punjabi_khota Posted January 5, 2009 Posted January 5, 2009 Some more gems from the same site: We are 1.5 Billion strong, we were a superpower of the world a few centuries ago. But unlike other empires we are still here and still growing and our time will come again, future generations of muslims, generations who deserve the name Muslim will avenge the pain our Ummah is being put through. the kaffir, jews, hindu's they will learn why you dont **** around with us and get away with it, even in our weakened state we will fight back, when we get our strength back we will march across your nations and faces, they will regret what they are doing at the moment... If they can legitimise the deaths of our people then we can do the same to them.. Muslims regardless of where they are will not simply be subdued, a muslim should never accept oppression which has been forced upon him. In the past when empires fell they became historical foot notes, the muslim ummah is growing, there are more muslims today then yesterday and there will be more muslim tomorrow then today. We may not have the power we had a few centuries ago but we are alive and kicking, our enemies whether they be the jews or hindus can laud it over us today but they should be warned and they should be worried because as soon as muslims wake up and get some of there power back we will avenge the crimes which have been forced upon us today. you,ve been watching too much of that biased channel of yours star news, 1st your own home grown hindu terrorists massacred innocent civilians and the whole world condemned it blaming pakistan, and now innocent palestinians are being massacred nothing apart from the usual ******** is being said the jewish are defending themselves from rockets being fired at them, open your eyes PAL :hysterical::hysterical::hysterical::hysterical::hysterical::hysterical: Somebody should tell them that their Muslim brothers are the biggest killers of Muslims in the world. Also, that their Arab brothers, including Palestinians consider Pakistanis to be second grade Muslims. And also that they are not the descendants of Ghazni or Gauri, but some Bhindians.
MundaPakistani Posted January 5, 2009 Posted January 5, 2009 Quit being so sensitive' date=' willya ! Probably feeling guilty !:winky:[/quote'] so....more snide comments.... I am merely asking(this will be the last time) for evidence for the direct accusation yet you aren't willing to provide it publicly OR privately. Bump, So in general do you think the reaction to these atrocities on ICF would have been different if "Mumbai" never happened? Are the celebrations on ICF mainly due to the fact that Muslims are being killed?
punjabi_khota Posted January 5, 2009 Posted January 5, 2009 so....more snide comments.... I am merely asking(this will be the last time) for evidence for the direct accusation yet you aren't willing to provide it publicly OR privately. Bump, So in general do you think the reaction to these atrocities on ICF would have been different if "Mumbai" never happened? Are the celebrations on ICF mainly due to the fact that Muslims are being killed? hahahaaha...AFAIK 50 muslims died in Mumbai attacks. Remember that sir ? J
kumble_rocks Posted January 5, 2009 Posted January 5, 2009 MP has clearly lost the plot .. Why is it that these Pakistanis keep asking for evidence !:winky: For the last time, MP , just browse PP and you will get the drift. Even the pictures you posted here are from PP. And like I said before , nothing wrong with cut and paste. Saves time in my opinion. No need for you to get so touchy ...
Desi Cartman Posted January 6, 2009 Posted January 6, 2009 My 2 cents firstly , I didnt see Indians celebrating the war. We merely stated that Israel has the right to hit Palestine since they were attacked first. secondly, as far as Indians are concerned we dont care what happens to Muslims in Korea or what happens to Hindus in Bahamas. I find it funny that how it becomes "us , we , brothers" for pakis when some Muslim is slapped by a jew in France. For god's sake stop being so obsessed with all this .. stop worrying about Kashmir , Palestine , France , US , china , Malaysia , Indonesia etc etc and work on what you have.
MundaPakistani Posted January 6, 2009 Posted January 6, 2009 MP has clearly lost the plot .. Why is it that these Pakistanis keep asking for evidence !:winky: For the last time' date=' MP , just browse PP and you will get the drift. Even the pictures you posted here are from PP. And like I said before , nothing wrong with cut and paste. Saves time in my opinion. No need for you to get so touchy ...[/quote'] you are asking ME to browse PP when YOU are the one making the accusation...added with some more snide comments about me being a Pakistani Thought you were one of the better posters out here so its slightly disappointing to see you come up with bold faced lies and tried to use your lies as a rebuttal to my post. The reason why i PMed you is because i obviously knew that i was right and didn't want to embarrass you on a public forum because as i said before you were(and still are) one of the better ones. hahahaaha...AFAIK 50 muslims died in Mumbai attacks. Remember that sir ? J AFAIK this forum is filled with numerous racists who have said some of the most disgusting things possible about Muslims (both PRE and POST Mumbai).
MundaPakistani Posted January 6, 2009 Posted January 6, 2009 My 2 cents firstly , I didnt see Indians celebrating the war. We merely stated that Israel has the right to hit Palestine since they were attacked first. secondly, as far as Indians are concerned we dont care what happens to Muslims in Korea or what happens to Hindus in Bahamas. I find it funny that how it becomes "us , we , brothers" for pakis when some Muslim is slapped by a jew in France. For god's sake stop being so obsessed with all this .. stop worrying about Kashmir , Palestine , France , US , china , Malaysia , Indonesia etc etc and work on what you have. 1- Reread the thread. 2- I partially agree with you. Ideally your personal religion shouldn't be a factor while looking at a political situation how ever its selfish to NOT care about the injustice and brutal deaths of innocent civilians ANY WHERE in the world be it Kashmir, Palestine, US , Burma, Iraq etc.
punjabi_khota Posted January 6, 2009 Posted January 6, 2009 AFAIK this forum is filled with numerous racists who have said some of the most disgusting things possible about Muslims (both PRE and POST Mumbai). Disgusting does not necessarily equals false. The gist of those "disgusting things " was that your few bad apples theory is wrong. And that obviously hurts you no doubt. It would hurt me if I was a Muslim. But that is the fact.
Macj Posted January 6, 2009 Posted January 6, 2009 Kahan bhi jao modus operandi ek hi. Yoh Munda stay and post this ****** in PP, yahaan pe 'Ouse Full.
Bumper Posted January 6, 2009 Posted January 6, 2009 AFAIK this forum is filled with numerous racists who have said some of the most disgusting things possible about Muslims (both PRE and POST Mumbai). TBH, I dont see how you can claim any moral high ground calling people racists. Racists they may be, but hypocrities you guys are. 1) When Mumbai probe was going on, even when blatant evidence was emerging every day, many of you (that includes you) were conveniently dismissing the whole issue as "blame game" indulged by India -- never mind the numerous terrorist orgs that were alive & operating in Pakistan and there was ample truth in the accusations, never mind the brutal killings on innocent civilians or the death toll. And like Palestinians, these civilians did not elect a terrorist org by a democratic process, nor did they fire rockets into Pakistan, to invite the trouble. Where was the humanitarian in you, calling for justice to the innocent Mumbai victims ? 2) Suppose Palestinians are not Muslims would Pakistan even care about these people ? Heck even within Muslims, you guys dont care about so many killings that go on in your own country or about the Darfur situation that KR pointed out. Suffice to say, you guys have no moral right to point out any fallacies in others' stand. The day you guys start valuing all civilians equally, come back & preach us. The only Pak poster that I have found reasonable on these issues is Kablooee. I am likely to take him a lot more seriously than the rest of you.
Guest dada_rocks Posted January 6, 2009 Posted January 6, 2009 Was watching the docmeunatry zillinth time man we can;t visit the place which was sheet of our civilization harappa and mohenjodero .. pakis feel ashamed of its existance so ti remains neglected after all they have to weave the fction that pakistan was always present hence harappa mhenjoedero etc statd as an eyesore.......... yes today that is muslim land.. these mofos have one way street they wil occupy some place with sowrd and then on noone is supposed to reverse the clock since it becomes muslim land.. this is the real reason of israel conflict these mofos still rue about spain as if it were there land still dream about once again subjugating rest of the india..
Kriterion Posted January 6, 2009 Posted January 6, 2009 http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/meast/01/05/gaza.children/index.html and the cycle goes on...
Guest dada_rocks Posted January 6, 2009 Posted January 6, 2009 http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/meast/01/05/gaza.children/index.html and the cycle goes on... so what is the soln beacause violence may spawn more violence hence hamas should be allowed to launch rocket wherever they want??
sandtest Posted January 6, 2009 Posted January 6, 2009 Was watching the docmeunatry zillinth time man we can;t visit the place which was sheet of our civilization harappa and mohenjodero .. pakis feel ashamed of its existance so ti remains neglected after all they have to weave the fction that pakistan was always present hence harappa mhenjoedero etc statd as an eyesore.......... That is because everything prior to 7th century is Jahilia:giggle:....invaders came, looted, plundered, raped. But according to Paki logic they uplifted them from Jahilia. They are community who hail Ghaznavi and Ghoris as heroic historical figures. Kufr symbols like Mohenjodaro, Harappa, Bamiyan Buddha have no place when you are getting a bigger deal -- heaven. Acording to Pakis India still lives in Jahilia with Hindus worshipping in a dark narrow corner, indulging in idolatry. Hence killing of Indians like those in Mumbai is relieving them from Jahilia. What to do, Pakis are doing all good onlee. Recall, the Mumbai terrorist asking the name and caste of Indians :giggle:
Kriterion Posted January 6, 2009 Posted January 6, 2009 so what is the soln beacause violence may spawn more violence hence hamas should be allowed to launch rocket wherever they want?? if had a solution, i'd be $1.3 million richer come october.
fineleg Posted January 6, 2009 Posted January 6, 2009 http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/meast/01/05/gaza.children/index.html and the cycle goes on... As I said, each group will take 'revenge' on the other. The cycle goes on. Both parties need to stop this cra.p and work out a solution that involves truce. But neither seems very interested.
EnterTheVoid Posted January 6, 2009 Posted January 6, 2009 Palestine sends 1 home made rocket Israel drops 1 ten tonne guided missile fair game dumb hamas
TheBoyPlunger Posted January 7, 2009 Posted January 7, 2009 War Is Weird When Played By Gaza Rules By VICTOR DAVIS HANSON | Posted Monday, January 05, 2009 4:20 PM PT The Israelis just struck back hard at Hamas in Gaza. In response, the United Nations, the European Union and the Arab world (at least publicly) expressed their anger at the killing of hundreds of Palestinians, most of whom were terrorists and Hamas officials. For several prior weeks, Hamas terrorists had been daily launching rockets into Israeli towns that border Gaza. The recent volleys of missiles had insidiously become more frequent — up to 80 a day — and the payloads larger. Iranian-backed Hezbollah terrorists were reportedly supplying their own training and expertise. These terrorists point to the Lebanon war of 2006 as the proper template for provoking an Israeli counterresponse that will bog down the Israeli Defense Forces in the streets of urban Gaza and ensure that Palestinian civilians are harmed on global television. Watching both this war and the world's predictable reaction to it, we can recall the Gaza rules. Most are reflections of our postmodern age, and completely at odds with the past protocols of war. First is the now-familiar Middle East doctrine of proportionality. Legitimate military action is strangely defined by the relative strength of the combatants. World opinion more vehemently condemns Israel's countermeasures, apparently because its rockets are far more accurate and deadly than previous Hamas barrages that are poorly targeted and thus not so lethal. If America had accepted such rules in, say, World War II, then by late 1944 we, not the Axis, would have been the culpable party, since by then once-aggressive German, Italian and Japanese forces were on the defensive and far less lethal than the Allies. Second, intent in this war no longer matters. Every Hamas unguided rocket is launched in hopes of hitting an Israeli home and killing men, women and children. Every guided Israeli air-launched missile is targeted at Hamas operatives, who deliberately work in the closest vicinity to women and children. Killing Palestinian civilians is incidental to Israeli military operations and proves counterproductive to its objectives. Blowing up Israeli noncombatants is the aim of Hamas' barrages: the more children, aged and women who die, the more it expects political concessions from Tel Aviv. By this logic, the 1999 American bombing of Belgrade — aimed at stopping the genocide of Slobodan Milosevic — was, because of collateral damage, the moral equivalent of the carefully planned Serbian massacres of Muslim civilians at Srebrenica in 1995. Third, culpability is irrelevant. The "truce" between Israel and Hamas was broken once Hamas got its hands on new stockpiles of longer-range mobile rockets — weapons that are intended to go over Israel's border walls. Yet, according to the Gaza rules, both sides always deserve equal blame. Indeed, this weird war mimics the politically correct, zero-tolerance policies of public schools, where both the bully and his victim are suspended once physical violence occurs. According to such morally equivalent reasoning, World War II was only a tragedy, not a result of German aggression. Once the dead mounted up, it mattered little what were the catalysts of the fighting. Fourth, with instantaneous streaming video from the impact sites in Gaza, context becomes meaningless. Our attention is glued to the violence of the last hour, not that of the last month that incited the war. Israel withdrew from Gaza in 2005 to great expectations that the Palestinians there would combine their new autonomy, some existing infrastructure left behind by the Israelis, Middle East oil money and U.S. pressure for free and open elections to craft a peaceful, prosperous democracy. The world hoped Gaza might thrive first, and then later adjudicate its ongoing disputes with Israel through diplomacy. Instead, the withdrawal was seen not as a welcome Israeli concession, but as a sign of newfound Jewish weakness — and that the intifada tactics that had liberated Gaza could be amplified into a new war to end the Zionist entity itself. Fifth and finally, victimization is crucial. Hamas daily sends barrages into Israel, as its hooded thugs thump their chests and brag of their radical Islamic militancy. But when the payback comes, suddenly warriors are transmogrified into weeping victims, posing teary-eyed for the news camera as they deplore "genocide" and "the Palestinian Holocaust." At least the Japanese militarists did not cry out to the League of Nations for help once mean Marines landed on Iwo Jima. By now, these Gaza asymmetrical rules are old hat. We know why they persist — worldwide fear of Islamic terrorism, easy anti-Westernism, the old anti-Semitism and global strategic calculations about Middle East oil — but it still doesn't make them right.
Guest dada_rocks Posted January 7, 2009 Posted January 7, 2009 Danw news reports Pakistani officials are about to accept officially that kasab was pakistani.. these pakistani chumps are one of a kind
Guest dada_rocks Posted January 7, 2009 Posted January 7, 2009 War Is Weird When Played By Gaza Rules By VICTOR DAVIS HANSON | Posted Monday, January 05, 2009 4:20 PM PT The Israelis just struck back hard at Hamas in Gaza. In response, the United Nations, the European Union and the Arab world (at least publicly) expressed their anger at the killing of hundreds of Palestinians, most of whom were terrorists and Hamas officials. For several prior weeks, Hamas terrorists had been daily launching rockets into Israeli towns that border Gaza. The recent volleys of missiles had insidiously become more frequent — up to 80 a day — and the payloads larger. Iranian-backed Hezbollah terrorists were reportedly supplying their own training and expertise. These terrorists point to the Lebanon war of 2006 as the proper template for provoking an Israeli counterresponse that will bog down the Israeli Defense Forces in the streets of urban Gaza and ensure that Palestinian civilians are harmed on global television. Watching both this war and the world's predictable reaction to it, we can recall the Gaza rules. Most are reflections of our postmodern age, and completely at odds with the past protocols of war. First is the now-familiar Middle East doctrine of proportionality. Legitimate military action is strangely defined by the relative strength of the combatants. World opinion more vehemently condemns Israel's countermeasures, apparently because its rockets are far more accurate and deadly than previous Hamas barrages that are poorly targeted and thus not so lethal. If America had accepted such rules in, say, World War II, then by late 1944 we, not the Axis, would have been the culpable party, since by then once-aggressive German, Italian and Japanese forces were on the defensive and far less lethal than the Allies. Second, intent in this war no longer matters. Every Hamas unguided rocket is launched in hopes of hitting an Israeli home and killing men, women and children. Every guided Israeli air-launched missile is targeted at Hamas operatives, who deliberately work in the closest vicinity to women and children. Killing Palestinian civilians is incidental to Israeli military operations and proves counterproductive to its objectives. Blowing up Israeli noncombatants is the aim of Hamas' barrages: the more children, aged and women who die, the more it expects political concessions from Tel Aviv. By this logic, the 1999 American bombing of Belgrade — aimed at stopping the genocide of Slobodan Milosevic — was, because of collateral damage, the moral equivalent of the carefully planned Serbian massacres of Muslim civilians at Srebrenica in 1995. Third, culpability is irrelevant. The "truce" between Israel and Hamas was broken once Hamas got its hands on new stockpiles of longer-range mobile rockets — weapons that are intended to go over Israel's border walls. Yet, according to the Gaza rules, both sides always deserve equal blame. Indeed, this weird war mimics the politically correct, zero-tolerance policies of public schools, where both the bully and his victim are suspended once physical violence occurs. According to such morally equivalent reasoning, World War II was only a tragedy, not a result of German aggression. Once the dead mounted up, it mattered little what were the catalysts of the fighting. Fourth, with instantaneous streaming video from the impact sites in Gaza, context becomes meaningless. Our attention is glued to the violence of the last hour, not that of the last month that incited the war. Israel withdrew from Gaza in 2005 to great expectations that the Palestinians there would combine their new autonomy, some existing infrastructure left behind by the Israelis, Middle East oil money and U.S. pressure for free and open elections to craft a peaceful, prosperous democracy. The world hoped Gaza might thrive first, and then later adjudicate its ongoing disputes with Israel through diplomacy. Instead, the withdrawal was seen not as a welcome Israeli concession, but as a sign of newfound Jewish weakness — and that the intifada tactics that had liberated Gaza could be amplified into a new war to end the Zionist entity itself. Fifth and finally, victimization is crucial. Hamas daily sends barrages into Israel, as its hooded thugs thump their chests and brag of their radical Islamic militancy. But when the payback comes, suddenly warriors are transmogrified into weeping victims, posing teary-eyed for the news camera as they deplore "genocide" and "the Palestinian Holocaust." At least the Japanese militarists did not cry out to the League of Nations for help once mean Marines landed on Iwo Jima. By now, these Gaza asymmetrical rules are old hat. We know why they persist — worldwide fear of Islamic terrorism, easy anti-Westernism, the old anti-Semitism and global strategic calculations about Middle East oil — but it still doesn't make them right. precisely Hamas inefficiency coined with Israeli;s respect for their own lives have made sure that despite random wanton rocket firing by hams casualty remains less. Thsi doesn't mean Israel must not respont randomly and wantonly.. ***** begets ***** I fully endorse this doctrine.
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