The Outsider Posted October 22, 2009 Posted October 22, 2009 I've wondered why pornography is legal in a lot of countries while prostitution is not. Just trying to get my head around to the logic behind it. Both involve taking money for sex, the difference being in pornography all people involved get paid and in prostitution one of the involved pays out. Would it be alright be a third party pays both involved in prostitution and tapes it on a film? A lot of reasons for prostitution being illegal apply to pornography as well such as the moral hurdle of money being involved in sex and the possibility of exploitation of minors. Pornography makers purportedly verify the age of people involved - the same can be done in prostitution without too much of a problem. Or is it that pornography is sold as "acting" rather than an actual act of sex which makes the difference? Does it make it alright for someone to "act" to have sex for money then? The only reason I could think of the distinction between the two which makes sense was the possibility of rape and safeguards against it. A prostitute would be much more susceptible to rape and bodily harm than pornographic stars. Any thoughts?
Guest Gunner Posted October 22, 2009 Posted October 22, 2009 I've wondered why pornography is legal in a lot of countries while prostitution is not. Just trying to get my head around to the logic behind it. Both involve taking money for sex, the difference being in pornography all people involved get paid and in prostitution one of the involved pays out. Would it be alright be a third party pays both involved in prostitution and tapes it on a film? A lot of reasons for prostitution being illegal apply to pornography as well such as the moral hurdle of money being involved in sex and the possibility of exploitation of minors. Pornography makers purportedly verify the age of people involved - the same can be done in prostitution without too much of a problem. Or is it that pornography is sold as "acting" rather than an actual act of sex which makes the difference? Does it make it alright for someone to "act" to have sex for money then? The only reason I could think of the distinction between the two which makes sense was the possibility of rape and safeguards against it. A prostitute would be much more susceptible to rape and bodily harm than pornographic stars. Any thoughts? There is no difference. Both should be fully legalised. Legalising prostitution actually reduces many of the ills such as trafficking, minors being forced to have sex etc. Netherlands is a very good example where the system has worked positively. In most european countries prostitution is legal and pimping is not. It take profiting by selling sex out of the equation.
Sachinism Posted October 22, 2009 Posted October 22, 2009 I feel prostitution should be made legal. That will hopefully mean people in the business are people who want to be there rather than people being forced to do it. On the contrary it could pimps seeing more business opportunities and kidnapping/trafficking more people.
Guest Gunner Posted October 22, 2009 Posted October 22, 2009 I feel prostitution should be made legal. That will hopefully mean people in the business are people who want to be there rather than people being forced to do it. On the contrary it could pimps seeing more business opportunities and kidnapping/trafficking more people. In most of Europe prostitution is legal but pimping is not.
Sachinism Posted October 22, 2009 Posted October 22, 2009 ^^ Who manages the prostitutes? They do it themselves?
The Outsider Posted October 22, 2009 Author Posted October 22, 2009 There is no difference. Both should be fully legalised. Legalising prostitution actually reduces many of the ills such as trafficking' date=' minors being forced to have sex etc. Netherlands is a very good example where the system has worked positively. In most european countries prostitution is legal and pimping is not. It take profiting by selling sex out of the equation.[/quote'] Yeah, I agree both should be legal. I do have misgivings about the safety of the person involved in prostitution vs. pornography though.
Guest Gunner Posted October 22, 2009 Posted October 22, 2009 ^^ Who manages the prostitutes? They do it themselves? Yep. Pro choice baby. :winky:
Malcolm Merlyn Posted October 22, 2009 Posted October 22, 2009 both should be legalised....it is a shame that people bring morality into this
nikred Posted October 22, 2009 Posted October 22, 2009 both should be legalised....it is a shame that people bring morality into this morality is overrated.
Malcolm Merlyn Posted October 22, 2009 Posted October 22, 2009 morality is overrated. specially by indians...........:hatsoff:
coffee_rules Posted October 22, 2009 Posted October 22, 2009 The main distinction between the two is the case about "rights". In case of pornography, the woman is consenting to the act and is aware of her "rights". So, there is not much room for exploitation. If somebody has forced it, she can go to the police and she will have proof. But in case of prostitution, the government has no control over the protection of "rights". We can't say if the woman/man is consenting and doing it for livelihood, or she has been forced to do it. The government will have no control how to stop the exploitation as there is no proof to exploitation, other than banning it. So, Which of the two have been involved in, that brought out this dilemma?
nikred Posted October 22, 2009 Posted October 22, 2009 specially by indians...........:hatsoff: For everything we play the "its against our culture and traditions" card.
ViruRulez Posted October 22, 2009 Posted October 22, 2009 both should be legalized in almost all countries over the world and it would help a lot of sexual crimes... but at the same time utmost care should be taken so that exploitation or trafficking is not done in the name of pornography or prostitution.. if any of these two happens then it would be even worse results.. and there should be proper medical examination regularly of the pronstars and prostitutes so that AIDS/HIV or STD etc. are not spread in society But for India I would say it would still take sometime till people get over the taboo. It is not as if these does not happen in India. Last year midday reported that during elections even politicians hire prostitutes to have sex and to get political favors. It was written in that article that the demand for high class prostitutes goes up at that time. But frankly speaking everybody in India knows about it but it is seen as a taboo to even acknowledge it. Every big Indian city has red light areas but people would rather not speak about it and trafficking and child sex etc. goes on there. It is better that everything is legalized and proper control is made so that it helps society instead of harming it.
ViruRulez Posted October 22, 2009 Posted October 22, 2009 For everything we play the "its against our culture and traditions" card. Frankly speaking I dont know what the feck the conservatives speak about the "culture" thing. There is no proper definition of culture because we are a mixed culture itself. Yes it should not be over the limit and everything should have restrictions but in the right manner and not simply in the "culture and traditions" card.
Malcolm Merlyn Posted October 22, 2009 Posted October 22, 2009 both should be legalized in almost all countries over the world and it would help a lot of sexual crimes... but at the same time utmost care should be taken so that exploitation or trafficking is not done in the name of pornography or prostitution.. if any of these two happens then it would be even worse results.. and there should be proper medical examination regularly of the pronstars and prostitutes so that AIDS/HIV or STD etc. are not spread in society But for India I would say it would still take sometime till people get over the taboo. It is not as if these does not happen in India. Last year midday reported that during elections even politicians hire prostitutes to have sex and to get political favors. It was written in that article that the demand for high class prostitutes goes up at that time. But frankly speaking everybody in India knows about it but it is seen as a taboo to even acknowledge it. Every big Indian city has red light areas but people would rather not speak about it and trafficking and child sex etc. goes on there. It is better that everything is legalized and proper control is made so that it helps society instead of harming it. yes the way sexual crimes are increasing in delhi itz an alarm for the whole country
Malcolm Merlyn Posted October 22, 2009 Posted October 22, 2009 Frankly speaking I dont know what the feck the conservatives speak about the "culture" thing. There is no proper definition of culture because we are a mixed culture itself. Yes it should not be over the limit and everything should have restrictions but in the right manner and not simply in the "culture and traditions" card. when our politicians dont have a valid reason to oppose a thing they say it is againist our culture
Guest Gunner Posted October 22, 2009 Posted October 22, 2009 The main distinction between the two is the case about "rights". In case of pornography, the woman is consenting to the act and is aware of her "rights". So, there is not much room for exploitation. If somebody has forced it, she can go to the police and she will have proof. But in case of prostitution, the government has no control over the protection of "rights". We can't say if the woman/man is consenting and doing it for livelihood, or she has been forced to do it. The government will have no control how to stop the exploitation as there is no proof to exploitation, other than banning it. So, Which of the two have been involved in, that brought out this dilemma? This is why I gave the dutch example. They have been very good at making sure that the rights of the women are not exploited. You can read about how they have managed this during the last few years. They have made pimping a punishable offence, so if someone is caught pimping he/she goes to prison.
Sachinism Posted October 22, 2009 Posted October 22, 2009 Yep. Pro choice baby. :winky: The pimps were their protection. But I guess they can go to the police now, but it wouldn't be the same. I feel people would still look down on them and possibly the police wouldn't be as bothered as they would in other cases.
Guest Gunner Posted October 22, 2009 Posted October 22, 2009 The pimps were their protection. But I guess they can go to the police now' date= but it wouldn't be the same. I feel people would still look down on them and possibly the police wouldn't be as bothered as they would in other cases. 1) The pimps were the problem. They abused these women beyond words. 2) The Police in Netherlands is quite pro-active. 3) They make a lot more money than the people who look "down" upon them. 4) The law is concerned and does take action. Did you read about the case in one of the scandinavian countries (Norway or Finland) where a prostitute was awarded compensation from a client who abused her?
Malcolm Merlyn Posted October 22, 2009 Posted October 22, 2009 1) The pimps were the problem. They abused these women beyond words. 2) The Police in Netherlands is quite pro-active. 3) They make a lot more money than the people who look "down" upon them. 4) The law is concerned and does take action. Did you read about the case in one of the scandinavian countries (Norway or Finland) where a prostitute was awarded compensation from a client who abused her? G do u live in netherlands?
Recommended Posts