The Outsider Posted August 22, 2009 Posted August 22, 2009 Or will he be dropped before that?:giggle:
Pak_Forever Posted August 22, 2009 Posted August 22, 2009 I don't want him to avg. below 50. Was a really great player to watch when in form. He should rather retire before his average further slides down and goes below 50.
The Outsider Posted August 22, 2009 Author Posted August 22, 2009 I don't want him to avg. below 50. Was a really great player to watch when in form. He should rather retire before his average further slides down and goes below 50. Hussey, a great player!! :laugh:
Pak_Forever Posted August 22, 2009 Posted August 22, 2009 Hussey' date=' a great player!! :laugh:[/quote'] was a great player to watch!
The Outsider Posted August 22, 2009 Author Posted August 22, 2009 was a great player to watch! Yeah, he was Lara's judwa! Still :laugh:
Shehezaada Posted August 22, 2009 Posted August 22, 2009 I don't want him to avg. below 50. Was a really great player to watch when in form. He should rather retire before his average further slides down and goes below 50. really? i always though he was a very ugly player to watch...his shots aren't very good looking like most left handers are. His best shot is probably the pull shot off the spinner where he's very quick to latch onto it. Come to think of it, this new Aussie team is pretty ugly to watch. The opening combo of katich, hughes/watson are disgusting, hussy isn't great, and clarke isn't pleasing either. Only Haddin and Ponting play some good looking shots.
punjabi_khota Posted August 22, 2009 Posted August 22, 2009 ^Cmon man, Clarke may not be very good while playing on surfaces with something in them, but his strokes are pretty.
Mr. Wicket Posted August 22, 2009 Posted August 22, 2009 Hussey' date=' a great player!! :laugh:[/quote'] This may rival "Collingwood is a class act"! I don't think it'll happen though. After this series defeat, the standard reaction for this bunch of brain-dead selectors will be finding a scapegoat player and dropping him. Hussey's the obvious choice there. BTW Prof, life still busy as hell w/ work? Hope all's well with you - will try and drop you a line soon now that I'm back in the area.
Bradman99 Posted August 23, 2009 Posted August 23, 2009 He said Hussey WAS a great player, if any of you could argue with that, then that is just ridiculous.
Mr. Wicket Posted August 23, 2009 Posted August 23, 2009 Greatness is defined over a two-year purple patch?
Anakin Posted August 23, 2009 Posted August 23, 2009 Said it long time ago, great and legend are thrown around nowadays with gay abandon.
Desi Cartman Posted August 23, 2009 Posted August 23, 2009 He said Hussey WAS a great player' date= if any of you could argue with that, then that is just ridiculous. so was Kambli for a year or so ... :giggle:
Bradman99 Posted August 23, 2009 Posted August 23, 2009 A great player (as in at that time). He was. In this case great does not = been around for long time. But if keeping your average about 70 odd after 3 years doesn't show signs of a great player, then there aren't many going around. Ok he's not great anymore!
Mr. Wicket Posted August 23, 2009 Posted August 23, 2009 Greatness is very loosely defined. Some choose to use the term more liberally (a lot more, in many cases) than others. But really, if you go around tagging every player great who had that sort of purple patch you'd have a LOT of them. Would you call Shiv Chanderpaul a GREAT player? What about Mahela Jayawardene? Or Mohammed Yousuf? With the true GREAT players - there isn't a debate about "used to be great, isn't great any more." Those are players whose class and ability is NEVER in doubt (unless you deal with blindfolded idiots of the highest order). A Tendulkar, a Waugh, Gavaskar, Lara, Border - those men are GREAT batsmen. They could hit amazing peaks and sustain them for periods against the best attacks, and it wouldn't just be a big purple patch where the law of averages would soon catch up. Hussey is not and never will be in that league.
gaurav92 Posted August 23, 2009 Posted August 23, 2009 hussey is looking in horrible patch and i think its just those days where a cricketer needs support from other players and the board too otherwise it leads to his downfall aussies are doing a good job by keeping him in the team every time showing confidence in him even after an year of drought so my opinion is that hussey should himself say to the aussie cricket board that he is not looking good and he is not in his best touch so drop me only then they should think of dropping him
Lord Posted August 23, 2009 Posted August 23, 2009 Said it long time ago' date=' great and legend are thrown around nowadays with gay abandon.[/quote'] add the word 'genius' to it as well.the other day i was debating with patriot n sarchasm.both said Veeru is a genius due to some random stats.i said he is a legend n a great player but not a genius
Dhondy Posted August 23, 2009 Posted August 23, 2009 Take a look at these figures. Batsman A- Last 2 years- 22 Tests, 1331 runs @ 35.02. Career average 52.53 Batsman B- Last 2 years- 26 Tests, 1619 runs @ 38.54. Career average 51.87 Remarkably similar, isn't it? The first is Dravid, the second is Hussey. Explains why selectors are reluctant to drop proven performers even after fallow periods. Dravid wasn't close to being dropped, neither is Hussey. When selectors sit down and talk, they remind themselves that great players do not become also-rans in the space of 20 odd Tests, unless you are a Vengsarkar putting the boot into Sehwag, that is. Both Hussey and Dravid are however players who excelled because of their huge mental fortitude. They never had the talent of a Tendulkar or Ponting and had to rely on technique, and above all grit. It follows therefore that when the form dips, these type of players struggle, just as self doubts creep in. Recovery is not assured, as neither is getting any younger and they do not have the incandescent brilliance of a Lara, a Tendulkar or a Ponting to fall back upon.
Lord Posted August 23, 2009 Posted August 23, 2009 Take a look at these figures. Batsman A- Last 2 years- 22 Tests, 1331 runs @ 35.02. Career average 52.53 Batsman B- Last 2 years- 26 Tests, 1619 runs @ 38.54. Career average 51.87 Remarkably similar, isn't it? The first is Dravid, the second is Hussey. Explains why selectors are reluctant to drop proven performers even after fallow periods. Dravid wasn't close to being dropped, neither is Hussey. When selectors sit down and talk, they remind themselves that great players do not become also-rans in the space of 20 odd Tests, unless you are a Vengsarkar putting the boot into Sehwag, that is. Both Hussey and Dravid are however players who excelled because of their huge mental fortitude. They never had the talent of a Tendulkar or Ponting and had to rely on technique, and above all grit. It follows therefore that when the form dips, these type of players struggle, just as self doubts creep in. Recovery is not assured, as neither is getting any younger and they do not have the incandescent brilliance of a Lara, a Tendulkar or a Ponting to fall back upon. well u r comparing a 134 test career to a 41 test career,not great comparison IMO.wen selectors persisted with RD,they had reason coz he had maintained an average of 50+ over a 100 test career.hussey has no such previlege.he was superb in first 25 tests or so,therefore he got a little extended run.there is no reason to persist with him now(unless he plays a blinder n saves this test for Oz)
Dhondy Posted August 23, 2009 Posted August 23, 2009 Massive innings under pressure- the mark of a great player.
sm332 Posted August 23, 2009 Posted August 23, 2009 Massive innings under pressure- the mark of a great player. Good innings ... still think he will be one of the players facing the chap. out of their batsman everyone did ok and in some case overperformed (North, Katich, Watson). The chop comes on a highly overrated player ... in any case. I am more interested to see how the Assies deal with Ponting.
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