not been treated that well. 

Yeah, Rana has good ingredients. Pace, height etc and has had a few good performances in all three formats in his short career (T20 - England T20s, ODI - CT, Tests - Perth). Also young.

 

If he develops well can give 6-8 good years.

[Sooda]

1 hour ago, tweaker said:

Jaiswal, Sarfaraz are not considered and what basis are Rana,Sai selected in the squad. 

 

Players are selected in test squad on the basis of IPL. 

 

Eashwaran has been treated very badly .

 

There has been no planning in the selection of Paddikal over Eashwaran and Sarfaraz. 

 

There has been no planning  in selection of fast bowler to are place Shami and Bumrah. 

 

Lots of matches has been.wasted on Mukesh Kumar, Avesh Khan 

 

Bhai I think some or even alot of this is unfair...

 

Sai has a poor FC record but has actually done better than Easwaran in every India A outing they both have had together, including Vs lions last year at home and Aus away. He's done more than enough for now to be given a run at 3. Credit to selectors for looking past stats and records and going with gut to an extent 

 

Easwaran has been unlucky to an extent but it has also been his own fault for not fully convincing when playing Vs the best teams 

 

Paddikal has versatility, he has opened for state but I guess for now is in as a middle order bat. He has come in on the back of good domestic performances. Sarfaraz would have been in the last home squad if not for injury. I think it was unfair on Sarfaraz not being tried in the flat pitches in England. But can see why Nair got a go instead given county experience 

 

Yes third pacemen is an issue, Bumrah didn't need to play both tests Vs WI , could have played PK

 

Rana has the right attributes and attitude and done okay at domestic level, and can bat a bit. Can see the reasoning behind his pick 

 

Yudhvir and Gurnoor have emerged lately and tbf to the board are getting A team experience. But until a few years ago, let's face it Avesh and Mukesh were the best of fringe bowlers... The likes of Kuldeep Sen, Umran Malik and K Tyagi were fast tracked based on their attributes but have proved too injury prone unfortunately 

 

Edited October 19, 2025 by Sooda

[Ultimate_Game]

9 hours ago, tweaker said:

Jaiswal, Sarfaraz are not considered and what basis are Rana,Sai selected in the squad. 

 

Players are selected in test squad on the basis of IPL. 

 

Eashwaran has been treated very badly .

 

There has been no planning in the selection of Paddikal over Eashwaran and Sarfaraz. 

 

There has been no planning  in selection of fast bowler to are place Shami and Bumrah. 

 

Lots of matches has been.wasted on Mukesh Kumar, Avesh Khan 

 

8 hours ago, tapandrun said:

Think Rana's inclusion is okay. Ind fast bowling resources have declined in last 4-5 years and no efforts were made by Rohit and Dravid to bring any high potential fast bowlers and wasted a lot of time on LA/RA nothing kind of bowlers who could/would never graduate to next level.

 

Rana has potentials and ingredients , nt sure why sm is after him its not like he is stopping a place of some vtalent/high potential bowler, think its just that they can not troll kl so they moved to rana and also looks like they are using it pressure point on gambhir.

 

Sai's inclusion in test is based ipl performance which is a bad move, he has fc avg of just 40. think this is v.ordinary to Ind domestic avgs for top order batter.

 

eshwaran, sanju, sarfarz,shami and few other have not been treated that well. 

 

Our selectors can't differentiate between formats and Agarkar is no different. Sai is a good LOI batter but in Tests there're others who're ahead of him. I would prefer someone like Rinku in Tests with a FC average of 57 but looks like Rinku will go the same way as Jaiswal - ignored when he's so much better than others but doesn't play for the "right" IPL team.

[ungboysj]

23 hours ago, Ultimate_Game said:

Posted this on another thread regarding Agarkar and his selection committee and posting it here again as this thread is more appropriate...

 

Agarkar has continually taken the easy way out while making selections. He didn't drop Rohit and Kohli despite being white-washed at home by NZ at home. He has been taking the coward's way out with Iyer's selection (or non-selection) as well. Same thing with Jaiswal as it's easy to go with popular decision instead of making a harder call of backing a more deserving Jaiswal.

 

Agarkar has shown himself to lean whichever way the popular decision is so he doesn't get any push back. He's unlikely to make any tough decision. He always takes the easy and most popular way out. He has yet to make even one single hard call or back a player unless it's an obvious selection. Quite disappointed overall as you would expect a decent selector to phase out Kohli and Rohit by now, and also make sure Jaiswal and to a lesser extent Sai are part of the setup in shorter formats. Even Iyer in ODIS was a forced selection as Kohli was injured in the series before CT and Iyer performed so well he became undroppable. Overall, quite disappointed in Agarkar.

 

He did drop or retire roko from tests

 

Further one good thing he has done is backed many under 25 players with immense talent

 

Jaiswal

Gill

Sundar

Sai

Abhishek

 

And some not so talented

 

Reddy

Harshit

 

He has backed youth that no one can deny

[Ultimate_Game]

5 minutes ago, ungboysj said:

He did drop or retire roko from tests

 

Further one good thing he has done is backed many under 25 players with immense talent

 

Jaiswal

Gill

Sundar

Sai

Abhishek

 

And some not so talented

 

Reddy

Harshit

 

He has backed youth that no one can deny

 

He was forced to retire RoKo after India was white washed at home by an average Kiwi team and then were the reasons India lost to Aus for the first time in a decade. There was no way they should've been in the team after the NZ series at home but it was likes of Sarfaraz who got the axe despite scoring a 150 in one of the matches.

[tapandrun]

10 minutes ago, Ultimate_Game said:

 

 

Our selectors can't differentiate between formats and Agarkar is no different. Sai is a good LOI batter but in Tests there're others who're ahead of him. I would prefer someone like Rinku in Tests with a FC average of 57 but looks like Rinku will go the same way as Jaiswal - ignored when he's so much better than others but doesn't play for the "right" IPL team.

Not so sure if sai is good fr modern day white-ball cricket, bt he has no domestic record to be #3 in test side without being tested in Odis. How many other batters specially non-openers got their chances in Ind test sides without playing or proving themselves in white-ball cricket in last 2 decades.

 

Been mentioning this  Selectors are just trying to spread-out players and giving them chances without any plan.

 

 

 

 

[Ultimate_Game]

Just now, tapandrun said:

Not so sure if sai is good fr modern day white-ball cricket, bt he has no domestic record to be #3 in test side without being tested in Odis. How many other batters specially non-openers got their chances in Ind test sides without playing or proving themselves in white-ball cricket in last 2 decades.

 

Been mentioning this  Selectors are just trying to spread-out players and giving them chances without any plan.

 

 

 

 

 

For ODIs he's a great no. 3. Can bat with a SR of around 90 and average in 50s. For T20s I would still go with him over Gill though ideally we get in Jaiswal to replace Gill. In ODIs we need top order players who can bat for long and Sai is the prefect batter. Plus he's a leftie which is always an advantage over the current RHB we've at the top.