bharat297 Posted June 10, 2009 Share Posted June 10, 2009 Sounds crazy but hear me out ... Here are the reasons why I think Australia might not have wanted to advance into the latter stages of the tournament: * Ashes series is more important to them, especially Ponting - For Ponting, he knows that losing another Ashes series would almost certainly mark the end of his captaincy, and winning it in England would be one of the few things he has left to achieve. * A few extra weeks of preparation would certainly help them for the Ashes. * Clarke, Ponting & Johnson (arguably their 3 best players) pulled out of the IPL. Wouldnt that have been ideal preparation for a World T20 tournament? Furthermore, Ponting pulled out of the Pakistan series. * In the crucial stages of the last match, Brett Lee was given the ball ahead of Mitchell Johnson despite the fact that MJ is in career best form over the past year and Lee had barely played any cricket. Furthermore, Lee got smashed in his early overs worse than Johnson and has had problems with no-balls. * Ponting would not want to risk an injury to one of his key players and might have felt that a fast paced game like T20 would be a risk (OK, thats a poor point I know because one could also get injured at training) * Ponting, who has fought tooth and nail to keep Symonds in the side before (like for the WC2003), was seemingly very quick (along with Clarke and co.) to send him home. Say what you want about Symonds but the whole world knows just how good he is at this format. Obviously I cant prove this, but this is just a sneaking suspicion and I wonder if others have it too. Link to comment
Dravid Posted June 10, 2009 Share Posted June 10, 2009 so then y didnt eng lose against pakis?? they need more preparation time then OZ :hahaha: usless they were trying too, but pakis still ****d up :haha: Link to comment
bharat297 Posted June 10, 2009 Author Share Posted June 10, 2009 ^ Im not talking about England, I'm saying maybe Australia did. Link to comment
King Posted June 10, 2009 Share Posted June 10, 2009 By saying this you are discrediting the likes of Gayle, A Fletcher, Mendis, Murali, Sanga and others. If you had watched Gayle take Bret Lee to the cleaners or Mendis bamboozle Aussies you wouldn't have started this OP. Make no mistake Aussies were clueless against Gayle and Mendis. Even if Aussies wanted or Bret Lee tried harder he wouldn't just be able to go for 27 runs in an over. Which bowler would like to be smacked for 27 runs in an over? Even Jadeja, Azhar, Cronje, Manoj Prabhakar, Salim Malik or Wasim Akram wouldn't have been able to conceed 27 runs in an over. Link to comment
bharat297 Posted June 10, 2009 Author Share Posted June 10, 2009 I did watch the game ... both games in fact. Its not that they were trying to lose, but Im thinking maybe (and im not saying this with any certainty, because it does seem farfetched), that they didnt really care that they lost. If they were serious about winning the tournament, why would their best 3 players not participate in the IPL? It seems like the ideal preparation for the T20 world cup if you ask me. Link to comment
Guest Hiten. Posted June 10, 2009 Share Posted June 10, 2009 What's with the conspiracy theories ? Link to comment
Desi Cartman Posted June 10, 2009 Share Posted June 10, 2009 no.. you are the only one who thinks that Link to comment
Max_Cady Posted June 10, 2009 Share Posted June 10, 2009 Sounds crazy but hear me out ... Here are the reasons why I think Australia might not have wanted to advance into the latter stages of the tournament: * Ashes series is more important to them, especially Ponting - For Ponting, he knows that losing another Ashes series would almost certainly mark the end of his captaincy, and winning it in England would be one of the few things he has left to achieve. * A few extra weeks of preparation would certainly help them for the Ashes. * Clarke, Ponting & Johnson (arguably their 3 best players) pulled out of the IPL. Wouldnt that have been ideal preparation for a World T20 tournament? Furthermore, Ponting pulled out of the Pakistan series. * In the crucial stages of the last match, Brett Lee was given the ball ahead of Mitchell Johnson despite the fact that MJ is in career best form over the past year and Lee had barely played any cricket. Furthermore, Lee got smashed in his early overs worse than Johnson and has had problems with no-balls. * Ponting would not want to risk an injury to one of his key players and might have felt that a fast paced game like T20 would be a risk (OK, thats a poor point I know because one could also get injured at training) * Ponting, who has fought tooth and nail to keep Symonds in the side before (like for the WC2003), was seemingly very quick (along with Clarke and co.) to send him home. Say what you want about Symonds but the whole world knows just how good he is at this format. Obviously I cant prove this, but this is just a sneaking suspicion and I wonder if others have it too. good post now listen to this song [ame= - Ande ka Funda - Jodi No. 1[/ame] B->B->B-> Link to comment
graphic23 Posted June 10, 2009 Share Posted June 10, 2009 What's with the conspiracy theories ? Is This ** ? ++. BS reasoning. Link to comment
flamy Posted June 10, 2009 Share Posted June 10, 2009 I blame CricketGirl for starting the virus of conspiracy theories :hitler: Link to comment
satishg Posted June 10, 2009 Share Posted June 10, 2009 haha dude u do have some other work to do rite..u think too much on cricket man Link to comment
bharat297 Posted June 10, 2009 Author Share Posted June 10, 2009 ^ Hahaha ... yeah true ... I probably do. Its just a suspicion I have ... I dno just nothing about the way the Aussies prepared or played suggested the same desire to win that they had in South Africa. But ok fine, I guess thats just my opinion. Link to comment
ViruRulez Posted June 10, 2009 Share Posted June 10, 2009 :yawn2: when did ICF members start making conspiracy theoris like the Pakis .. dont act like a Paki at least.. Aussies suck and so they went out Link to comment
vipin Posted June 10, 2009 Share Posted June 10, 2009 Yes they did lose on purpose. They didnt want to meet india in the super 8s because they got intelligence information that the indians are going to make racist jokes on them and stab them to avenge the indian students in australia :agree: Thats the reason symonds fled even before the tourney started lest bhajji should do some more "teri maankey" spots on him. Link to comment
flamy Posted June 10, 2009 Share Posted June 10, 2009 Yes they did lose on purpose. They didnt want to meet india in the super 8s because they got intelligence information that the indians are going to make racist jokes on them and stab them to avenge the indian students in australia :agree: Thats the reason symonds fled even before the tourney started lest bhajji should do some more "teri maankey" spots on him. :--D:--D Link to comment
Guest Gunner Posted June 11, 2009 Share Posted June 11, 2009 By saying this you are discrediting the likes of Gayle' date=' A Fletcher, Mendis, Murali, Sanga and others. If you had watched Gayle take Bret Lee to the cleaners or Mendis bamboozle Aussies you wouldn't have started this OP. Make no mistake Aussies were clueless against Gayle and Mendis. Even if Aussies wanted or Bret Lee tried harder he wouldn't just be able to go for [b']27 runs in an over. Which bowler would like to be smacked for 27 runs in an over? Even Jadeja, Azhar, Cronje, Manoj Prabhakar, Salim Malik or Wasim Akram wouldn't have been able to conceed 27 runs in an over. Actually that has already happened. Uncle Sanath Vs Prabhakar '96. Ring a bell? Link to comment
CricketGirl Posted June 11, 2009 Share Posted June 11, 2009 I blame CricketGirl for starting the virus of conspiracy theories :hitler: I knew someone would bring that up grrr!! flamy on beat up list!!!B-> Link to comment
CricketGirl Posted June 11, 2009 Share Posted June 11, 2009 But seriously i dont think they lost on purpose but i do think they Ashes means more to them so they quite literally took thier eye off the t20 ball Now guys stop giving me grief about my paki match being fixed thread!! Link to comment
pan_walla Posted June 11, 2009 Share Posted June 11, 2009 Does anyone else think that Australia may have lost on purpose? Yeah only deluded Australian fans :winky: Link to comment
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