Zap_Brannigan Posted August 19, 2008 Posted August 19, 2008 Why don't gay people just get themselves sex changes ? You are a brown man wanting to live in a Caucasian land. There are a lot of Caucasians who hate your skin color and religion. Maybe you shd get plastic surgery to turn yourself "White".
Aditi Posted August 19, 2008 Posted August 19, 2008 Even if you don't agree with that point, surely you would be concerned by the high percentage of AIDS victims within the homosexual community ? Allright, then what about the AIDS situation in the country of your birth? That should be a huge concern too.
fineleg Posted August 19, 2008 Posted August 19, 2008 So lesbians are okay' date=' but gay men are not?[/quote'] You see - its entertainment for him. So, its ok. Can't get more skewed than this.
Aditi Posted August 19, 2008 Posted August 19, 2008 And besides, how many gays pursue monogamous relationships anyway ? I know plenty of couples that do, and there are plenty more get married every day.
punjabi_khota Posted August 19, 2008 Posted August 19, 2008 You see - its entertainment for him. So, its ok. Can't get more skewed than this. you have any idea how hot lesbo pron is to most (straight) men. :giggle: Here is some help..watch from 2:36 and beyond XAMtd4Wf9gI
Predator_05 Posted August 19, 2008 Posted August 19, 2008 So lesbians are okay' date=' but gay men are not?[/quote'] Homosexuality in general isn't OK. Lesbians may not be AIDS ridden in the same way that gay men are but they still shouldn't be entitled to equal rights such as the right to bear children, right to marry, etc. They don't have stable, long-lasting relationships because their homosexual lifestyle prohibits them from living that way, the kids they raise are likely to turn out gay and to suffer from the same health problems. It's like opening a can of worms by creating a whole other generation of disease ridden humans who will do nothing but contaminate society. The American College of Pediatricians describes these implications reasonably well; http://www.acpeds.org/?CONTEXT=art&cat=22&art=50 You can read through it and also look through the titles cited from various studies to educate yourself a bit more I know plenty of couples that do' date=' and there are plenty more get married every day.[/quote'] Good for you. Can you tell me how long these marriages last ? Does the percentage compare favorably with the 10+ years that 66% of ALL first marriages in the United States (source - National Center for Health Statistics) do ? I know the answer to this question BTW, but first i'd like to know what your general perception concerning the length of homosexual marriages Have you asked a gay person that lately? No, surprisingly enough, i haven't. Why don't you go ahead and ask someone on my behalf. :haha: Allright' date=' then what about the AIDS situation in the country of your birth? That should be a huge concern too.[/quote'] Open promotion of gay lifestyles through gay pride parades don't do much to help the situation. You're right - India does have a problem with AIDS, but i'm pretty sure that creating another generation of gays probably won't be on the list of proposed solutions.
cowboysfan Posted August 19, 2008 Posted August 19, 2008 I know plenty of couples that do' date=' and there are plenty more get married every day.[/quote'] aditi-what are you trying to do here?.do you think if you are rational and enlightened than you will change a mind of a bigot?.I wouldn't waste my time with that.hopefully he likes cricket and we can discuss that.
Aditi Posted August 19, 2008 Posted August 19, 2008 You can read through it and also look through the titles cited from various studies to educate yourself a bit more :haha::haha::haha::haha: Nice try. For every article like those, there are articles to counter it: http://www.apa.org/pi/lgbc/publications/lgplgparents.html
Aditi Posted August 19, 2008 Posted August 19, 2008 aditi-what are you trying to do here?.do you think if you are rational and enlightened than you will change a mind of a bigot?.I wouldn't waste my time with that.hopefully he likes cricket and we can discuss that. Yeah I'm not fond of dragging myself down to that level. Waste of time and energy.
Aditi Posted August 19, 2008 Posted August 19, 2008 Can you tell me how long these marriages last ? Marriage among gays and lesbians became legal in the US only in 2004, FYI.
punjabi_khota Posted August 19, 2008 Posted August 19, 2008 While I do believe in the policy of live and let live, and hence do not oppose homosexuality per se, I am not entirely sure of the effects the open culture of homosexuals and them being able to raise children, is gonna have on future generations. Right now, it is all a matter of speculation, and we will have to wait and see. Also, I am pretty sure a lot of people, who although in full support of homosexuals and their rights in public, will freak out/ get shocked if one of their loved ones/children turn out to be homo.
Aditi Posted August 19, 2008 Posted August 19, 2008 While I do believe in the policy of live and let live, and hence do not oppose homosexuality per se, I am not entirely sure of the effects the open culture of homosexuals and them being able to raise children, is gonna have on future generations. Right now, it is all a matter of speculation, and we will have to wait and see. There is not a whole lot of research done on the subject, so yeah it is a wait and watch game as it is becoming more common. This whole issue is a controversial topic that can go on and on.
Zap_Brannigan Posted August 19, 2008 Posted August 19, 2008 While I do believe in the policy of live and let live' date=' and hence do not oppose homosexuality per se, I am not entirely sure of the effects the open culture of homosexuals and [b']them being able to raise children, is gonna have on future generations. Right now, it is all a matter of speculation, and we will have to wait and see. Shouldn't we trample the rights of stupid people to give birth to and raise children first. Then there are alcoholics, abusers, druggies etc... How is britney spears and k fed more qualified to raise children than Ellen degeneras and Portia De Rossi?
punjabi_khota Posted August 19, 2008 Posted August 19, 2008 Shouldn't we trample the rights of stupid people to give birth to and raise children first. Then there are alcoholics' date=' abusers, druggies etc... How is britney spears and k fed more qualified to raise children than Ellen degeneras and Portia De Rossi?[/quote'] Thats why you have child services offices, and if the people you mention weren't filthy rich/influential, their kids will probably be taken away from them and put under state care.
Zap_Brannigan Posted August 19, 2008 Posted August 19, 2008 Thats why you have child services offices' date=' and if the people you mention weren't filthy rich/influential, their kids will probably be taken away from them and put under state care.[/quote'] Unfortunately, it doesn't work like that. There are thousands of kids who are being abused. Many more who are being taught stupid/idiotic/illogical ideas,belief, hatred towards others etc..... Any child would prefer 2 mothers or 2 fathers over an abusive mother and an alcoholic father.
punjabi_khota Posted August 19, 2008 Posted August 19, 2008 Unfortunately' date=' it doesn't work like that. There are thousands of kids who are being abused. Many more who are being taught stupid/idiotic/illogical ideas,belief, hatred towards others etc..... Any child would prefer 2 mothers or 2 fathers over an abusive mother and an alcoholic father.[/quote'] At least the society knows the ills of having alcoholic/abusive parents. We don't know that about gays yet.
Zap_Brannigan Posted August 19, 2008 Posted August 19, 2008 At least the society knows the ills of having alcoholic/abusive parents. We don't know that about gays yet. Do we know the ills of having negligent parents? or parents who expect too much? Wht abt the kids who were involved in the school shootings? Did they have gay parents or hetero parents ? Wht the sucide bombers? Wht abt the SIMI motherfkers ? I can bet that most of these aholes had hetero parents....
THX_1138 Posted August 19, 2008 Posted August 19, 2008 aditi-what are you trying to do here?.do you think if you are rational and enlightened than you will change a mind of a bigot?.I wouldn't waste my time with that.hopefully he likes cricket and we can discuss that. yeah... all efforts are in vain here, one might as well paint the banner green and call it pp.net... gave on trying to argue with our mullahs quite some time back on this issue.
sandtest Posted August 19, 2008 Posted August 19, 2008 Your level of ignorance and intolerance is both amusing and saddening at the same time. How much sexual experience do you have ? How much do you know about your friends' sexual tastes, preferences and habits ? Oh thats right - you come from the desi school of 'sex is taboo, lets not talk about it amongst friends or anyone, its so shameful to talk about'blahblahblah that is essentially the product of islamism - for our ancestors were once just like the west today in their sexual practices, even more. First of all, as told HUNDRED times before, learn to post a sentence without using "I" or "You". There was no mention of these before, Don't make it personal matter, OK? Must understand the civility in discourse, if at all it means anything to frustrated retards roaming on internet. And i can tell you have not read the Kama sutra to be getting so sanctimonious about it - FYI, your 'pacifistic and loving nature of showing the way to the lesser mortals goobledegook' kama-sutra also has a chapter on how to seduce others' spouses. And that has nothing to do with Gayism, Beastiality, Paedophilia and similiar fanatsies/ fetishes, hence understand the context before typing your irrelevant chest thumping knowledge, there are many others here who know about Indic literatures but don't beat-around-the bush like you, simply because of lack of relevance in topic. Fact is, you have very little understanding of sexuality and sex to be commenting on this issue and neither are you aware of how our species behaves and interacts sexually for the bulk majority. I understand your culture and mindset has a long way to progress in this regard but you must realize something : Another YOU know nothing, I am the ocean of all wisdom bravado.....Chest thump one more time and you are back on ignore. As far as sex goes, you *MUST* follow the golden rule ( which ironically, comes from kama-shastra, something i BET you know naught about): There is no book, practice named Kama-Shastra...there is a difference between terminologies "Sutra" and "Shastra" in Sanskrit -- obviously for a man with *proven*lack of understanding of Sanskrit it's all same onleee 1. Person must be over the age of majority 2. It must be consentual. Nonsense....There is more to it proved by mother nature, than just plain black and white, binary logic of two sentence lame convenient justification like above Your 'great civilization of ancient bharat' was far more like the west than you can imagine. Your great book of kama sutra has a chapter on how to seduce other's wives & husbands - so much for 'sacredness' and not inflicting harm, etc. boolsheet. very simplistic arguement. Proves my point of your obssession with anything "west". There was no concept of "west" during that time, yet you can't make a clear judgement without diverting your mind to a "west" comparison example. inflicting injury ? what is injury ? if you think giving a hickey is an injury (and the receiver consents) then you've completely lost it, as to the VAST majority of people, hickeys are alluring and extremely erotic to receive as well as give. Know this simple fact -- The degree of injury will definately vary from person to person depending upon their lust for pleasure and mental condition. One can be less masochist-sadist but that doesnot mean rule can be applied to all. There are many who will come out asking that ohhh both of us partners are in agrrement with each other -- consenting blaah blaah therefore let's allow us to inflict serious injury and satisfy our perverted mind. What about gentle biting of the lips ? is that injury too ? who or what determines injury ? If you are comfortable doing it and he/she is comfortable receiveing it and you two are both adults or both minors fooling around (i'll look the other way if its right at the cusp of majority and not much age diff - say 21 yr old and 17 yr old), then ANYTHING goes- to say otherwise is to be unnecessarily judgemental and imposing of your individual (and from the looks of it, rather stunted and bland) idea of sex. First of all don't be so graphic while describing your "great" pseudo-knaaawlidge of sexual matters. Most of the folks discussing here are married and know more than juvenile chest thumping kids like you. Try to talk in civility and you will learn more. masochism can vary from person to person. There are many perverted minds who might try to inflict serious injury upon their partner (male or female) to satisfy their urge for distorted pleasure.
sandtest Posted August 19, 2008 Posted August 19, 2008 Main Point is, this is not the matter of religiosity, persons beleif in Judaism, Christo-islam, Budhism, Hinduism, Taoism, Confuscianaism, Athieism or any "ism" known unknown. It is a matter of going against mother nature. I am surprised at the hypocricy of Hyper-Liberals. At point they will turn 400% environmentalist and cry foul about going against nature, for example evil Human are destroying nature, global warming, space getting polluted by human space programme, humans utilizing natural resources more than other animals, therfore human is evil blaah blaah blaah. And at the same time same very hyper-liberals by supporting un-natural practices like Gayism, beatiality-zoophilia etc. are going EXACTLY against what mother nature has made. Hypocricy at it's best!!
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