cowboysfan Posted January 25, 2009 Posted January 25, 2009 time to ban shiv sena and its off shoots-these people are worse than terrorists and are now infecting our state with their hate filled propaganda1st in begaum and now in mangalore. http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/India/Girls_assaulted_at_Mangalore_pub_NCW_vows_justice/articleshow 4029791.cms Girls assaulted at Mangalore pub; NCW promises justice MANGALORE: A fanatical right-wing group notorious for creating communal tensions and indulging in moral policing has struck again in Karnataka, Mangalore pub assault this time assaulting women guests at a bar in Mangalore. The activists of Sri Rama Sena entered the Amnesia Bar and Restaurant on Dr Shivaram Karanth Road on Saturday evening and threatened the women sitting inside. The men, who took objection to women drinking alcohol, pushed them outside, many women falling to the ground while they were being driven out. Mangalore North Circle inspector Umesh G Shet said a group of 10-15 men entered the pub in the evening and started arguing with the guests. ``They got into an altercation with the women customers saying they were dressed indecently,'' he said. The men also told the women that they would face dire consequences if they were seen in pubs again. The group left the bar after threatening its owner. The incident drew instant criticism from various sections of the society, who strongly condemned the moral policing by members of the Sri Rama Sena, which was involved in violence during Karnataka's Cauvery water dispute with neighbouring Tamil Nadu. Police have arrested 13 men in connection with the incident. Police said those arrested were activists of Sri Rama Sena The arrested Sena activists claimed that they carried out the attack ``because of the attitude of the young women'', police sources said. The Sena activists accused the women of ``involving themselves in immoral activities, including consuming alcohol, dressing indecently, and mixing with youths of other faith''. The men will be produced in a court on Tuesday. The arrests came after police questioned the owner of the pub and customers present there at the time of the incident. ``The owner was initially reluctant to file a complaint, but relented after we assured him of police protection,'' said inspector Umesh Shet. Police are looking for Shashidhar Shetty, a local Sri Rama Sene leader, and Preetham, a student leader, for issuing comments supporting the violent incident. Umesh Shet said they would be arrested on charges of conspiring with those who were involved in the attack. The Sena was also responsible for the attack on the Bangalore home of Tamil Nadu chief minister M Karunanidhi's daughter Selvi during the Cauvery protests in September 2007. What is Sri Rama Sena Sri Rama Senais a pro-Hindu apolitical organization based in Hubli and promoted by Promod Mutalik, who floated the organization after parting ways with the BJP a few years ago. The organization is known for celebrating all Hindu festivals on a grand scale. But is infamous for creating communal tensions and moral policing. It claims to be a ``protector'' of swadeshi ideology and Hindutva.
graphic23 Posted January 25, 2009 Posted January 25, 2009 ****ers should be thrown in jail - and given a life imprisonment. This is nothing less than what the Taliban are trying to do.
kumble_rocks Posted January 25, 2009 Posted January 25, 2009 Agree with OP . Shiv Sena is a cancer ...
fineleg Posted January 25, 2009 Posted January 25, 2009 Video: http://www.ndtv.com/convergence/ndtv/video/video.aspx?id=52048
cowboysfan Posted January 25, 2009 Author Posted January 25, 2009 why dont your 1% theory ' date=' due process , innocent until proven otherwise and other such theories from "mindless liberalism 101" not apply here finey ? :hmmm:[/quote'] do we need more evidence against these animals?they are trying to destroy our country by spreading their hatred and bigotry.they need to be stopped right now.
EnterTheVoid Posted January 25, 2009 Posted January 25, 2009 ban shiva sena? nothing doing ... as far as I am concerned, this organization is a necessary evil
graphic23 Posted January 25, 2009 Posted January 25, 2009 more than the muslim community and their various organizations ? :nervous: Why does that matter? Do you judge crime relatively? These guys need to be thrown in jail and we've to show that we're not taliban.
graphic23 Posted January 25, 2009 Posted January 25, 2009 How is an organization named "Sri Ram Sena" beating up a bunch of girls who were drinking in a pub have anything to do with muslims? They justified their actions by claiming that these girls were acting against our culture. What does this have anything to do with Muslims? They are neither the victims nor the perpetrators.
Ram Posted January 25, 2009 Posted January 25, 2009 Absolutely... The most pressing problem we face in our country is the issue of some scantily clad women going to a privately owned place and having a drink, isnt it? Its NOT the issues of millions of people crawling in abject poverty, without food, healthcare, sanitation and primary education. Its NOT the issue of broken public infrastructure, rampant corruption, women's rights, AIDS awareness. Its NOT the threat we face from religious fundamentalism, regionalism and hostile neighbors. We need more Senas like these, to address such pressing problems of women drinking privately. I love Ram Sena! :yay:
Lurker Posted January 26, 2009 Posted January 26, 2009 Another example of why bhagwa brigade and its loony organizations - RSS, VHP, Shive Sena, Ram Sena etc - and Taliban/Muslim League are essentially two sides of the same coin.
graphic23 Posted January 26, 2009 Posted January 26, 2009 You are right if you look at it this incident in isolation. But why is this Rama Sena in business today ? You think their main agenda is to go looking for girls in bars ? Dont you want to know why such radical organizations are springing up ? Your argument would work if it was Muslims that these guys were abusing because they would've believed that Muslims are being appeased. This action just says "Hey! You're not the only ones to get away freely when you oppress people. We can get away when we oppress Hindus too!" It doesn't make sense to me.
fineleg Posted January 26, 2009 Posted January 26, 2009 Another example of why bhagwa brigade and its loony organizations - RSS' date=' VHP, Shive Sena, Ram Sena etc - and Taliban/Muslim League are essentially two sides of the same coin.[/quote'] exactly, and i cant believe some of our icf is giving justification for creation/existence of sena brigade/
seedhi Posted January 26, 2009 Posted January 26, 2009 Another example of why bhagwa brigade and its loony organizations - RSS' date=' VHP, Shive Sena, Ram Sena etc - and Taliban/Muslim League are essentially two sides of the same coin.[/quote']What has this Sri Ram Sena got to do with RSS? And it is quite a stretch to compare these people to Taliban, who would have summarily executed those girls for simply stepping out of their houses, no questions asked. Leave aside entering a pub.
Lurker Posted January 26, 2009 Posted January 26, 2009 What has this Sri Ram Sena got to do with RSS? And it is quite a stretch to compare these people to Taliban' date=' who would have summarily executed those girls for simply stepping out of their houses, no questions asked. Leave aside entering a pub.[/quote'] It is all the matter of point of view Sirjee. Where I come from Bangalore was the town where this was not even an issue in 80s, forget in 2009. Atleast Afganistan was always barbaric. Bangalore is the pub town yada yada. Now girls are getting slapped and you are having issues with my comparison? Yes the right wing brigade is always the same. Be it RSS or Taliban or Republicans, you can see that they will all trace their "moral" gumption to religion. Samjhe bhai saab?
seedhi Posted January 26, 2009 Posted January 26, 2009 Absolutely... The most pressing problem we face in our country is the issue of some scantily clad women going to a privately owned place and having a drink' date=' isnt it? [/quote']And neither is a few girls being roughed up by a bunch of hooligans the most pressing problem we face today. This incident is being treated as a terrorist attack and comparisons to the Taliban are being made. When a few days ago a muslim woman was beaten by a muslim womens group up for sporting a tattoo on her back, then where was the outrage? I guess it is customary to lose all perspective when the hooligans are Hindus rather than Muslims.
cowboysfan Posted January 26, 2009 Author Posted January 26, 2009 more than the muslim community and their various organizations ? :nervous: i dont get your logic.are there muslims goondas going around beating innocent girls ?.the shiv sena is a abomination and it doesnt represent hindus or hindu values as they claim,violence against women is the worst thing a human being can do and these people need to banned and thought a lesson.they are trying to mould the society based on their own twisted beliefs -this is against the principles on which our country has worked to become in 60 odds years.
Lurker Posted January 26, 2009 Posted January 26, 2009 And neither is a few girls being roughed up by a bunch of hooligans the most pressing problem we face today. This incident is being treated as a terrorist attack and comparisons to the Taliban are being made. :hysterical::hysterical: I can not wait to see if a family member of yours gets roughed up. here's wishing it gets done pretty soon. cant wait. When a few days ago a muslim woman was beaten by a muslim womens group up for sporting a tattoo on her back, then where was the outrage? I guess it is customary to lose all perspective when the hooligans are Hindus rather than Muslims. I personally started the thread and it received quite a few responses. Feel free to use the Search button.
seedhi Posted January 26, 2009 Posted January 26, 2009 Bangalore is the pub town yada yada. This happened in Mangalore, not Bangalore. Be it RSS or Taliban or Republicans, you can see that they will all trace their "moral" gumption to religion.Everyone can base their actions on their interpretation of morality. The loony left and the secular brigade have their own dogmatic principles, and extreme interpretation of which gives rise to disasters like the naxals. So if RSS can be grouped with any fringe fanatic group that is religious, surely secular jholawala brigade should stand in line with the naxal-maoist butchers who have killed thousands across India. What bothers me is the lack of outrage among these same secularists members of the loony left indulge in such acts. Have the naxals been compared to the Taliban by these secular freaks yet, inspite of them having similarly ravaged entire populations?
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