Pakistan cricket-Match Fixing-The Justice Qayyum Report-full text...........

[Laaloo]

My memory is not short. I was desperate to win that but because you guys had zero points till that match...you were never in contention. You were never gonna batter NZ by the margin required and Pakistan always had a match v Zimbabwe to go through to semis. That Pakistan match was your biggest match and you won, fair do's....great it was at time of Kargil, which means that it musta been tense in the crowd. I wasn't in Manchester for that one. Btw, I don't think it was fixed.

Thats only you though! Many paki fans that I have known believe that the match was fixed!

[hassan_113]

We genuinely struggled against the disciplined bowling from Srinath, Prasad and Kumble.

[Predator_05]

Thats only you though! Many paki fans that I have known believe that the match was fixed!

Pakis think EVERY game they have ever lost to India was fixed. Anyone remember the reaction after the '04 tour ? Jeet lo dil, jeet lo dil, India allowed to win to keep the Indian sponsors happy.

[hassan_113]

Nope, that wasn't fixed either. Balaji and Pathan bowled brilliantly at the start to dent Pakistan's chase and even though Malik and Moin tried hard, they couldn't win it for Pak.

[Pak_Forever]

What a shame..Pakies can do anything for some doller.... And we can buy it i will happy to buy them.. :hysterical: pathetic crickets..

Allegations have been raised and inquiries have been done on the following players too: Kapil Dev (Crocodile tears) M. Azharuddin Ajay Jadeda few others can't recall their names Wonder which team they play for? :--D

[Laaloo]

Allegations have been raised and inquiries have been done on the following players too: Kapil Dev (Crocodile tears) M. Azharuddin Ajay Jadeda few others can't recall their names Wonder which team they play for? :--D

Imran Waqar Shoaib Inzi Anwar Salim Maleek Latif Wasim Akhtar..... and the list continues

[Pak_Forever]

Imran Waqar Shoaib Inzi Anwar Salim Maleek Latif Wasim Akhtar..... and the list continues

When a match is perceived as fixed then everyone playing comes under the radar. Indian matches had been perceived as fixed too and I can go on and paste a list of 11 players playing from various matches.

[Predator_05]

When a match is perceived as fixed then everyone playing comes under the radar. Indian matches had been perceived as fixed too and I can go on and paste a list of 11 players playing from various matches.

Can you name 11 Indian players that had to address allegations in court ?

[Dravid]

Allegations have been raised and inquiries have been done on the following players too: Kapil Dev (Crocodile tears) M. Azharuddin Ajay Jadeda few others can't recall their names Wonder which team they play for? :--D

funny thing is.. a guy named mohamed had to do with 95% of the fixing:haha:

[Nash]

When a match is perceived as fixed then everyone playing comes under the radar. Indian matches had been perceived as fixed too and I can go on and paste a list of 11 players playing from various matches.

According to your brained washed paki fans, Each match lost to india was fixed and matches were won against india were not.. So that says your whole paki team is match fixer.. As india pak has 4:6 winning ratio to each other. It should be 0-10 to pak's favor.. :--D Your cricketers sold their nation for indian money. WHAT A SHAME....:hysterical: Characterless society produces characterless cricketers...:hysterical: :finger:

[Laaloo]

Im just gonna keep bumping this thread until this paki respond to post # 48.

[DomainK]

Im just gonna keep bumping this thread until this paki respond to post # 48.

He wont. He does not want to.

[Pak_Forever]

Can you name 11 Indian players that had to address allegations in court ?

Well first no Indian player name was visible anywhere on this thread, as many of you believed they all were saints, then I brought up few and now you want a list of all 11 players? I mean what part of 'perceived' don't you understand? According to me if a match is perceived as fixed then every team member should address allegation in court or to any other authority. Pakistani I guess carried it our correctly with questioning most of the team-members, while Indians didn't carry it out legitimately, probably to avoid defamation of their Gods. Unless you question every person involved, you would never learn about the whole picture. I am pretty sure others could have been involved too other than Kapil, Azhar and Jadeja, had BCCI taken it seriously. And in the end 1, 2 or 11, does it really matter? Indian team-members have been questioned for match fixing, and that should be enough for you people to look at yourself first before pointing fingers.

[Rajan]

Well first no Indian player name was visible anywhere on this thread, as many of you believed they all were saints, then I brought up few and now you want a list of all 11 players? I mean what part of 'perceived' don't you understand? According to me if a match is perceived as fixed then every team member should address allegation in court or to any other authority. Pakistani I guess carried it our correctly with questioning most of the team-members, while Indians didn't carry it out legitimately, probably to avoid defamation of their Gods. Unless you question every person involved, you would never learn about the whole picture. I am pretty sure others could have been involved too other than Kapil, Azhar and Jadeja, had BCCI taken it seriously. And in the end 1, 2 or 11, does it really matter? Indian team-members have been questioned for match fixing, and that should be enough for you people to look at yourself first before pointing fingers.

Assumptions, assumptions! U did not do ur homework properly. BCCI had appointed a CBI Director to probe the Match Fixing!not just a Judge. Azhar, Jadeja,Prabhakar, Kiran More, Kapil, Ajay Sharma,Nikil Chopra,Physio Ali Irani , All Managers staring from Ajit Wadekar, Anshu Gaekwad,Sandeep Patil, Chandu Borde were initially interrogated.then prima facie evidence was gathered that Azhar and Jadeja were guilty.But before sentencing them, the ex.CBI director called Sachin Tendulkar for verifying about the accusations on Azhar and Jadeja. only after Sachin's evidence Azhar was sentenced.so, dont blabber that BCCI was not serious, that is a lie. i can understand you. just because all your heroes and stars, starting from Imarn, Wasim,Malik, Waqar, Inzy,Anwar,Mushtaq were accused of indulging in match fixing and most were subsequently even fined/banned as Match Fixers, u r just trying to paint Sachin with the same brush! it is a futile attempt, as good as spitting at the roof when lying down face up! keep trying and cover yourself with more spit! When Prabhakar came out with an allegation that Kapil tried to bribe him, BCCI promptly vonducted another enquiry by appointing Justice Chandarkar if i am correct who interrogated all the players and officials who were interviewed by Prabhakar on hidden camera-Ravi shastri,Kiran More,Gaekwad and also ,Prabhakar and Kapil before absolving Kapil of any misdeeds.! but u hide ur head deep in sand and shout BCCI is not serious! yes, we trust you!:hysterical:

[Rajan]

Oh, and the difference between Indian fans and Pakistan fan(atic)s is simple. we dont hold Azhar or Jadeja as all time greats or never even mention them in the same sentence when we discuss about Gavaskar/Vishvanath/Sachin/Dravid/Ganguly/Laxman/Kapil/Kumble! where as despite 100% knowing that wasim akram and Mushtaq ahmed sold ur country repeatedly for money,and Inzy,Anwar, waqar a few times, you people are conveniently forgetting the truth and hold them as Great Cricketers! they r cheats and if you guys try to cover up their misdeeds and hope to paint indian cricketers other than Azhar/Jadeja/Ajay sharma, you would also be cheats and liars! what else we can expect from people driven by hate!

[Rajan]

I had also pointed out about the facts- despite the probe findings and Justice Qayyum's recommendations, Mushtaq was appointed as bowling coach. what an example for the youngsters! even if u sell your team, u can come back! even Great Saint Salim Malik was appointed for a NCA job so soon after his ban was lifted.great haste shown before ICC stepped in and wrote a letter to PCB reminding about his misdeeds! BCCI never resorted to such scandolous appointments!

[SachDan]

Malaise in Pakistan team can be traced to money, or the lack of it By Dileep Premchandran To understand why Pakistan cricket finds itself in such a mess, you have to go back a little over a decade to a two-year inquiry into match-fixing. Malik Mohammad Qayyum was a judge in the Lahore high court when he was asked to lift the lid off nearly a decade of scandal, a litany of misdemeanours that dated back to the summer of 1992, soon after Imran Khan had held the World Cup aloft in Melbourne. In the words of Osman Samiuddin, Cricinfo's Pakistan editor: "The Qayyum report was a classic Pakistani attempt at inquiry, one which bathes in its ambiguity and smells fresh of cover-up afterwards." Two men were banned for life in May 2000 based on his findings, but the 37-year-old Salim Malik had not played since the World Cup defeat to India at Old Trafford in June the previous year and Ata-ur-Rehman had won his final cap on the tour of England in 1996. The feeling persisted that they took the fall because they were expendable. Those Qayyum absolved, without ever exonerating, were some of the biggest names in the game – Wasim Akram, Waqar Younis, Inzamam-ul-Haq, Mushtaq Ahmed and Saeed Anwar. Each was fined, though, and the case against them fell apart because of a lack of "positive proof". When the News of the World broke its story, Qayyum certainly was not short of a word or two. "The latest shame fell on Pakistan only because my recommendations were not fully implemented," he said. "Had my report on match-fixing been fully implemented, this latest episode would not have happened. I suggested the Pakistan Cricket Board keep tight vigil on the players and recommended some of the players should not be given any responsibility in team matters, but some of them are still involved in the team's coaching." But this is the same Qayyum who created a stir when India toured Pakistan in early 2006, by admitting to a Cricinfo journalist that he had been lenient with one or two players because he "had a soft spot for them". It is also the same man who had to resign his high court position after a phone transcript suggested that he had conspired with Nawaz Sharif, at the time prime minister, to manipulate a case involving the late Benazir Bhutto. Qayyum denied the allegations. What goes on behind the scenes in Pakistan cricket is straight out of the House of Incest. The patron-in-chief is Asif Ali Zardari, the country's president, who was swanning about in French chateaus when millions of his subjects were struggling to cope with floods of Biblical proportions. Ijaz Butt, the board president under whose watch the nation's cricket has become a global joke, is the brother-in-law of Ahmad Mukhtar, the defence minister of Pakistan. Imran Farhat, one of the openers in the current side, is the son-in-law of Mohammad Ilyas, a former Test player and a PCB employee. Ijaz Ahmed, part of the coaching dispensation under Waqar, is married to the sister of the disgraced Malik. He was accused of issuing fake cheques last year and, soon after the case was thrown out by the courts, was appointed coach of the Under-19s side, who reached the final of the World Cup earlier this year. Look, too, at the men involved with the current tour. Waqar was fined following the Qayyum inquiry. Yawar Saeed, the tour manager, was removed from his post earlier after it was discovered that dubious characters had been staying on the same floor as the team during a tour of Sri Lanka last year. Shafqat Rana, a former selector, has been accused in the past of taking bribes from players, one of whom – Wahab Riaz – helped to set up Pakistan's victory at The Oval. This intricate back-scratching network aside, the malaise can be traced to money, or lack of it. In 2000, Qayyum recommended that "the PCB increase the pay of its cricketers and develop for them more avenues of income ... Pakistani players for all their talent are not as well-paid as their counterparts abroad. As long as they are underpaid the tendency to be bribed remains." Little has changed. The £4,000 cheque Mohammad Amir received for being Pakistan's player of the series was three times the monthly retainer he gets from the PCB. It is just over half what Ishant Sharma, India's most exciting bowling prospect when he signed for the Kolkata Knight Riders in 2008, received for every ball he bowled in the Indian Premier League. There were more than a few whispers of discontent when central contracts were signed this year. The players were uneasy about a clause that made it compulsory for a player and his agent to seek the permission of the board before signing a contract with a foreign team. Under the terms agreed to, a player would have forfeited his retainer while he played elsewhere. A senior Urdu journalist had drawn attention to the activities of the Majeed brothers, Azhar and Mazhar – the latter of whom was at the centre of the News of the World's allegations yesterday – even before the scandal broke. According to the Pakistan team management, there were supposedly instructions not to allow them access to the players. But given that they have allegedly represented everyone from Younis Khan and Mohammad Yousuf to Shahid Afridi and Salman Butt, those were not worth the paper they were printed on. "To those disappointed with their fallen heroes, it be suggested that humans are fallible," said Qayyum in conclusion. "Cricketers are only cricketers. Please maintain a sense of perspective when you react and criticise." Perspective? It was not always like this. In the 1960s, when Majid Khan, who would go on to star for both the national side and Glamorgan, arrived for trials, Jahangir Khan, his father, tendered his resignation as selector. It is perhaps just as well that men such as he and Fazal Mahmood, whose sweat and toil were responsible for so many of Pakistan cricket's early highlights, are not alive to see this darkest day. "Two ghosts have haunted Pakistan this decade: Osama bin Laden and the Fixed Match," wrote Samiuddin in his article on fixing. The first remains elusive and the second refuses to go away. But before tearing into the players, some of them so young and naive, we would do well to heed the words of Brian Lara. "I don't think you'd see an indisciplined team if you have a disciplined board," he said when asked about the troubles in the Caribbean. "If you have a disciplined board, they would know exactly what they want from their players. You need to see the whole spiral, where it starts from." Unless Pakistan cricket takes note of that, it will die many more deaths. And there will not be anyone left to care. link

[Sachinism]

Good article from Dileep. Pakistan must not look for a quick fix here. They need to do their best to weed out every scumbag. From reading the article it looks like there could a lot of them

[sangrock]

http://www.rediff.com/sports/2000/may/25rep.htm COLOR] Inzamam:Furthermore, when asked about the Christchurch match, the partial amnesia that these players seem to have developed was distressing. It is understandable that these players have played too many games (except for Akram Raza and Basit Ali) to recall all of them. Nevertheless, there have not been that many matches about which allegations of match-fixing have been made. It was interesting to see one of them remembered the weather of the match, but did not recall any other details. This commission believes that these players probably knew more than they revealed. For not being forthcoming, these players too should be fined Rs. 1 lac each and they be kept under observation.

[vamos_rafa]

By Dileep Premchandran To understand why Pakistan cricket finds itself in such a mess, you have to go back a little over a decade to a two-year inquiry into match-fixing. Malik Mohammad Qayyum was a judge in the Lahore high court when he was asked to lift the lid off nearly a decade of scandal, a litany of misdemeanours that dated back to the summer of 1992, soon after Imran Khan had held the World Cup aloft in Melbourne. In the words of Osman Samiuddin, Cricinfo's Pakistan editor: "The Qayyum report was a classic Pakistani attempt at inquiry, one which bathes in its ambiguity and smells fresh of cover-up afterwards." Two men were banned for life in May 2000 based on his findings, but the 37-year-old Salim Malik had not played since the World Cup defeat to India at Old Trafford in June the previous year and Ata-ur-Rehman had won his final cap on the tour of England in 1996. The feeling persisted that they took the fall because they were expendable. Those Qayyum absolved, without ever exonerating, were some of the biggest names in the game – Wasim Akram, Waqar Younis, Inzamam-ul-Haq, Mushtaq Ahmed and Saeed Anwar. Each was fined, though, and the case against them fell apart because of a lack of "positive proof". When the News of the World broke its story, Qayyum certainly was not short of a word or two. "The latest shame fell on Pakistan only because my recommendations were not fully implemented," he said. "Had my report on match-fixing been fully implemented, this latest episode would not have happened. I suggested the Pakistan Cricket Board keep tight vigil on the players and recommended some of the players should not be given any responsibility in team matters, but some of them are still involved in the team's coaching." But this is the same Qayyum who created a stir when India toured Pakistan in early 2006, by admitting to a Cricinfo journalist that he had been lenient with one or two players because he "had a soft spot for them". It is also the same man who had to resign his high court position after a phone transcript suggested that he had conspired with Nawaz Sharif, at the time prime minister, to manipulate a case involving the late Benazir Bhutto. Qayyum denied the allegations. What goes on behind the scenes in Pakistan cricket is straight out of the House of Incest. The patron-in-chief is Asif Ali Zardari, the country's president, who was swanning about in French chateaus when millions of his subjects were struggling to cope with floods of Biblical proportions. Ijaz Butt, the board president under whose watch the nation's cricket has become a global joke, is the brother-in-law of Ahmad Mukhtar, the defence minister of Pakistan. Imran Farhat, one of the openers in the current side, is the son-in-law of Mohammad Ilyas, a former Test player and a PCB employee. Ijaz Ahmed, part of the coaching dispensation under Waqar, is married to the sister of the disgraced Malik. He was accused of issuing fake cheques last year and, soon after the case was thrown out by the courts, was appointed coach of the Under-19s side, who reached the final of the World Cup earlier this year. Look, too, at the men involved with the current tour. Waqar was fined following the Qayyum inquiry. Yawar Saeed, the tour manager, was removed from his post earlier after it was discovered that dubious characters had been staying on the same floor as the team during a tour of Sri Lanka last year. Shafqat Rana, a former selector, has been accused in the past of taking bribes from players, one of whom – Wahab Riaz – helped to set up Pakistan's victory at The Oval. This intricate back-scratching network aside, the malaise can be traced to money, or lack of it. In 2000, Qayyum recommended that "the PCB increase the pay of its cricketers and develop for them more avenues of income ... Pakistani players for all their talent are not as well-paid as their counterparts abroad. As long as they are underpaid the tendency to be bribed remains." Little has changed. The £4,000 cheque Mohammad Amir received for being Pakistan's player of the series was three times the monthly retainer he gets from the PCB. It is just over half what Ishant Sharma, India's most exciting bowling prospect when he signed for the Kolkata Knight Riders in 2008, received for every ball he bowled in the Indian Premier League. There were more than a few whispers of discontent when central contracts were signed this year. The players were uneasy about a clause that made it compulsory for a player and his agent to seek the permission of the board before signing a contract with a foreign team. Under the terms agreed to, a player would have forfeited his retainer while he played elsewhere. A senior Urdu journalist had drawn attention to the activities of the Majeed brothers, Azhar and Mazhar – the latter of whom was at the centre of the News of the World's allegations yesterday – even before the scandal broke. According to the Pakistan team management, there were supposedly instructions not to allow them access to the players. But given that they have allegedly represented everyone from Younis Khan and Mohammad Yousuf to Shahid Afridi and Salman Butt, those were not worth the paper they were printed on. "To those disappointed with their fallen heroes, it be suggested that humans are fallible," said Qayyum in conclusion. "Cricketers are only cricketers. Please maintain a sense of perspective when you react and criticise." Perspective? It was not always like this. In the 1960s, when Majid Khan, who would go on to star for both the national side and Glamorgan, arrived for trials, Jahangir Khan, his father, tendered his resignation as selector. It is perhaps just as well that men such as he and Fazal Mahmood, whose sweat and toil were responsible for so many of Pakistan cricket's early highlights, are not alive to see this darkest day. "Two ghosts have haunted Pakistan this decade: Osama bin Laden and the Fixed Match," wrote Samiuddin in his article on fixing. The first remains elusive and the second refuses to go away. But before tearing into the players, some of them so young and naive, we would do well to heed the words of Brian Lara. "I don't think you'd see an indisciplined team if you have a disciplined board," he said when asked about the troubles in the Caribbean. "If you have a disciplined board, they would know exactly what they want from their players. You need to see the whole spiral, where it starts from." Unless Pakistan cricket takes note of that, it will die many more deaths. And there will not be anyone left to care. link

Very good point made there by BCL. Pakistan administration is the first one to be blamed if, all of this is true. They are the biigest clown moving around in the world today with no control whatsoever on the proceedings.