CC1981 Posted October 10, 2008 Posted October 10, 2008 Domaink: The Maharashtra government is all set to change the legal definition of wife. Now a live in girl friend will be considered a wife. That effectively makes a live-in equal to a marriage(for the woman). I find this ridiculous beyond imagination. Live in happens where a couple does not want to get married. How can you forcibly make them husband and wife? So it becomes a marriage where a divorce is not needed to break out. I disagree completely. In Canada, there is what is known as 'common law husband/wives', which is essentially girlfriend-boyfriend living together ( I think it comes into effect 9 months/1 year after you two are living together). This is not about focing something on couples who do not want to get married - This is about legal rights issues- when you live in a place, you develop emotional/sentimental attachments to objects in the place and when breakup happens, issue becomes splitting of stuff- she may've been mooching off of you for a while (or vice versa) for which one might feel the need to be 'compensated' - i don't think its unfair if you've been mooching off of her for a while in the past, now you two are breaking up and she wants your dinner set that she clearly likes. That kind of thing is what this kind of law addresses. if you guys do not want to get married, then just enjoy any potential tax benifit ( families pay less tax here than individuals, i dunno if true in India or not) and go your mutual seperate ways when/if it doesnt work out. If one of you explicitly doesnt want to share stuff, then fine- go to a lawyer, make a will for your belongings and all it'd take is 2-3 trips to the law office if you care THAT much. This law is especially good for people like me- who don't give a toss about the institution of marriage ( it is just an empty ceremony and a piece of paper- that is all marriage is) but we still want to be recognised in the loving relationship between us and our girlfriend/boyfriends. I think that marriage is a big pompous display that is a waste of money - i dont feel too strongly about it ( ie, if my girl really wanted to get married, i'd happily play along, but if it were completely up to me, i'd not get married unless i needed a tax break/was gonna live overseas and thus needed visa for my spouse). Marriage is not love, marriage is not understanding, marriage is not companionship- it is just a ceremony and a piece of paper. Then why should me and my girl have to put up with that pompous,expensive ceremony to have legal rights as a couple ? If i love her and she loves me, then we are as good as married- whether we live under the same roof or not. For the essential ingredients to intimacy is love, understanding, compassion, lust, fun, the bitter and the sweet....a piece of paper and a ceremony arnt essential and therefore, the law should reflect that. This law is excellent, progressive and a step in the right direction. Beetle: This is the work of the stupid Women rights group.This will make polygamy like situation legal.The man can move in with another woman ,have kids without the fear of polygamy law being enforced. The other woman is happy because she gets all benifits . The poor legal wife and her kids are the only losers. I do not know how valid your concern is, but if that is true, then your society needs more work in its individualism and sexual liberation - for there is something very wrong in a society where an aggressive polygamy law has to be enforced inorder to keep their men/women faithful to their partners. We don't have such laws here ( if a dood leaves his wife, goes and starts living with another woman and has kids with her, he wont be prosecuted here- he just has to pay HIS wife alimony/get divorce/keep paying for the kids, etc) and our society isnt falling apart with rampant cheating and lack of faithfulness during a relationship. Sure, it makes the dude (or if its a dudette) a douchebag...but to make it criminal is insane. This shouldnt have to be legislated- this should be basic common sense, decency and something that parents should teach their kids as a matter of conduct. Yes, you will have a few rotten apples, but they are always there in every field. Domaink: As far as I know, no country considers live-in as the same as marriage. Live-ins are most wide spread in US than anywhere else. Even they dont recognize a live-in as a special status. Its just married or unmarried. You are incorrect. 1. Canada recognises live-ins as the same as marriage ( atleast, as far as legal rights of both partners go) but because live-in is a natural process and not a pompous declaration of faith (like marriage), the law kicks in only 9 month to a year after the couple has moved in. But after that, the rights/legal implication of live ins are the exact same as marriage. 2. USA has nowhere the amount of live-ins as Canada or many other western nations ( as a percentage of their population- US still has a huge redneck religious population). It is far more widespread in Canada, France, Holland, hell, even UK probably and i am sure the list isnt complete. Tapioca: How does the law define a live-in ? When does one become an official live-in ? After living with the other person for a month ? A year ? It varies from country to country, but typically it is 9 months to a year after you two have moved in. Obviously, this number is derived from common sense and not some hard-bound codice- the timeframe in concern is simply a consensus on how long a couple must be living with each other for it to be considered a serious relationship, given that some people are too trigger happy to move in with someone they've known for barely a few months - our society figures that if its been 9 months/1 year, then obviously you two are serious about living together and its working out for now - so if it doesnt in the future, both sides deserve full legal rights. Then if one stops staying with them, will the relationship automatically expire ? If they stop staying for an extended period of time ( 3 months to 6 months here), then yes. It obviously wouldnt expire if you two just had a fight and you decieded to stay at your buddy's place for a week to 'cool it' and then work things out. Can one stay with separate partners every day of the month and consider them all their husbands/wives ? No, coz that would be polygamy and if polygamy is illegal in that nation, then it'd be illegal ( i personally don't care about polygamy btw). Flamy: What if u have female roomies? Roomies are quite different from live-ins. I used to have female roomies before and it wasnt an issue- simply because if you are a roommate, then chances are some or most of your friends ( as well as hers) know you two as roomies and a simple testimonial will nullify any attempts at trying to twist it as a common-law situation. This means, if you are in a house with 4 bedrooms and say 1 girl and 3 guys- if you and the girl are shagging, you guys are still roomies and not in common law, because your domicile is clearly a roommate situation.
Rajiv Posted October 10, 2008 Posted October 10, 2008 Yup, you can also sponsor a common -law for immigration
Holysmoke Posted October 10, 2008 Posted October 10, 2008 No' date=' I dont think so. I have seen some very recent episodes of judge judy and she has made it clear again and again [/quote'] :haha::haha::haha::haha:
Captain of Bhangra Posted October 22, 2008 Posted October 22, 2008 This would be retarded even by the standards of British Law. I'm shocked to see this being done in India. Actually, no, I'm not. Over the past 3 years I've come to realise India isn't as squeaky clean as my parents raised/brain-washed me to believe. A lot of slags there to be fair...
beetle Posted October 23, 2008 Posted October 23, 2008 Retarded Maharastra govt has finally taken it back but sent it to the child and women ministry ....
CC1981 Posted October 24, 2008 Posted October 24, 2008 This would be retarded even by the standards of British Law. I'm shocked to see this being done in India. Actually' date=' no, I'm not. Over the past 3 years I've come to realise India isn't as squeaky clean as my parents raised/brain-washed me to believe. A lot of slags there to be fair...[/quote'] Why/what is retarded about it ? This law is progressive and much-needed to further civilize India.
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