achilles Posted February 22, 2010 Posted February 22, 2010 On second thoughts, I think Rohit should be retained and Suresh should compete for a slot with Virat Kohli.
ViruRulez Posted February 22, 2010 Posted February 22, 2010 I wonder why no one is including R P Singh in the probable 20?!The guy may be inconsistent' date=' like our other pacers, but when he is good he is really good. I would pick him over Sreesanth and PK.[/quote'] R P Singh is a consistent failure in Indian conditions.. he is useless until the pitch assists .. if the WC was in Aus then yes he might have in the probables but he is quite crap in flat pitches .. thats why most people are not selecting him I suppose But as I said there is still time left and we need to check the current form especially of bowlers to decide on the final pool of bowlers
Pak_Forever Posted February 22, 2010 Posted February 22, 2010 x 20 :haha: tell lil' master to not to swim in the middle as it looks deep there.
ViruRulez Posted February 22, 2010 Posted February 22, 2010 :haha: tell lil' master to not to swim in the middle as it looks deep there. dont worry Master will survive and flourish in all conditions .. it is the chokers who need to worry :giggle:
dial_100 Posted February 22, 2010 Posted February 22, 2010 here is mine: Batsmen: SRT VS GG UV Raina Kohli Pandey WK-Batsmen: MSD© KKD Allrounders: Bhajji Irfan Yusuf Spinners: Mishra Ashwin Jadeja Nayar Ganapathy Pacers Zak Nehra PK
Texan Posted February 23, 2010 Posted February 23, 2010 I wonder why no one is including R P Singh in the probable 20?!The guy may be inconsistent' date=' like our other pacers, but when he is good he is really good. I would pick him over Sreesanth and PK.[/quote'] Who has Sreesanth anyway RP is equally inconsistent as Sree. You can never predict which RP will wake up on a given day. Even within the UP team, PK and B Kumar outbowled him this season.
Texan Posted February 23, 2010 Posted February 23, 2010 here is mine: Batsmen: SRT VS GG UV Raina Kohli Pandey WK-Batsmen: MSD© KKD Allrounders: Bhajji Irfan Yusuf Spinners: Mishra Ashwin Jadeja Nayar Ganapathy Pacers Zak Nehra PK
achilles Posted February 23, 2010 Posted February 23, 2010 Who has Sreesanth anyway I've picked him. He was the reason we got to the WT20 finals in 2007 in the first place ! :hatsoff:
Feed Posted February 23, 2010 Posted February 23, 2010 Bowling at the ‘death’ a major area of concern More... Bowling at the ‘death’ a major area of concern S. Dinakar Thrills apart, the performance at Jaipur has left the Indian supporters a worried lot Some ordinary bowling saw Parnell and Steyn put on 65 for the ninth wicket They were provided the width and the length to free their arms LONE BRIGHT SPOT: While the Indian pacemen struggled for length, Ravindra Jadeja (right) bowled with control and choked the flow of runs in the middle overs. Jaipur: A last-gasp win at the Sawai Man Singh Stadium notwithstanding, the Indians have serious work ahead of World Cup 2011. On a dramatic Sunday here, the Indians almost snatched defeat from the jaws of victory. It made wonderful viewing but left the Indian supporters a worried lot. Bowling at the ‘death’ has been a major area of concern for the host. “With so many runs remaining to be scored by the South African tail, our leading bowlers should have done better,” skipper Mahendra Singh Dhoni admitted. Indeed, some ordinary bowling by S. Sreesanth and Aashish Nehra was dumped into the far corners of the ground by Wayne Parnell and Dale Steyn during their blazing 65-run ninth-wicket stand. Where were the swinging toe-crushers? Yorkers of pace and precision are invaluable against the lower-order batsmen but Sreesanth and Nehra were largely off target. In other words, Parnell and Steyn were provided the width and the length to free their arms. Sehwag has sore back While the mandatory change of the ball after the 34th over has hurt reverse swing bowling in particular — the harder ball also travels faster off the bat — control, old-fashioned block-hole bowling and variations in speed can still do the damage. Perhaps, the Indians missed the under-rated off-spin of Virender Sehwag towards the end. The influential cricketer has a sore back and could be a doubtful starter for the second ODI at Gwalior on Wednesday. The Indian pacemen, as Dhoni pointed out, went for runs with the new ball as well. On the sub-continental tracks, it is vital to bowl in the right areas, make the most of the conditions. A limited bowler Praveen Kumar did vary his speed and length in the final over, but, then, he is a limited bowler. His lack of pace will always be held against him. The short-pitched ball, if employed judiciously, can be a wicket-taking delivery even on Indian tracks. Jacques Kallis and Charl Langeveldt, essentially swing bowlers, showed that the short-pitched ball can either set up a dismissal or fetch wickets. India missed the injured Zaheer Khan’s craft and heart. Left-arm spinner Ravindra Jadeja’s bowling was a positive for India though. He spun the ball away from the right-hander and delivered a deceptive arm-ball. The lad bowled with control and has a future. He choked the flow of runs in the middle overs and foxed and consumed Abraham de Villiers, a fine player of spin, with a telling arm-ball. Dhoni, perhaps, could retain at least a couple of overs from a frontline spinner at the death. Instead, part-timer Suresh Raina bowled in the end overs and this was a phase where Steyn and Parnell began a dramatic revival. Against a top side such as South Africa, India cannot afford to take its foot off the pedal. Another area of worry for India was the failure of the frontline batsmen to convert starts. “None of our batsmen went on to a bigger score,” said Dhoni. In a total of 298, Suresh Raina’s 58 was the highest contribution. Gracious in defeat The South Africans, on their part, were gracious in defeat. Skipper Kallis chose not to focus on Sachin Tendulkar’s controversial save on the fine-leg fence in the final over. The batsmen ran three but there were doubts as to whether Langveldt’s pull was actually a boundary. “It’s the umpire’s call,” said Kallis. The extra run could have enabled South Africa tie the match. Kallis, instead, spoke about the freakish boundary when Nehra edged Langveldt onto his stumps but the ball, without disturbing the bails, darted to the fence. “That came back to haunt us,” he said. Apart from the ageless Tendulkar’s sprawling effort, diving stops from Dinesh Karthik and substitute Abhishek Nayar might have saved India’s day. Left-arm paceman Parnell’s bowling is a work-in-progress but Kallis was convinced that the young South African could develop into an all-rounder. The South Africans erred with their selection though. The in-form Hashim Amla, who mixes resilience with flair, should have walked into the eleven. Had Kallis, stroking the ball majestically, found specialist support at the other end, the South Africans might have clinched the opener. And the visitors should have preferred left-arm spinner van der Merwe over the unimpressive Johan Botha. The focus now shifts to Gwalior. Is another thriller on the cards?
virufan Posted February 23, 2010 Posted February 23, 2010 Why is Sachin in that list lol Gambhir Veeru Yuvi Raina Dhoni Ganapathy/Nayar Yusuf Irfan R Jadeja Bhajji Zak Fielding should be tack sharp. I watched a few overs of the Duleep match where Yousouf hit a double century. Ganapathy though he took 5 wickets was not of international class. He was operating at 120-125 KMPH and still getting wickets. These domestic (useless) batsmen were getting out to him and other slower bowlers.
virufan Posted February 23, 2010 Posted February 23, 2010 Preparation for WC 2011; Bowlers wanted Considering that our bowlers are not upto the mark when they face top teams, we need to plan ahead for the WC 2011. The pool of available bowlers that India can start playing in ODIs : Vinay kumar Tyagi Mithun Ishant U-19 fast bowlers like Saurabh Netrawalkar etc IPL bowlers like Gony, Dinda etc These players should be given opportunity in ODIs in rotation basis and zero in on top 5 bowlers before the WC. Pls add more names to the above list and give your opinions.
Texan Posted February 24, 2010 Posted February 24, 2010 I watched a few overs of the Duleep match where Yousouf hit a double century. Ganapathy though he took 5 wickets was not of international class. He was operating at 120-125 KMPH and still getting wickets. These domestic (useless) batsmen were getting out to him and other slower bowlers. I watched the highlights too and it seemed like West Zone batsmen (most notably Yusuf) were trying their best to throw their wickets away to ordinary bowling, but the fielders wouldn't allow them to get out! :cantstop:
Lord Posted February 24, 2010 Author Posted February 24, 2010 Why is Sachin in that list lol Gambhir Veeru Yuvi Raina Dhoni Ganapathy/Nayar Yusuf Irfan R Jadeja Bhajji Zak Fielding should be tack sharp. see the title
Lord Posted February 24, 2010 Author Posted February 24, 2010 I watched a few overs of the Duleep match where Yousouf hit a double century. Ganapathy though he took 5 wickets was not of international class. He was operating at 120-125 KMPH and still getting wickets. These domestic (useless) batsmen were getting out to him and other slower bowlers. thats why i've put him in allrounders list n bowlers.he can bat well.apart from Zak n Bhajji,none of our bowlers r reliable with the ball.so why not pick bowlers who can bat?
sunanth Posted March 4, 2010 Posted March 4, 2010 I see a good fast bowling future for jaydev unadkat.he was there in the under 19 world cup team.While netravalkar and sandeep sharma was taking advantage of the overcast and swinging conditions with speeds of 120 - 125 kph,jaydev was trying to bounce the batsmen out at around 125 - 140 kmph(fastest being 139 kmph).he is only 18 and needs attention...
koksmayu Posted March 4, 2010 Posted March 4, 2010 sachin sehwag gambhir yuvraj kohli dhoni raina jadeja harbhajan zaheer pravin
hari504504 Posted March 5, 2010 Posted March 5, 2010 I see a good fast bowling future for jaydev unadkat.he was there in the under 19 world cup team.While netravalkar and sandeep sharma was taking advantage of the overcast and swinging conditions with speeds of 120 - 125 kph' date='jaydev was trying to bounce the batsmen out at around 125 - 140 kmph(fastest being 139 kmph).he is only 18 and needs attention...[/quote'] That shows how much brain the chump has..and the pak U-19 batsmen showed him where he belongs..... guess what will happen if he takes this attitude of 'bouncing batsmen out' with 135kmph thunderbolts into international cricket ? (not to mention over-the-top sreesanth aggression amidst all that pie chucking)... one thing for sure is that there'll be a lot of cricket balls lost in the crowd... SAndeep sharma on the other hand can become an extremely useful swing bowler...even now he has the maturity to bowl within his limits annd focus on swing People ought to play to their strengths... so far no out and out fast bowlers in the horizon...
sunanth Posted March 10, 2010 Posted March 10, 2010 That shows how much brain the chump has..and the pak U-19 batsmen showed him where he belongs..... guess what will happen if he takes this attitude of 'bouncing batsmen out' with 135kmph thunderbolts into international cricket ? (not to mention over-the-top sreesanth aggression amidst all that pie chucking)... one thing for sure is that there'll be a lot of cricket balls lost in the crowd... SAndeep sharma on the other hand can become an extremely useful swing bowler...even now he has the maturity to bowl within his limits annd focus on swing People ought to play to their strengths... so far no out and out fast bowlers in the horizon... But then an 18 year old could easily earn around 10+ kmph with the muscle growth and he grows taller(he is already tall) which gives him more bounce out of the pitch.The thing imeant is that india has great swing bowlers(rp,irfan...),but not yet produced a genuine fast bowler who could be a threat to the batsmen in non swinging conditions.We could at least grow him up as a fast bowler by keeping him a safe distance of the mrf PACE foundation.
virufan Posted March 11, 2010 Posted March 11, 2010 But then an 18 year old could easily earn around 10+ kmph with the muscle growth and he grows taller(he is already tall) which gives him more bounce out of the pitch.The thing imeant is that india has great swing bowlers(rp' date='irfan...),but not yet produced a genuine fast bowler who could be a threat to the batsmen in non swinging conditions.We could at least grow him up as a fast bowler by keeping him a safe distance of the mrf PACE foundation.[/quote'] Why we need to keep him a safe distance from MRF? Is MRF no good? :hmmmm2:
sunanth Posted March 12, 2010 Posted March 12, 2010 Why we need to keep him a safe distance from MRF? Is MRF no good? :hmmmm2: Everyone who seem to bowl faster than others are always picked to the mrf and made them so social to be called a military medium pace......i think they make these players practice with mrf balls.....
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